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pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 14 2012 10:46 GMT
#61
8% Idra to win the tournament? Realy?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 11:06:25
November 14 2012 10:53 GMT
#62
The combination of the GSL group-system and random drawings for groups simply makes makes no sense. It's pretty much saying "may the luck be with you", not just about the group you end up in, but also about the order you meet your opponents in and your opponents further ahead in the brackets. Pretty sad for the highest paying tournament of the year.

The GSL group-format is predicated on seeding. The only reason Blizzard have had to make it the GSL format is because they've made one of the oldest mistakes of tournament formats: making the drawing of the bracket for the post-group-stage public before groups have been played. Thus, in order to ensure that players won't be loosing on purpose in order to get a more favorable bracket/opponent, Blizzard have had to discard the obvious format for a randomized group - the round robin format.

Of course, having pre-determined brackets also only makes sense if the players positions in groups have been determined by seeding, giving a logical order for the group-winners and -losers to meet after the group-stage. They will be carrying seeds. If this is not the case, why wouldn't you randomize the 1st and 2nd placers from each other group against each other (while ensuring that the players who have met in groups cannot meet before finals)? That would also make it possible to use the round-robin format, ensuring that every player in the randomized groups meet every other player.

What a clusterfuck, Blizzard.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 14 2012 10:54 GMT
#63
On November 14 2012 15:00 Rui.S wrote:
Do people really think stephano or scarlett is going to win over rain, parting or creator -.-


Why not ? We have seen numerous zvp foreigner wins vs koreans this year. And parting just lost what 5-1 to Hyun ?
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
November 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#64
I'm hoping for a HerO victory but I somehow feel that Creator will take it.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
November 14 2012 11:26 GMT
#65
wow... I don't think I will watch this 3:00 AM :S
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#66
parting seems a lot more vulnerable after his code S group today
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
November 14 2012 12:49 GMT
#67
no korean terran, i hope foreigner win
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
November 14 2012 12:59 GMT
#68
gogo Sen!
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
November 14 2012 13:06 GMT
#69
Man, fucking Group D and G are so easy. Lucky Rain and Lucifron. And I hope Grubby makes it out.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 14 2012 13:12 GMT
#70
On November 14 2012 21:32 opterown wrote:
parting seems a lot more vulnerable after his code S group today

Still has a relatively weak group where he remains a favourite in a comfortable position. Socke could beat him if he gets good builds, Illusion may have a small shot but overall I think PartinG might be fucked when he gets out of his groups because he will play one of Creator/Nerchio/Scarlett and all of them or even moonglade who beat MC at MLG might threaten him.

I'm very interested to see how TitaN does, he's been practicing customs with LiveZerg, Mana, Sage, Nightend and others nonstop for the past couple of weeks, I think he's really well-prepared, shame that he has such a tough group compared to others.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
November 14 2012 13:16 GMT
#71
On November 14 2012 18:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:14 Yello wrote:
Hey Opterown, I think you should add Adebisi's twitter as well since he is observing the games (on the main stream I guess)

https://twitter.com/AdebisiSC

Just because you added all the casters twitter as well ^.^

excellent idea!

aww thx guys B)

also... HYPE!
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
November 14 2012 13:18 GMT
#72
On November 14 2012 22:16 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:27 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:14 Yello wrote:
Hey Opterown, I think you should add Adebisi's twitter as well since he is observing the games (on the main stream I guess)

https://twitter.com/AdebisiSC

Just because you added all the casters twitter as well ^.^

excellent idea!

aww thx guys B)

also... HYPE!

Would you please simultanuosly observe all 4 streams? That would be awesome.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 13:22:45
November 14 2012 13:20 GMT
#73
Could Grubby have possibly asked for an easier group?

Certainly, Sen is no slouch, but compared to the rest of the competition, he should be managable.
I don't know that much about killer, but Huk should be smooth sailing for the Grubster.

Is anybody willing to give me 1:25 odds that IdrA won't make it out of his group?
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 14 2012 13:20 GMT
#74
On November 14 2012 21:32 opterown wrote:
parting seems a lot more vulnerable after his code S group today


Parting mustve been trolling... 100k > 43k... right? right? :|
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 14 2012 13:23 GMT
#75
On November 14 2012 22:20 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:32 opterown wrote:
parting seems a lot more vulnerable after his code S group today


Parting mustve been trolling... 100k > 43k... right? right? :|

That sounds like something Artosis would say.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 14 2012 13:28 GMT
#76
gogo Scarlett <3
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 13:31:00
November 14 2012 13:29 GMT
#77
A european zerg or scarlett has a real chance to win this whole thing... the only strong koreans are protoss...

if this happened it would cause a huge commotion on the scene

1) non korean winning world champiosnship

2) zerg imba arguments would go off the scale
Gogo Grubby.
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 14 2012 13:31 GMT
#78
stephano easymode
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
November 14 2012 13:42 GMT
#79
wow look at the polls lol.. idra winning against roro is highly unlikely seeing how roro out microing and macroing drg in gsl before
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
November 14 2012 13:51 GMT
#80
On November 14 2012 22:18 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 22:16 Adebisi wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:27 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:14 Yello wrote:
Hey Opterown, I think you should add Adebisi's twitter as well since he is observing the games (on the main stream I guess)

https://twitter.com/AdebisiSC

Just because you added all the casters twitter as well ^.^

excellent idea!

aww thx guys B)

also... HYPE!

Would you please simultanuosly observe all 4 streams? That would be awesome.


That'd take like, 400 APM. Or eight arms. Time to get augmented, Adebisi!
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