EPT[WCS] Global Finals Day 1 - Page 2
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Dexington
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Dodgin
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On November 14 2012 15:10 Za7oX wrote: Will Stephano just win again? lol I say no, but if he did that would be pretty amazing. He would also join the 300k club with Mvp and MC. | ||
Shellshock
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Jjhg
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Too many noname Zergs and Protoss. The lack of Terran is killing SC2 | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7799 Posts
I'm known (not really) for making predictions that most would consider somewhat out there. It actually usually turns out well for me. At one point I was Rank 4 on Liquibet (out of a pool of thousands, that's pretty impressive, no?) but those glory days are long behind me. Is it because I've been watching less SC2 than usual? Have I fallen out of touch with these players? Perhaps, but I damn sure want to make some great predictions here to redeem myself. However, as with every bet, I will be prioritizing cheering my favourites over cheering somebody just because I predicted them to win. ST.PartinG 2-0 (4-0) Quantic.Illusion 2-1 (4-2) LG-IMFenix 1-2 (2-4) aTn.Socke 0-2 (0-4) Illusion has historically had super good TvT, such as when he took out TvT master Ryung at IPL3. PartinG in a group full of Terrans and a mediocre Protoss? Yeah, I don't see him dropping a game in this group. Socke is a weirdo. One day he's taking out DongRaeGu, the next day he's losing to HayprO or something. Fenix has been under the radar for a long time. However, in his last real televised tournament appearance he beat the shit out of oGs (including MC) and I'm a fan of him in general, that's why I'm picking him over Socke. ROOTViBE 2-0 (4-2) EGSuppyRC 2-1 (5-4) K3.VortiX 1-2 (4-5) SpiderComm 0-2 (2-4) I don't know enough about Comm to feel qualified to comment on him. However, ViBE is a rising star in NA with great ZvZ. Suppy took out Mafia at MLG and has great ZvZ himself. These two vs VortiX could go either way because VortiX is also a talented ZvZ player. I pretty much flipped a coin here. Gamania.Sen 2-0 (4-1) EGHuKRC 2-1 (5-4) Grubby 1-2 (4-4) Dignitas.KiLLeR 0-2 (0-4) Sen is just plain better than the other three in the group. KiLLeR has never impressed me, so I'm picking him for last. HuK vs Grubby could go either way, opted for HuK. FXOBabyKnight 2-0 (4-2) SKT.Rain 2-1 (4-3) Quantic.State 1-2 (3-5) iM.Mafia 0-2 (1-4) While it's possible for Mafia to advance, dealing with the Korean trained State and ever creative BabyKnight will be a big challenge. Rain has, IMO, showed a weakness vs Zerg lately, but Mafia isn't good enough to capitalize on that. State, as I said, has had Korean training, but it isn't enough to beat Rain, the best Protoss in the world, or the incredibly underrated BabyKnight. I really feel like BabyKnight can make a big splash at this tournament. IIRC he's got insane PvP skills and combined with his creative builds, I'm calling it now, he gets a 2-1 over Rain. KAHN.RorO 2-0 (4-1) EGStephanoRC 2-1 (5-4) LiquidHerO 1-2 (4-4) EGIdrARC 0-2 (0-4) One of the two groups of death. IdrA's strength mostly lies in his ZvT, and there are no Terrans in this group. RorO's strength is mainly in ZvP, but he's got mad ZvZ chops to strut as well. Stephano vs HerO is interesting, and usually if there's a close 2-1 series and say, Stephano wins, due to the closeness, I'll usually have HerO win the rematch in my predictions. Not the case here. Stephano schooled HerO so hard the last time they played (which is still NASL to my knowledge) that I have to pick him twice, albeit the games should be very close. ST.Curious 2-0 (4-1) ROOTMajOr 2-1 (4-3) ROXKIS.TitaN 1-2 (4-5) CJ.herO 0-2 (1-4) I haven't watched herO play much so I'm not really qualified to comment. I'm aware of all the players he's taken out, but TitaN and MajOr are just so fucking good! That's right, I'm still on the MajOr hype train. This could be considered my real out there prediction of the groups I guess, but herO last in this group. Curious is super good as well and he should be 1st no matter what. TitaN vs MajOr is again ridiculously close, but I went with MajOr after flipping a coin. K3.LucifroN 2-0 (4-0) FXOLoWeLy 2-1 (4-2) iS.Insur 1-2 (2-4) vTi.Levin 0-2 (0-4) This group makes me sad, because really, compare it to the one directly below. I don't think anyone except Brazillians know if Levin is actually any good. I'm going to assume that he isn't for the sake of simplicity. LucifroN is a beast and in this relatively easy group he should have no problems going 4-0. Insur has very good PvT, but LoWeLy is Zerg, and a very good one at that. Acer.Nerchio 2-0 (4-1) Nv.mOOnGLaDe 2-1 (5-3) Acer.Scarlett 1-2 (3-5) CreatorPrime 0-2 (1-4) **** this group. Unfair that two of these players have to go out. I'll explain my entire prediction for this group. Nv.mOOnGLaDe 2-1 Acer.Scarlett Scarlett did indeed win their last meeting, but as mOOnGLaDe said in an MLG interview, he learned a lot from it and I doubt he'll repeat the same mistakes. Still, it's a close series and could go either way (that can be said about literally every combination of players in these groups though). Acer.Nerchio 2-0 CreatorPrime PvZ is Creator's weakest match-up, contrasting Nerchio's best. Now, best match-up vs worst match-up doesn't mean anything if there's a significant difference of skill between the players, but there isn't. MC and YongHwa, two players with what I view as a little bit better PvZ that Creator, really got schooled by Nerchio. Nv.mOOnGLaDe 1-2 Acer.Nerchio mOOnGLaDe's ZvZ is good, but Nerchio's ZvZ is like, top 5 in the world. Acer.Scarlett 2-1 CreatorPrime Scarlett took out HerO, who again, is a stronger PvZ player than Creator. Even if her victory over HerO was mostly due to broodlord/infestor (or so the TL mods say) just the fact that she almost took out Oz when Oz was in his prime as one of the best Protosses around should favor her over Creator. Creator is a top 3 Protoss in the world but I really just don't feel that his PvZ can stack up, particularly with the current struggle Protoss faces against Zerg. If Scarlett can hold off all-ins, she wins, I feel. EDIT: After Creator's Code S Ro16 group, I feel that I've underestimated Creator's PvZ. Still gonna go with Scarlett because I already 'locked in' my predictions, I guess. Scarlett still has a chance, but I definitely wouldn't call her favored. Nv.mOOnGLaDe 2-0 Acer.Scarlett Rematch. Again, turning around my typical rematch rule due to SEA bias. 2-0 this time because I don't know, why not? I like it when people shit talk my predictions because it usually makes matches more exciting. Being able to say "Ha ha ha ha ha ha! I was right and you were wrong!" is great. Of course, it can backfire too. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 14 2012 15:54 Jjhg wrote: Who cares?: The tournament. Too many noname Zergs and Protoss. The lack of Terran is killing SC2 No names? What the hell. I can recognise every single zerg and protoss except 1 or 2 from each. So no idea what the hell you are talking about. If you seriously think most of those are no name then you don't watch sc2 like at all, sad but true. Don't complain about something that isn't true. The only true thing in your post was lack of terrans. | ||
digmouse
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Zeroxk
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Calling groups: A: PartinG, Socke B: VortiX, Suppy C: Sen, Grubby D: Rain, BabyKnight E: Stephano, Roro F: Curious, TitaN (cause I want to, usually herO should be the smartest choice) G: LucifroN, Lowely H: Creator, Nerchio (Scarlett has a great shot, too, because she has the comparatively easier match and should get two chances at advancing) I'm happy as long as Lucifron and VortiX both get first so they don't have to play each other the next round. TitaN, Creator and Nerchio advancing would be awesome, too, otherwise I don't really care too much about names. Rain playing well should be a given, don't need to mention him. | ||
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Sumahi
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On November 14 2012 16:02 digmouse wrote: I failed to snipe you this time opterown! hehe, i just got ready too early this time more like :p On November 14 2012 16:47 StarVe wrote: Nerchio vs Creator and Curious vs Titan (and Major vs herO, I guess) would be the only big upset that I'd consider to be in the realm of possibility. PartinG vs Socke is still PvP, Stephano beating Hero wouldn't be an upset, IdrA shouldn't beat Roro and don't get me started on Mafia vs Rain. herO lost to thebest 2-0, major definitely could upset him imo if that's how his PvT is haha | ||
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Fueled
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
 The casters are gonna start going crazy after awhile lol | ||
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SmoKim
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On November 14 2012 17:17 EleanorRIgby wrote: i would love to watch but its gonna be all PvZ i don't think it'll be quite as bad, because it's only top top level laaatteegame pvz which is a bit stale, and you won't see much of that until deep in the brackets like roro vs. rain, curious vs. creator, etc. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
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lichter
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On November 14 2012 16:54 opterown wrote: hehe, i just got ready too early this time more like :p herO lost to thebest 2-0, major definitely could upset him imo if that's how his PvT is haha Yeah, I just can't say much about him, I think I've watched at most 2 of his games, and probably only PvP, so he only gets the bonus points every Korean gets for being Korean, and since he made it through WCS over some other players, he can't be too bad. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On November 14 2012 17:23 RaiKageRyu wrote: lol, it will be top 4 protoss. Trust me nah, there are only three tier1 protoss here, and they can get upset pretty easily. i think curious or roro stand a great chance at top 4 On November 14 2012 16:00 RPR_Tempest wrote: Acer.Nerchio 2-0 CreatorPrime PvZ is Creator's weakest match-up, contrasting Nerchio's best. Now, best match-up vs worst match-up doesn't mean anything if there's a significant difference of skill between the players, but there isn't. MC and YongHwa, two players with what I view as a little bit better PvZ that Creator, really got schooled by Nerchio. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio/games#tblt-7665-1-default-0-creator heh :D | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On November 14 2012 17:25 opterown wrote: nah, there are only three tier1 protoss here, and they can get upset pretty easily. i think curious or roro stand a great chance at top 4 http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio/games#tblt-7665-1-default-0-creator heh :D Doesn't say too much though, remember how this looked before certain LAN tournaments happened. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1771&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-7596-1-default-0-mc I'd still favour Creator, but one online tournament where Nerchio played quite badly (I think I remember seeing those games) and a BO1 on Tal'darim isn't too meaningful. | ||
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