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PhoenixVoid
Canada32743 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 Soyuz wrote: And Gumiho vs Polt! god GumihovT is just so good.... GuMiho has the most entertaining games ever, just high quality all around in all match-ups. Too bad he doesn't travel much (or at all), and he does tend to lose more than he wins in singles than team leagues. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:46 opterown wrote: personal top 10 for the year, without weight recent tournaments: DongRaeGu - great early on, less so now but still relevant Mvp - Mvp, enough said Leenock - good pretty much all year Life - insane second half this year MarineKing - dropped off lately, but still some of the best achievements this year. peak ELO was insane PartinG - some really solid recent results but remember he only beat one korean to win $125,000 lol. inconsistent in GSL Creator - started shining mid-year and still very relevant TaeJa - did really well for a few weeks, but his tourney wins were against rather weak lineups Rain - came on recently which is the only reason he's not higher, likely will stay relevant for a long time Stephano or viOLet - token 'best foreigner' To find the best players what you do is take all the Code S winners and then put them in order of how well they did this year so 1.DRG (GSL,2ndOSL,2nd MLG x2, 1st MLG x2) 2.Mvp (GSL, 2nd GSL, IEM) 3.Life (GSL, 2nd TSL, MLG) 4+5 Seed&Sniper and then the next 5 best who didnt win GSL imo plus Parting had to qualify for BWC by WCS Korea so its not just beating 1 korean. | ||
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Shikada
Serbia976 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 stuchiu wrote: I raise you Flash vs. Ryung on top of those 2 on Whirlwind. Good candidates all, but Flash vs Ryung takes it for me. | ||
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ardi
United States187 Posts
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kju
6143 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Yeah I think he was over producing lings, Sure lings are very good vs Pure Stalker 9 dts shred lings so quick that the stalkers were free to pick off whatever they wanted. HerO killed the roach warren | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26035 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 AgentW wrote: As a Terran player, please chide me if this is a stupid question: with the current meta, why don't more Protoss go for a big pre-hive super heavy blink stalker attack like that? Fungal takes so long to kill stalkers, and if you engage in a choke, upgraded stalkers should do better than roaches and lings, right? They pretty much do a lot of those timings. However Stalker/Immortal or Stalker/Collosi attacks tend to fare better because they're more balanced comps. If a Zerg gets wind of a huge blink stalker timing he can go more ling/infestor centric which really shreds Stalker balls if controlled well. | ||
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Ben-
United Kingdom210 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 stuchiu wrote: I raise you Flash vs. Ryung on top of those 2 on Whirlwind. gotta agree with this anyway gogo hero! | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
I think so too, You need support for broods and it got wiped out way before the broods finished morphing. If, for some reason a few roaches/lings and infestors survived in time for the broods I think they'd have melted to the DTs since there was no detection. | ||
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2stra
Netherlands928 Posts
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OrangeNinja21
United States84 Posts
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ultratorr
Canada332 Posts
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Putty
210 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 AgentW wrote: As a Terran player, please chide me if this is a stupid question: with the current meta, why don't more Protoss go for a big pre-hive super heavy blink stalker attack like that? Fungal takes so long to kill stalkers, and if you engage in a choke, upgraded stalkers should do better than roaches and lings, right? Because there are spine crawler walls. Pure blink stalker vs spine+infestor are not good. There are many others more effective pre-hive timings... In this game violet was clearly confused by the unconventional build from hero and thats why he lost, but that push from hero was not very good. Hero is like tlo...usualy he wins disorienting his opponent with crazy things... | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:49 stuchiu wrote: I raise you Flash vs. Ryung on top of those 2 on Whirlwind. That was a great game too. Flash's flanks kept in that game 20 minutes longer than he should've been. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:52 Putty wrote: Because there are spine crawler walls. Pure blink stalker vs spine+infestor are not good. There are many others more effective pre-hive timings... In this game violet was clearly confused by the unconventional build from hero and thats why he lost, but that push from hero was not very good. Hero is like tlo...usualy he wins disorienting his opponent with crazy things... Yeah people used to do it earlier in the year, maybe around the summer? They used to go for a +3 200/200 blink stalker prehive timing push but zergs got good at defending it. I remember some people like Creator and Genius using it | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
and please do not 1 gate expand... | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:51 Wombat_NI wrote: They pretty much do a lot of those timings. However Stalker/Immortal or Stalker/Collosi attacks tend to fare better because they're more balanced comps. If a Zerg gets wind of a huge blink stalker timing he can go more ling/infestor centric which really shreds Stalker balls if controlled well. Okay, thank you. With 3-1 upgrades and the FFs that HerO had, how would have the 0-2 (??) lings done, do you think? With blink, does it fare okay? | ||
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Shikada
Serbia976 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:52 Putty wrote: Because there are spine crawler walls. Pure blink stalker vs spine+infestor are not good. There are many others more effective pre-hive timings... In this game violet was clearly confused by the unconventional build from hero and thats why he lost, but that push from hero was not very good. Hero is like tlo...usualy he wins disorienting his opponent with crazy things... Very well said dude. I totally agree. Hero likes to make the game chaotic and then win with his insane micro and harassment, and in general, experience with chaotic games. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:53 Shellshock1122 wrote: Yeah people used to do it earlier in the year, maybe around the summer? They used to go for a +3 200/200 blink stalker prehive timing push but zergs got good at defending it. I remember some people like Creator and Genius using it It was the Seed build man I never did see it not work, he stopped using though so I guess they figured it out in practice. | ||
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