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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 06 2013 05:35 GMT
#2721
i still think it's near impossible to play 50-60 meaningful games of sc2 per day
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 06 2013 05:35 GMT
#2722
On January 06 2013 14:33 decado90 wrote:
Well for all the people that say SC2 is just coinflips and no skill, this is good proof that hardwork and dedication pays off. I'd bet serious cash that no one on EG-TL even comes close to the volume of practice that Flash does.

Hell, Naniwa, who lives in Korea, said that when doctors wouldn't let Flash play BW and told him to rest he played 60 games of SC2 a day as "downtime." And he was also known in BW to have 16+ hour days.

Compare that to what a lot of foreigners say about "too much practice and you get 'burned out'" and a lot of the self entitled Starcraft players today that are used to everything being handed to them on a silver platter, and it's no wonder Flash dominated.

You think Stephano would have survived in BW? Grinding 12+ hours a day on B team, threatened to be cut if he had any stretch of bad play for a shot at the A team?

I'm not quite following you. What are you trying to say?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
January 06 2013 05:36 GMT
#2723
On January 06 2013 14:33 Mask DeMasque wrote:
1pt lineup appearance
2pt x 4wins
1pt for 3game win streak
1pt for team win
11pts for Flash... and 8 for KT if you had them. Serious return on investment.


They changed scoring for AK round I'm pretty sure no win streaks only win ending streaks and the Team win points dropped by a bit.

IIRC the totals would be

10pts for Flash and 6 Points for KT
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 06 2013 05:36 GMT
#2724
On January 06 2013 14:33 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:29 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:27 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:25 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:18 Aerisky wrote:
Flash is just... wow lol.

No words, no excuses for that loss. Pretty sure stephano even couldn't do anything about it. Just ridicuous lol.

Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


you're right. he isn't anywhere near. he's way too far above him

you will eat your words

as always

I like Stephano.

I dont like how people think Stephano is better than zergs such as Leenock, ViOlet, DRG and Life.

you know how much stephano trained in is whole career?

it equals maybe 3 month training of those you mentioned

just let him sit one month in korea and see

Oh god, are there honestly still people who believe that nonsense?
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 05:39:48
January 06 2013 05:36 GMT
#2725
On January 06 2013 14:25 MosART wrote:
50-60 games..maybe 30 games on cheesing, kill you opponent in 10min or less. Flash did started out as a great cheeser.

An average game is about 18 game minutes (source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240774) which is about 13 real minutes. 60 games * 13 minutes = 13 hours, which isn't unreasonable for a BW pro. And flash probably wins faster in practice.

EDIT: Using MLG game length (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=304522), each game is about 13 minutes (9:30 real time) making 60 games per day a pretty low estimate.
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
January 06 2013 05:37 GMT
#2726
On January 06 2013 14:33 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:33 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:29 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:27 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:25 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:18 Aerisky wrote:
Flash is just... wow lol.

No words, no excuses for that loss. Pretty sure stephano even couldn't do anything about it. Just ridicuous lol.

Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


you're right. he isn't anywhere near. he's way too far above him

you will eat your words

as always

I like Stephano.

I dont like how people think Stephano is better than zergs such as Leenock, ViOlet, DRG and Life.

you know how much stephano trained in is whole carrier?

it equals maybe 3 month training of those you mentioned

just let him sit one month in korea and see


ah yes, the good ol' stephano is so talented he only has trained for 3 months bullshit

plus he nearly only played ladder games
nothing against the regime that koreans do with coaches, specific training of certain situations and so on
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 06 2013 05:37 GMT
#2727
On January 06 2013 14:36 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:25 MosART wrote:
50-60 games..maybe 30 games on cheesing, kill you opponent in 10min or less. Flash did started out as a great cheeser.

An average game is about 18 game minutes (source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240774) which is about 13 real minutes. 60 games * 13 minutes = 13 hours, which isn't unreasonable for a BW pro. And flash probably wins faster in practice.


Also it could have been games against the AI or partner to get a build 100%.
The curse is real
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 05:37 GMT
#2728
On January 06 2013 14:28 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:25 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:18 Aerisky wrote:
Flash is just... wow lol.

No words, no excuses for that loss. Pretty sure stephano even couldn't do anything about it. Just ridicuous lol.

Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


Revival wouldn't have lost to xlord

I'm sorry, but this logic is just absolute trash.

Xlord lost to Symbol who is better than Revival who lost to Snute who's lost to a lot of people.

See the problem?


okay, Revival is better than Stephano in general, as shown by him killing FXO's 3 best players in IPTL this week.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2729
On January 06 2013 14:35 opterown wrote:
i still think it's near impossible to play 50-60 meaningful games of sc2 per day

Define 'meaningful', he seems to be benefiting from it.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2730
On January 06 2013 14:34 Belha wrote:
The EG-TL Coach performance was really poor this match too.

Revival on ohana on KotH style?
Your best P handicaped on Antiga?
JYP as the last hope?



lol @ "handicaped"

Just like Zerg is so "handicapped" vs Terran on Antiga.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=maps&id=500&part=games&matchup=TvP&league=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2013&to_month=1&to_day=5&action=Update


Damn, Terran sub 50% record vs Protoss on Antiga in 2012? Mighty handicap indeed.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2731
That series honestly felt closer then the score let on, with how close the games between taeja and revival were.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2732
So Flash was already better than everyone and he plays 50-60 games a day...




So that's why everyone is going over to LoL :p
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2733
On January 06 2013 14:36 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:25 MosART wrote:
50-60 games..maybe 30 games on cheesing, kill you opponent in 10min or less. Flash did started out as a great cheeser.

An average game is about 18 game minutes (source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240774) which is about 13 real minutes. 60 games * 13 minutes = 13 hours, which isn't unreasonable for a BW pro. And flash probably wins faster in practice.

That data is from July 2011
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2734
On January 06 2013 14:36 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:33 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:29 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:27 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:25 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:18 Aerisky wrote:
Flash is just... wow lol.

No words, no excuses for that loss. Pretty sure stephano even couldn't do anything about it. Just ridicuous lol.

Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


you're right. he isn't anywhere near. he's way too far above him

you will eat your words

as always

I like Stephano.

I dont like how people think Stephano is better than zergs such as Leenock, ViOlet, DRG and Life.

you know how much stephano trained in is whole career?

it equals maybe 3 month training of those you mentioned

just let him sit one month in korea and see

Oh god, are there honestly still people who believe that nonsense?

just follow his accounts on EU and NA

he has no smurfs and plays every single game on them
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2735
On January 06 2013 14:37 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:33 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:33 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:29 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:27 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:25 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
[quote]
Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


you're right. he isn't anywhere near. he's way too far above him

you will eat your words

as always

I like Stephano.

I dont like how people think Stephano is better than zergs such as Leenock, ViOlet, DRG and Life.

you know how much stephano trained in is whole carrier?

it equals maybe 3 month training of those you mentioned

just let him sit one month in korea and see


ah yes, the good ol' stephano is so talented he only has trained for 3 months bullshit

plus he nearly only played ladder games
nothing against the regime that koreans do with coaches, specific training of certain situations and so on


Ah. That's because he can only have one account. Right?
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2736
FLASH ALL KILL, THE GODS HAVE SPOKEN
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 06 2013 05:38 GMT
#2737
On January 06 2013 14:36 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:25 MosART wrote:
50-60 games..maybe 30 games on cheesing, kill you opponent in 10min or less. Flash did started out as a great cheeser.

An average game is about 18 game minutes (source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240774) which is about 13 real minutes. 60 games * 13 minutes = 13 hours, which isn't unreasonable for a BW pro. And flash probably wins faster in practice.

even still you still need to search for games, eat, gym, bathroom, etc. and the KR ladder isn't always teeming with games, especially high GM from about morning to early afternoon. unless the games are 100% inhouse, it's really really hard to pull off.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 06 2013 05:39 GMT
#2738
On January 06 2013 14:33 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:33 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:29 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:27 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:25 rysecake wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:24 Anta wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:20 Lillpapps wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:19 TommyP wrote:
On January 06 2013 14:18 Aerisky wrote:
Flash is just... wow lol.

No words, no excuses for that loss. Pretty sure stephano even couldn't do anything about it. Just ridicuous lol.

Revival is better than Stephano anyway.

are you serious?


I have to agree Revival is better, he just choked badly today.

lol Revival isn't anywhere near Stephano.


you're right. he isn't anywhere near. he's way too far above him

you will eat your words

as always

I like Stephano.

I dont like how people think Stephano is better than zergs such as Leenock, ViOlet, DRG and Life.

you know how much stephano trained in is whole carrier?

it equals maybe 3 month training of those you mentioned

just let him sit one month in korea and see


ah yes, the good ol' stephano is so talented he only has trained for 3 months bullshit


I really can`t stand this kind of shit TT
those fanboys are so sad.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 06 2013 05:39 GMT
#2739
On January 06 2013 14:38 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 14:35 opterown wrote:
i still think it's near impossible to play 50-60 meaningful games of sc2 per day

Define 'meaningful', he seems to be benefiting from it.

If it takes 20 minutes to play a game and find another one, then at 50 games thats 16hours and 40 minutes, at 60 games thats 20 hours. There simply isn't enough time in the day to play that many games.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
January 06 2013 05:40 GMT
#2740
I guess that answers the question of why the KeSPA teams like to lead with their Ace.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
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