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This should be unstoppable. But this is Leenock, so anything is possible.
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On December 17 2012 19:20 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 19:19 bittman wrote:On December 17 2012 19:18 Caihead wrote:
what actually happened? was 5 infestors that big a difference in army advantage? Had a roach lead for most of the game too I thought EDIT: HEY WOLF The roach lead was really small even after DRG defended his third coming back to his own base with the nydus, so I don't get it. I guess Leenock just banked a shittone of resources where as DRG spent it all on mutas. Else there's no way a 3 base zerg is out macroed by a 2 base zerg.
DRG didn't get out macro'ed. Leenock just hit because he knew he was on a clock (he bought queens with his army).
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United States97276 Posts
Leenock beat violet in this situation at ipl5 and violet even brought his drones
oh nvm didnt notice it was the baneling build that hyun did
hes fucked
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On December 17 2012 19:21 bittman wrote:
10 pool from DRG.
Haven't seen Leenock die to one of these yet
The baneling followup 10 pool is REALLY powerful if you go hatch first, should be a loss for Leenock.
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Leenock had infestors,drg had none.
End of story 4 2012
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1 base banelings, hmm. I think Leenock might die.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Poll: Recommend Leenock vs. DongRaeGu Game 2?✗ (5) 50% ✓ (4) 40% ~ (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs. DongRaeGu Game 2? (Vote): ✓
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opterown
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DRG goes for a ten pool with gas (banelings) while Leenock goes for hatch first. Leenock goes for gas before pool, and just dies to the push.
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DRG is not impressed haha.
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lmao drg. dgaf about game 1
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On December 17 2012 19:23 Lazzi wrote:
DRG is a cyborg.
Hahaha
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On December 17 2012 19:23 Riskr wrote:
Leenock had infestors,drg had none.
End of story 4 2012
Leenock was also ahead on upgrades.
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drg not impressed meme coming soon
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Pretty much the biggest build order win you can get in ZvZ.
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On December 17 2012 19:19 WhiteSatin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 19:14 Fubi wrote:On December 17 2012 19:09 WhiteSatin wrote:On December 17 2012 19:03 Fubi wrote:On December 17 2012 18:47 WhiteSatin wrote:On December 17 2012 18:42 Weavel wrote:
Sloppy but entertaining game. I am always amused when people say it. "Sloppy play" rotfl what are you talking about ? You probably have no idea the amount of speed, micro/macro required to play at that level. That was overall a great game. When you see those "sloppy-looking" games by Gumiho, for instance, that's because his multi tasking is insane. Comments like yours are purely based on ignorance and I bet you are not a high master's (or even just regular master) player. I wish b.net profiles were linked to TL accounts so people would think twice about posting their low-level knowledge comments about the game. "A gold player thinks some of the best players in the world are playing sloppily" hmmm, not quite. Why do people always use arguments like these? We have the right to criticize them because they are putting themselves up on the spot by being professional players. If a professional singer goes off pitch or a professional dancer trips during a live performance, we as the audience have the right to criticize them even though 99% of us will be 100 times worst at singing/dancing. Fact of the matter is, Hero's control WAS sloppy; look at how many stalkers he lost in that first aggression. MVP's micro was definitely better than Hero's both games, he just didn't have the best decisions/unit comp. I don't think you quite got the meaning of what I said. What you are mentioning is very different from what I complained about. Obviously if a professional singer goes off pitch you can say they messed up much more easily than judging a very complex game like SC2. As I said in my comments "most of the times" (which is not always, but a lot of them) the "sloppy play" comments are plain wrong. For instance, in the first game beteween MVP and HerO there was nothing that could have made the game possibly be labeled as "sloppy", yet there was a comment about it right away. When you go around the LR threads, if you know the game at least a masters level, you will notice that these overly-popular sloppy comments are plain wrong 90% of the times - so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so. I'm not saying they're correct calling them sloppy, I'm just saying your argument for saying so is wrong as well; just cuz we're not as good as a professional at doing what they do, it doesn't mean we as audience don't have the rights to criticize. Now, the argument that Hero missed a few micros cuz he was multitasking like crazy in game 1, yea that I agree. Yes I understand what you are saying but it seems like you are still missing the point. I never said that you, the audience, don't have the rights to criticize... From the previous post: " so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so " If you still do not realize my point I am not sure what to tell you.
Most audience don't need the knowledge/tools, they criticize via relativity. We can call a singer bad because we've heard much better, we call a NBA player bad for missing free throws because relatively speaking, most usually get it in. In the same case here, we call SC2 plays sloppy because we've seen players pull off a much crispier micro in some of the same situations.
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Austria24422 Posts
Never being able to watch my korean starcraft is slowly frustrating me.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
Proleague liquibets for SKT T1 vs Team 8 is about to close. HURRY UP AND GO VOTE!
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Korean commentators seem to have a lot of fun.
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On December 17 2012 19:24 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 19:19 WhiteSatin wrote:On December 17 2012 19:14 Fubi wrote:On December 17 2012 19:09 WhiteSatin wrote:On December 17 2012 19:03 Fubi wrote:On December 17 2012 18:47 WhiteSatin wrote:On December 17 2012 18:42 Weavel wrote:
Sloppy but entertaining game. I am always amused when people say it. "Sloppy play" rotfl what are you talking about ? You probably have no idea the amount of speed, micro/macro required to play at that level. That was overall a great game. When you see those "sloppy-looking" games by Gumiho, for instance, that's because his multi tasking is insane. Comments like yours are purely based on ignorance and I bet you are not a high master's (or even just regular master) player. I wish b.net profiles were linked to TL accounts so people would think twice about posting their low-level knowledge comments about the game. "A gold player thinks some of the best players in the world are playing sloppily" hmmm, not quite. Why do people always use arguments like these? We have the right to criticize them because they are putting themselves up on the spot by being professional players. If a professional singer goes off pitch or a professional dancer trips during a live performance, we as the audience have the right to criticize them even though 99% of us will be 100 times worst at singing/dancing. Fact of the matter is, Hero's control WAS sloppy; look at how many stalkers he lost in that first aggression. MVP's micro was definitely better than Hero's both games, he just didn't have the best decisions/unit comp. I don't think you quite got the meaning of what I said. What you are mentioning is very different from what I complained about. Obviously if a professional singer goes off pitch you can say they messed up much more easily than judging a very complex game like SC2. As I said in my comments "most of the times" (which is not always, but a lot of them) the "sloppy play" comments are plain wrong. For instance, in the first game beteween MVP and HerO there was nothing that could have made the game possibly be labeled as "sloppy", yet there was a comment about it right away. When you go around the LR threads, if you know the game at least a masters level, you will notice that these overly-popular sloppy comments are plain wrong 90% of the times - so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so. I'm not saying they're correct calling them sloppy, I'm just saying your argument for saying so is wrong as well; just cuz we're not as good as a professional at doing what they do, it doesn't mean we as audience don't have the rights to criticize. Now, the argument that Hero missed a few micros cuz he was multitasking like crazy in game 1, yea that I agree. Yes I understand what you are saying but it seems like you are still missing the point. I never said that you, the audience, don't have the rights to criticize... From the previous post: " so my complain was not referred to the fact that people can't criticize pro players plays or decisions but rather that a lot of them lack the tools and the understanding to realize when to do so " If you still do not realize my point I am not sure what to tell you. Most audience don't need the knowledge/tools, they criticize via relativity. We can call a singer bad because we've heard much better, we call a NBA player bad for missing free throws because relatively speaking, most usually get it in. In the same case here, we call SC2 plays sloppy because we've seen players pull off a much crispier micro in some of the same situations.
So you are basically confirming that a lot of times people make silly and useless comments just as I said in my initial post.
For something like SC2, it is especially true due the complex nature of the game.
Thanks for our interaction.
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