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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2761
On November 05 2012 03:50 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 03:49 Havik_ wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:43 YourHarry wrote:
You allow your opponent to make 30 infestors... You should be able to make enough ghosts to counter them.

Ghosts, do, not, counter, infestors. Sick of this line being parroted out.



Yeah they do. A no Energy Infestor is the most useless unit in the game. EMP is aoe, if you can use them against Protoss, why not Zerg?? It used to be standard meta when lategame Terran had 30 Ghosts and sniped/empd everything to death.

You can't just mass ghosts and kill everything with them anymore so they might as well not exist in the eyes of terran players


Now you can't kill anything with them anymore thats the problem. EMP was never very good against Zerg to begin with. Ever tried to EMP Infestors ? Way too fat for it to be effective. Not to mention it only takes 100 Energy and does 0 damage.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26802 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2762
On November 05 2012 03:49 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 03:47 Lennient wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:40 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:36 Wombat_NI wrote:
Infestors need tweaked, this is getting ridiculous. At the very least make them smaller so EMP actually does something to them


Or tell David Kim to not be such a dumbass and tell i think it was demuslim that he (david kim) only expected zergs to build 5-6 infestors...

Did that actually happen? Hell I don't play Terran but I sympathise with some of you guys who feel Blizz have an agenda against the race

1. Thorzain debuts his Thor builds in TSL - added energy to Thors nerf.
2. MVP wins a few games with a big ghost lategame - Snipe nerf.
3. Zergs win games building insane amounts of infestors, for months now. - Nothing

calm down, there are 4 terrans in top 8, and you want more ?

I'm not angry, it just seems like silly reasoning. Blizzard's given reason for changing Ghosts was that they were too catch-all a counter to Zerg's Tier 3, how in the name of god are infestors not the Zerg equivalent?

Because unlike Protoss Zerg have units with the range to zone out ghosts entirely. If you pull forward your ghosts and don't EMP every infestor you can get all of your ghosts fungalled to death.

Also infestors are huge. Imagine trying to EMP an army of pure archons. Half of them won't be touched

Also if you DO make that many ghosts, Zergs can techswitch to any number of things.

Also, ghosts aren't good against Ultralisks, at all anymore so a ling/ultra switch can be especially deadly.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2763
memories of leenock vs. jjajki...
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2764
On November 05 2012 03:50 BronzeKnee wrote:
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On November 05 2012 03:48 Popkiller wrote:
Flash, Terran needs... a miracle.


Yes 4 of the Top 8 being Terran isn't enough. Terran need all 8 spots and a miracle to do that.


Needs a miracle to have any shot of winning the tournament... and you know I'm right.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2765
Designated Balance Discussion Thread

With this, end of absolutely all balance whine here. Just ban whoever complains please. Take your rage to the DESIGNATED place with a reasonable argument.
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2766
On November 05 2012 03:52 Noocta wrote:
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On November 05 2012 03:51 Angry.Zerg wrote:
Round 7 to 10 were 4 terrans 3 toss and 2 zergs.

Stop QQing terrans. You are still the most represented race.


That's the problem
People and Blizzard only look at numbers

Look at the game more. =(


Oh, I watched how Bomber throw all his thors/tanks for free, while terrans were raging here.
You play to win
hwatti
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland136 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2767
<3 Apollo & TB

Great combo.

A bit sad foreigners didnt do better but....still some awesome games to come!
Weird side out
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2768
Leenock is always so late on infestation pit. 17 minutes?
Osyrul
Profile Joined February 2012
257 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2769
On November 05 2012 03:51 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
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On November 05 2012 03:50 farvacola wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:49 MrCash wrote:
Holy shit TB is outclassing everyone else in terms of hype and excitement.

TB has been on point this tournament I must say.

Yeah, really hope him and apollo cast the finals

Best duo there at MLG.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2770
haha, tb on the spire, reminding me of



it always gets me, lol
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2771
Leenock is making a big mistake in this game, he should be making Infestors.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2772
On November 05 2012 03:51 samurai80 wrote:
Rain was not looking that good on previous games but now it looks like he's warming up to his normal level.

Yeah it seems like Rain has hit a groove, you can see it in his facial expressions. He's got this "Fuck yeah." look on his face now.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2773
haven't see mutaling for about few months now
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 18:54:13
November 04 2012 18:53 GMT
#2774
On November 05 2012 03:52 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 03:51 Angry.Zerg wrote:
Round 7 to 10 were 4 terrans 3 toss and 2 zergs.

Stop QQing terrans. You are still the most represented race.


That's the problem
People and Blizzard only look at numbers

Look at the game more. =(


Yes, the game is mess, there are only one viable macro builds and compositions for each race in each matchup. And we see the same end game everytime, the only difference being the micro.

Hopefully HOTS can open things up.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 18:54:36
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2775
On November 05 2012 03:51 mememolly wrote:
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On November 05 2012 03:50 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:48 mememolly wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:47 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:44 mememolly wrote:
On November 05 2012 03:43 SKYFISH_ wrote:
well, that game was a joke.
zerg is also a joke.


i have no idea if starcraft is dying or not but i sure as fuck hope it does


wtf, did you not see when bomber's units were caught in the middle of the map?


that's his point


his point is that bomber had bad positioning? doesn't look like that's his point at all, he's blaming bad play on balance


His point was that all his lead was cancelled by a chain F, and from that point a comeback was close to impossible


rofl, no, that's your point, he said
Show nested quote +
"well, that game was a joke.
zerg is also a joke.


i have no idea if starcraft is dying or not but i sure as fuck hope it does"


and what do you think it means lol, he's complaining about overlords you think ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16841 Posts
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2776
AWAAWA
The Bomber boy
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2777
BOOOOOOOOOOM
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2778
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2779
painful to watch
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
November 04 2012 18:54 GMT
#2780
Mutaling vs Bio... I really love these games : )
You play to win
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