EPT[IPL5] Day 3 - Page 59
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Glubschauge
Austria1216 Posts
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:15 Pursuit_ wrote: the burst damage of banelings and presence of mutalisks to clean up the medivacs makes them kinda redundant. Most huge marine / tank pushes atm have very low medivac counts. Well, they offer some utility too as you can pick your units up if it's looking dire. | ||
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polishedturd
United States505 Posts
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Genealogy
Sweden65 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:14 Wayem wrote: Hello TL, Can someone please tell me how Creator's games went ? I heard Hero's ones were brutal  Well, it's have been a very enjoyable tournament so far ! But I guess it's not worth watching anymore...  Bomber vs  CreatorGame 1 -- Cloud Kingdom Both players macro up on 3 bases ( missed the beginning sorry) Bomber catches Creator's army out of position as he pushes the 3rd. He kills the 3rd unopposed. Bomber lands EMPs all over Creator's zealots and Creator engages poorly. Bomber gets a concave and rolls creator with 2-2 vs 1-2 upgrades Game 2 -- Ohana Bomber opens up fast 3 CC vs DT expand. DTs get into Bomber's main and natural. Bomber has no scan energy saved because he drops all his mules. DTs kill Bomber's whole army. Bomber ggs Game 3 -- Entombed Valley Creator opened up 4 gate off 2 nexus. Bomber got 3 bunkers up and was barely able to hold off Creator's push. Bomber gets 1-1 and medivacs and counter attacks. Bomber has 1 medivac dropping the main and 3rd of creator and another one switching between the main and natural. Creator doesnt have the right army composition to deal with the insane drop micro. Creator loses all his stalkers. 3rd force of Bomber pushes up the natural ramp. Creator ggs | ||
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Noc-
Finland850 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:13 vthree wrote: MMA's style doesn't work nearly as well in the new meta. Too much creep so drops gets spotted much earlier and harder to make those multipronge attacks. And the queen patch helped defending for zerg and creep spreading, and now we come to the conclusion why MMA style doesnt work anymore, and why he is slumping so bad. IT WAS THE PATCH that killed MMA. No balance whine intended. Just saying the styles are changing and MMA's style is outdated. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10163 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:16 Mouzone wrote: Well, they offer some utility too as you can pick your units up if it's looking dire. That's problematic with mutas tho. | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:14 Wayem wrote: Hello TL, Can someone please tell me how Creator's games went ? I heard Hero's ones were brutal Well, it's have been a very enjoyable tournament so far ! But I guess it's not worth watching anymore... IPL didn't start broadcasting game 1 till halfway through i think, but creator lost to a bio push at his 3rd that he didn't engage particularly well and wasn't maxed due to losing pylons and getting supply blocked game 2 creator won with dts and no scans available game 3 creator went 1gate exp - 4gate pressure and did great damage. He then played way to greedy, tried to get a 3rd + coll + dbl upgrades. some great drop harassment from bomber tore him apart. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 02 2012 04:22 Sabu113 wrote: This tournament I would put more money on bomber's TvZ than Creator PvZ. why? bomber has beaten slivko and snute only haha On December 02 2012 05:17 Tayar wrote: IPL didn't start broadcasting game 1 till halfway through i think, but creator lost to a bio push at his 3rd that he didn't engage particularly well and wasn't maxed due to losing pylons and getting supply blocked game 2 creator won with dts and no scans available game 3 creator went 1gate exp - 4gate pressure and did great damage. He then played way to greedy, tried to get a 3rd + coll + dbl upgrades. some great drop harassment from bomber tore him apart. so sad T_T | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:17 opterown wrote: why? bomber has beaten slivko and snute only haha those were hard fought victories man | ||
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Wayem
France455 Posts
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote: Polt can beat DRG. He matches up well vs. DRG. Sniper would be difficult. Leenock is impossible. Polt has to play Sniper or Sleep, and I don't think Sleep can win that. Sleep's best hope is that Sniper doesn't want to reveal any ZvZ builds before the GSL final against Hyun. Regardless, for Polt to win he would have to beat Leenock, there's no way to avoid him. So has Fionn given up on Polt? :o | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32755 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:18 Melliflue wrote: Polt has to play Sniper or Sleep, and I don't think Sleep can win that. Sleep's best hope is that Sniper doesn't want to reveal any ZvZ builds before the GSL final against Hyun. Regardless, for Polt to win he would have to beat Leenock, there's no way to avoid him. So has Fionn given up on Polt? :o Just given up on Polt TvZ, his TvT and TvP are probably top 3. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:15 TommyP wrote: Yeah, I could watch the old lair style all day because it is actually exciting. And usually the better player wins when it is marine/tank vs. muta/ling/bling.I dont think people mind the old school zergs like NesTea, DRG, Leenock, etc. Oh how I wish old TvZ was still how the matchup is played. It was so much more fun to watch. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10163 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:19 ChaosArcher wrote: I am still waiting for a terran to do 1 rax cc into cc cancel into TLO 7 rax. Yep, steppes of war style. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
The loser bracket winner has to win 2 BoX? Or just one series no matter what? | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:16 vthree wrote: Because Zerg has infestor/BL and one 4-5 bases by the time you have 200 supply To be fair, on certain maps such as Antiga it's not unheard of for Terran to go for a straight up 2/2 200/200 marine tank push at around 15:00. This actually punishes straight tech to infestor / bl quite well, but does very poorly against ling / bling / muta because of the insane amount of creep spread Zerg can get if you play more or less passively for 15 minutes. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On December 02 2012 05:18 Melliflue wrote: Polt has to play Sniper or Sleep, and I don't think Sleep can win that. Sleep's best hope is that Sniper doesn't want to reveal any ZvZ builds before the GSL final against Hyun. Regardless, for Polt to win he would have to beat Leenock, there's no way to avoid him. So has Fionn given up on Polt? :o Leenock/Life in the current state of the game are the only players I don't think Polt can beat except if he 2raxes his way to the title. Which is possible, I guess. Also if Polt doesn't make the finals and Bomber loses here, that means two more Zergs in the GSL Tour finals, making it pretty much a ton of zerg, a few protoss, and mvp. | ||
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