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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 Die4Ever wrote: foreigner zergs vs korean protosses...Sen is good though What is your problem? At a fairly recent preview of TL (I think WCS EU), even the TL writers wrote, that EU-zerg are probably the best in the world at that time. That might have changed with Life´s rise, but Stephano/Nerchio/Vortix can still compete with nearly every korean zerg out there. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 Defenestrator wrote: This. Also where's the Terran QQ? They all got wiped awhile back, though I guess this wasn't a strong T tourney to begin with If we were watching our heroes die to foreigner infestor/broodlords there'd be whining, plenty of it  | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:49 Exarl25 wrote: People keep saying shit like this but it's not actually true. Go grab a random sample of recent PvZs from GSL and see how many games fit that mold. Go grab a random sample of PvZs from GSL and find games that don't fit into that mold. It's like 99% of the time one decisive battle and it's over. Some players stay in the game a little longer, but we know the result. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
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Slayers Boners
China24 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:43 ChrisBrownPlaya wrote: SC2 looks like, the more apm and harrass u do... the more u lose. Rain and hero both. BW the multi prong harrass rewards you. Man, hero should have never lost that game. Although Sen got harassed out of his ass, he actually managed to keep a 20 supply lead the whole time, aka, heout-macroed Hero. ==> Macro>Micro, exacly what a RTS is supposed to be like. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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Zaurus
Singapore676 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 Wildmoon wrote: You have to be stupid as fuck to blame anything other than Hero that game. I would call that all in rather than harassing. nope, Sen defended with free ITs, there was no cost efficient trading for hero. ITs cost too little energy. IMO, infestors are just dead boring and make zerg a uber deathball race. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
What he said is actually true. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:49 Whitewing wrote: Um, it's the best protoss players in the world for the most part (I guess a couple of them like Squirtle and MC are missing >_>) and the zergs are certainly not best zerg in the world quality players. Sen is solid code A, others definitely aren't, and they put up a crazy good fight. Creator, Parting and Rain are all serious contenders for GSL Code S champion each season, and HerO has had some very deep runs also. So the complaint seems to be that zergs who aren't nearly as good as they are are making it that difficult for them to win. Sorry people don't bow down to their toss overlords. Holy shit this attitude. | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 Defenestrator wrote: This. Also where's the Terran QQ? They all got wiped awhile back, though I guess this wasn't a strong T tourney to begin with The three top level ZvPs in the tournament got eliminated ZvZ. Roro, Curious and Stephano all got dropped ZvZ. Only a bunch of foreigners with broodlord/infestor ZvP got through. The fact that they were able to put up a fight almost singularly had to do with playing BL/infestor. This tournament says nothing about the balance of the ZvP matchup. | ||
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 Die4Ever wrote: foreigner zergs vs korean protosses...Sen is good though I don't even think Sen played brilliantly that last game, he did what he could. But HerO just over committed so many units to not killing economy, or trading efficiently. The entire time through that fight, Sen's 3rd and 4th were up and mining, and because some tech was killed off, Sen was banking minerals like CRAZY. So when HerO finally backed off to his greedy ass 4th, Sen literally maxed with like one larva sweep because of his bank. HerO played that badly. The right person won the 5th game. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:47 RaiKageRyu wrote: No, you two can jump into a bonfire. I'm a hardcore fan and I HATE health bars on. How can you hate it? It's pretty easy to ignore if you really want to. But i feel like often the observers don't highlight low hp units. Often you see terrans attacking with mech units, all low HP and not getting repaired and similar stuff which is valuable information. Or a group of low hp zerglings and similar stuff... I feel like it's too valuable to be left off, except if the observer is really good. | ||
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mataxp
Chile538 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:49 Exarl25 wrote: People keep saying shit like this but it's not actually true. Go grab a random sample of recent PvZs from GSL and see how many games fit that mold. I think he is just saying that these are the best way to win, not that all games are like that. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:51 Integra wrote: Still cannot wait for a PvP on Tal'darim. Rain won't know what to do. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:51 thepuppyassassin wrote: I can't believe Creator is leading Rain.. seems sacrilegious somehow.. Why? lol | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:52 fire_brand wrote: The three top level ZvPs in the tournament got eliminated ZvZ. Roro, Curious and Stephano all got dropped ZvZ. Only a bunch of foreigners with broodlord/infestor ZvP got through. The fact that they were able to put up a fight almost singularly had to do with playing BL/infestor. This tournament says nothing about the balance of the ZvP matchup. What are the zergs supposed to use? Hydra/roach? | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:51 thepuppyassassin wrote: I can't believe Creator is leading Rain.. seems sacrilegious somehow.. You kidding? Creator is absurdly good, and his PvP is very strong. The kid doesn't even really have a weak matchup, he's just a monster. He's been my favorite to take this entire tournament for ages. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote: Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him. Oh wait... Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit" | ||
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Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
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