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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:42:18
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#201
On December 12 2012 18:39 Schelim wrote:
huh

isn't this loser's choice?


Nope. Code A Bo3 has always been preset maps from GOM.

Yonghwa actually commented this in his interview yesterday when they asked him about his chances against Life. He said a lot of it will come down to which maps they will play.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#202
On December 12 2012 18:39 Schelim wrote:
huh

isn't this loser's choice?

not in code A, no
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#203
On December 12 2012 18:38 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:35 silent_owl wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Noblesse is kind of like a worse (compared to contemporary standards) modern day sC.


Happy birthday, man. Anyway, yeah. Although I miss sC during his heyday.

Thanks.

And yeah, it makes me sadface. sC was a cool stylistic player and we need some more stylistic players in SC2 right now.


It's ok we have cool stylistic players like Gumiho. His style: owning your entire face.

And. . .and Jjakji. Right?

*Sniffles*
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#204
Sigh. Anyone know of a way to watch this if you dont have a ticket? Free stream is down.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:42:26
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#205
On December 12 2012 18:38 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:32 Maloreon wrote:
TvZ since patch has been really good I honestly have no idea how anyone can complain. The games have been very back and forth in pretty much every tournament since patch... dozens of games and I can hardly recall one boring TvZ.


Yes. Even with the reduce range, zergs can still get good fungals off. The difference is that the tanks can kill the infestors much easier and not let them get away. One of the issues with TvZ pre patch was that zergs could fungal and trade evenly in the first fight. But when the next marine/tank army comes, they are facing twice the amount of infestors and it just snowballs.


Yup, I'm wondering if it will stay this way as Zergs get better Infestor control though (relative to the patches changes, but also in general as Infestor control has increased almost in a linear fashion over the last year at the top level). Which is why I'm all for the unit getting nerfed more and other stuff getting better in HotS (I play Zerg btw). I think this will be like Infestors from a year ago, Zerg pros will likely get better and better at landing fungals with minimal or no damage even with the loss in range. Probably use burrow shenanigans more too as they get the extra APM's.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 12 2012 09:41 GMT
#206
On December 12 2012 18:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:38 Maloreon wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:35 silent_owl wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Noblesse is kind of like a worse (compared to contemporary standards) modern day sC.


Happy birthday, man. Anyway, yeah. Although I miss sC during his heyday.

Thanks.

And yeah, it makes me sadface. sC was a cool stylistic player and we need some more stylistic players in SC2 right now.


It's ok we have cool stylistic players like Gumiho. His style: owning your entire face.

And. . .and Jjakji. Right?

*Sniffles*

Stylistics player fall out because its not very viable in most cases.. it just ends up getting figured out, there are very few stylistic.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 12 2012 09:42 GMT
#207
who's fitzy?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#208
On December 12 2012 18:41 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:38 Maloreon wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:35 silent_owl wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Noblesse is kind of like a worse (compared to contemporary standards) modern day sC.


Happy birthday, man. Anyway, yeah. Although I miss sC during his heyday.

Thanks.

And yeah, it makes me sadface. sC was a cool stylistic player and we need some more stylistic players in SC2 right now.


It's ok we have cool stylistic players like Gumiho. His style: owning your entire face.

And. . .and Jjakji. Right?

*Sniffles*

Stylistics player fall out because its not very viable in most cases.. it just ends up getting figured out, there are very few stylistic.


that's why sniper won gsl. that guy has no style
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#209
On December 12 2012 18:42 Schelim wrote:
who's fitzy?


(former?) player on ROOT
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#210
On December 12 2012 18:42 Schelim wrote:
who's fitzy?


Fitzyhere, was on Root i believe.

He wears a hat.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#211
On December 12 2012 18:40 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:38 vthree wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:32 Maloreon wrote:
TvZ since patch has been really good I honestly have no idea how anyone can complain. The games have been very back and forth in pretty much every tournament since patch... dozens of games and I can hardly recall one boring TvZ.


Yes. Even with the reduce range, zergs can still get good fungals off. The difference is that the tanks can kill the infestors much easier and not let them get away. One of the issues with TvZ pre patch was that zergs could fungal and trade evenly in the first fight. But when the next marine/tank army comes, they are facing twice the amount of infestors and it just snowballs.


Yup, I'm wondering if it will stay this way as Zergs get better Infestor control though. Which is why I'm all for the unit getting nerfed more and other stuff getting better in HotS (I play Zerg btw). I think this will be like Infestors from a year ago, Zerg pros will likely get better and better at landing fungals with minimal or no damage even with the loss in range. Probably use burrow shenanigans more too as they get the extra APM's.


Right now seems ok imho. Yes fungal is a boring skill to watch, but HotS is close enough and pro players can punish those fungals easier with siege tanks. If they get better infestor control in the next 3 months, i don't mind since we will start to see more and more HotS tourneys.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#212
mutalisk incoming
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 12 2012 09:43 GMT
#213
On December 12 2012 18:42 Schelim wrote:
who's fitzy?


Dunno but I know he didn't revolutionize queens lol. I know he's an NA zerg player but as far as I know he's never had good results in tournaments or anything.
When I think of something else, something will go here
TeveT
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:47:17
December 12 2012 09:44 GMT
#214
So, when pressing the green SQ Free Live-button on gomtv, is it supposed to work? Nothing opens and no message given... I am logged in...

nvm, 3rd reinstall of gomplayer solved it, god i hate that program...
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 12 2012 09:44 GMT
#215
Wolf what are you talking about!!!!??
#TheOneTrueDong
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 12 2012 09:44 GMT
#216
On December 12 2012 18:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Sigh. Anyone know of a way to watch this if you dont have a ticket? Free stream is down.


Free stream seems fine for me.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:48:43
December 12 2012 09:44 GMT
#217
On December 12 2012 18:40 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:38 vthree wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:32 Maloreon wrote:
TvZ since patch has been really good I honestly have no idea how anyone can complain. The games have been very back and forth in pretty much every tournament since patch... dozens of games and I can hardly recall one boring TvZ.


Yes. Even with the reduce range, zergs can still get good fungals off. The difference is that the tanks can kill the infestors much easier and not let them get away. One of the issues with TvZ pre patch was that zergs could fungal and trade evenly in the first fight. But when the next marine/tank army comes, they are facing twice the amount of infestors and it just snowballs.


Yup, I'm wondering if it will stay this way as Zergs get better Infestor control though (relative to the patches changes, but also in general as Infestor control has increased almost in a linear fashion over the last year at the top level). Which is why I'm all for the unit getting nerfed more and other stuff getting better in HotS (I play Zerg btw). I think this will be like Infestors from a year ago, Zerg pros will likely get better and better at landing fungals with minimal or no damage even with the loss in range. Probably use burrow shenanigans more too as they get the extra APM's.


Well, it will come down to infestor micro vs tank force fire. Almost like ghost vs templar battles. It is like saying terrans can split so good that fungals don't do much. But we have seen that even with months/year of practice, it isn't that easy to do. If you look at zergs now, they have already gotten a lot better with infestor control (no more infestor headbutts!) but that 1 range makes it THAT much harder and smaller margin of error. Even with 500 APM, you still cannot control your entire army 'perfectly'.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 12 2012 09:45 GMT
#218
On December 12 2012 18:40 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:38 vthree wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:32 Maloreon wrote:
TvZ since patch has been really good I honestly have no idea how anyone can complain. The games have been very back and forth in pretty much every tournament since patch... dozens of games and I can hardly recall one boring TvZ.


Yes. Even with the reduce range, zergs can still get good fungals off. The difference is that the tanks can kill the infestors much easier and not let them get away. One of the issues with TvZ pre patch was that zergs could fungal and trade evenly in the first fight. But when the next marine/tank army comes, they are facing twice the amount of infestors and it just snowballs.


Yup, I'm wondering if it will stay this way as Zergs get better Infestor control though (relative to the patches changes, but also in general as Infestor control has increased almost in a linear fashion over the last year at the top level). Which is why I'm all for the unit getting nerfed more and other stuff getting better in HotS (I play Zerg btw). I think this will be like Infestors from a year ago, Zerg pros will likely get better and better at landing fungals with minimal or no damage even with the loss in range. Probably use burrow shenanigans more too as they get the extra APM's.


I hope that Z is given more options to use in HotS. I enjoyed watching infestors and even broods until I started seeing them in every game and in every matchup. Kudos to DRG for actually using ultras.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 12 2012 09:45 GMT
#219
DRG plays Muta allllll the time to this day.
#TheOneTrueDong
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 12 2012 09:45 GMT
#220
On December 12 2012 18:43 Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:41 Hiea wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:38 Maloreon wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:35 silent_owl wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Noblesse is kind of like a worse (compared to contemporary standards) modern day sC.


Happy birthday, man. Anyway, yeah. Although I miss sC during his heyday.

Thanks.

And yeah, it makes me sadface. sC was a cool stylistic player and we need some more stylistic players in SC2 right now.


It's ok we have cool stylistic players like Gumiho. His style: owning your entire face.

And. . .and Jjakji. Right?

*Sniffles*

Stylistics player fall out because its not very viable in most cases.. it just ends up getting figured out, there are very few stylistic.


that's why sniper won gsl. that guy has no style


Lol... but its also true for world class players over the last two years like Leenock and MVP. Their style: owning. Despite my joke earlier in the thread the best players might have little quirks or whatever in their play but they can play any build really well. At least that is what I like to believe, for now. Someday I hope we get bizarre virtuosos that can dominate for years with a distinct style. We'll see.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
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