On November 01 2012 22:04 opterown wrote: reminder i suppose that prime will be streaming at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) tomorrow! please tune in
do we know which player(s)?
not yet afaik? by the way the promoted it, i think it seemed more of a talkshow/meet and greet players with a few games rather than the traditional game stream? but konglish, so no idea, i can't watch anyway T_T haha
On November 01 2012 22:04 opterown wrote: reminder i suppose that prime will be streaming at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) tomorrow! please tune in
do we know which player(s)?
not yet afaik? by the way the promoted it, i think it seemed more of a talkshow/meet and greet players with a few games rather than the traditional game stream? but konglish, so no idea, i can't watch anyway T_T haha
But I love watching MKP replays with adds every 5 mins tt
Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
On November 02 2012 04:48 Fionn wrote: Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
...If Prime loses, they should disband.
Yep, they should disband cuz they don't have patchzergs like TSL, :D
On November 02 2012 04:48 Fionn wrote: Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
...If Prime loses, they should disband.
TIME TO BREAK OUT THE RAIN ALL KILL LET NOVEMBER BE THE MONTH OF DOUBLE RAIN.
On November 02 2012 04:48 Fionn wrote: Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
...If Prime loses, they should disband.
Yep, they should disband cuz they don't have patchzergs like TSL, :D
Fnatic Zergs are like 3-17 in their last 20 games or something like that. Moon/Byul got some big wins when the queen change happened, but have been on losing streaks since.
On November 02 2012 04:48 Fionn wrote: Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
...If Prime loses, they should disband.
Yep, they should disband cuz they don't have patchzergs like TSL, :D
Fnatic Zergs are like 3-17 in their last 20 games or something like that. Moon/Byul got some big wins when the queen change happened, but have been on losing streaks since.
ByuL has improved consistently though, while Moon didnt in the slightest. At least ByuL`s strong ZvT could get fnatic their only points in this matchup. (note, that ByuL defeated MKP in some recent tournament which J took home I believe lol)
Without Oz, their KeSPa vs GOM Show Man, I cant see fnatic taking this home, and they would drop out last in this group (which isnt a shame at all looking at those names in here, and Liquid or EG would most likely share the same fate)
On November 02 2012 04:48 Fionn wrote: Byul and Moon are 2-11 since their little breakouts last season when patchzerg was at full blast. Oz is in America. Alive failed in the Up/Downs and is doing terribly in NASL. Rain is statistically the best player this season for Fnatic.
...If Prime loses, they should disband.
I totally agree. This is an absolute must-win for prime. Maru and Byun didn't show the greatest form lately, but so has every Fnatic player! If this goes wrong, everything has to be questioned in the team!
On November 02 2012 16:54 Fragile51 wrote: If prime loses this i'll be very sad. And shellshock will probably pm spam me asking how mad i am :< please don't do that to me prime
Is this arch-enemy stuff still going on? I thought we were all friends now.
On November 02 2012 16:54 Fragile51 wrote: If prime loses this i'll be very sad. And shellshock will probably pm spam me asking how mad i am :< please don't do that to me prime
On November 02 2012 16:54 Fragile51 wrote: If prime loses this i'll be very sad. And shellshock will probably pm spam me asking how mad i am :< please don't do that to me prime
My hatred for Ice Cream cannot be expressed in words.
Anyway, for the match itself, this is one of those matches where it's an upset if Fnatic takes more than 2 maps. Expecting fairly unimpressive play today, but, would love to be proved wrong.
On November 02 2012 18:17 Fionn wrote: Didn't Ares move to Team MJ with BboongBboong?
There was a player named Ares on the roster of MJ but no one ever confirmed if it was the same guy; although, you can probably assume there arent many players named Ares in Korea so it's probably him.
On November 02 2012 18:17 Fionn wrote: Didn't Ares move to Team MJ with BboongBboong?
There was a player named Ares on the roster of MJ but no one ever confirmed if it was the same guy; although, you can probably assume there arent many players named Ares in Korea so it's probably him.
No the post mentioned explicitely that it was the former fnatic player.
On November 02 2012 18:17 Fionn wrote: Didn't Ares move to Team MJ with BboongBboong?
There was a player named Ares on the roster of MJ but no one ever confirmed if it was the same guy; although, you can probably assume there arent many players named Ares in Korea so it's probably him.
No the post mentioned explicitely that it was the former fnatic player.
oh my bad. I guess I remembered incorrectly. I will update op then
I had thought Terius left Prime and/or even retired. Pretty glad to see him there, I always liked watching his games when they fleshed out the way you could tell he had planned for them to go.
On November 02 2012 18:22 keeperton wrote: I had thought Terius left Prime and/or even retired. Pretty glad to see him there, I always liked watching his games when they fleshed out the way you could tell he had planned for them to go.
He did leave and he did pretty much vanish off of the face of the earth after losing to scarlett, but appearantly he made his return. Which is good, i kinda liked bumblebee.
Fun fact: J has lost 12 straight games in the GS(T)L. I'm pretty sure that's the worst losing streak in GS(T)L history. His last win was against HongUn 2-1 in November Code A of 2011.
He's won only two series in his career. Once against HongUn...and the other against Creator.
Edit: Byun lost to TOP. Losira beat Supernova in the season 2 Code A finals.
On November 02 2012 18:23 Fionn wrote: Fun fact: J has lost 12 straight games in the GS(T)L. I'm pretty sure that's the worst losing streak in GS(T)L history. His last win was against HongUn 2-1 in November Code A of 2011.
He's won only two series in his career. Once against HongUn...and the other against Creator.
Edit: Byun lost to TOP. Losira beat Supernova in the season 2 Code A finals.
It's just buildup for the Moon all-kill, when will you learn?
On November 02 2012 18:23 Fionn wrote: Fun fact: J has lost 12 straight games in the GS(T)L. I'm pretty sure that's the worst losing streak in GS(T)L history. His last win was against HongUn 2-1 in November Code A of 2011.
He's won only two series in his career. Once against HongUn...and the other against Creator.
Edit: Byun lost to TOP. Losira beat Supernova in the season 2 Code A finals.
I miss when Code A had a finals, they should just tack a finals on the end of their current Code A format. Maybe like after the ro24, the ro12 and ro6 could be bo1s just to get it over with quickly, and then you'd have 3 players left. I guess do it as a group, top 2 go to the Code A finals? lol idk
On November 02 2012 18:23 Fionn wrote: Fun fact: J has lost 12 straight games in the GS(T)L. I'm pretty sure that's the worst losing streak in GS(T)L history. His last win was against HongUn 2-1 in November Code A of 2011.
He's won only two series in his career. Once against HongUn...and the other against Creator.
Edit: Byun lost to TOP. Losira beat Supernova in the season 2 Code A finals.
All just a way to lull the other team into a false sense of security.
Wasn't luvsic one of the guys to pioneer baneling drops in ZvP? Or was that jookto
On November 02 2012 18:31 Dodgin wrote: 170 supply byun to 130 J
okay.
The skill difference between byun (Top tier TvZ and can be a top 5 terran) and luvisc (Who may one day have to potential to take a map... maybe...if he lucks out... against IMhorror.)
On November 02 2012 18:33 Fragile51 wrote: I like how everyone is talking about stats and all but hows the game coming along? I take it J is losing miserably? D:
J just killed byun's army byun didn't even try to micro, byun still 30+ more supply than him
On November 02 2012 18:33 Fragile51 wrote: I like how everyone is talking about stats and all but hows the game coming along? I take it J is losing miserably? D:
Byun up 50 supply with better upgrades 3 base terran vs 4 base zerg ultras on the way vs marine tank make that 4 base vs 4 base now
On November 02 2012 18:33 Fragile51 wrote: I like how everyone is talking about stats and all but hows the game coming along? I take it J is losing miserably? D:
Damnnnnnnnnnn Byun played such a good game there. Seeing those lings sneaking by the side at the start of the game just really set the tone. Just 8 hellions sitting there as zerglings run into it :D
Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
On November 02 2012 18:40 Wombat_NI wrote: It kind of blows my mind that some players show games like that, frequently and Sting the 'practice partner Bonjwa' is still teamless
Sting, ManZenith and SlayerS is up for grabs fnatic should grab one of them.
On November 02 2012 18:41 sicueft wrote: Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
On November 02 2012 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: I would do LR but after those inflammatory remarks made by Fagile51 earlier in the thread and seeing as he's the one that needs it, I'm not sure :O
On November 02 2012 18:40 Wombat_NI wrote: It kind of blows my mind that some players show games like that, frequently and Sting the 'practice partner Bonjwa' is still teamless
Sting, ManZenith and SlayerS is up for grabs fnatic should grab one of them.
Also, can't forget ex-Zenex Cutter, a guy that ripped would certainly add some physical intimidation to the GSTL environment, psychologically potentially sabotaging opposing teams.
Also shit, Man Zenith is teamless? Thought he was still on one, and he did decently enough to get into the inaugural OSL.
Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
On November 02 2012 18:41 sicueft wrote: Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
Also he might not be comfortable on a map that big - the rushes he's used to might not work and it's harder to defend all these bases (hence the useless mutas?). Also, Byun effectively played perfectly and lost nothing (didn't even sacrifice hellions) while J spent about 15 drones making useless lings earlier on and also went mutas that forced ~5 turrets? All those little advantages just compounded into Byun rolling it.
On November 02 2012 18:40 Wombat_NI wrote: It kind of blows my mind that some players show games like that, frequently and Sting the 'practice partner Bonjwa' is still teamless
Sting, ManZenith and SlayerS is up for grabs fnatic should grab one of them.
Also, can't forget ex-Zenex Cutter, a guy that ripped would certainly add some physical intimidation to the GSTL environment, psychologically potentially sabotaging opposing teams.
Also shit, Man Zenith is teamless? Thought he was still on one, and he did decently enough to get into the inaugural OSL.
San left, I don't think he'll join fnatic now that I think about it he really wants to leave Korea for some reason presumably to join violet in chanting "USA USA USA" he's at MLG Dallas by winning a qualifier.
On November 02 2012 18:41 sicueft wrote: Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
Also he might not be comfortable on a map that big - the rushes he's used to might not work and it's harder to defend all these bases (hence the useless mutas?). Also, Byun effectively played perfectly and lost nothing (didn't even sacrifice hellions) while J spent about 15 drones making useless lings earlier on and also went mutas that forced ~5 turrets? All those little advantages just compounded into Byun rolling it.
This wasn't turtle zerg into fast hive...
I think the only maps he would be comfortable on are the novice maps, if played on normal speed
On November 02 2012 18:41 sicueft wrote: Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
Also he might not be comfortable on a map that big - the rushes he's used to might not work and it's harder to defend all these bases (hence the useless mutas?). Also, Byun effectively played perfectly and lost nothing (didn't even sacrifice hellions) while J spent about 15 drones making useless lings earlier on and also went mutas that forced ~5 turrets? All those little advantages just compounded into Byun rolling it.
This wasn't turtle zerg into fast hive...
The mutas were basically useless. There was basically no return in his 600+ gas investment. Then a complete tech switch to infestor ultra on 3 base... Zerg economy isn't supposed to work like that, right?
On November 02 2012 18:41 sicueft wrote: Luvsic looks so weak against terran. No harrass and couldn't keep Terran to just 2 bases. Byun prepared for the lategame super early and this might just be the answer to what a lot of turtling Zergs have been doing lately.
Also he might not be comfortable on a map that big - the rushes he's used to might not work and it's harder to defend all these bases (hence the useless mutas?). Also, Byun effectively played perfectly and lost nothing (didn't even sacrifice hellions) while J spent about 15 drones making useless lings earlier on and also went mutas that forced ~5 turrets? All those little advantages just compounded into Byun rolling it.
This wasn't turtle zerg into fast hive...
The mutas were basically useless. There was basically no return in his 600+ gas investment. Then a complete tech switch to infestor ultra on 3 base... Zerg economy isn't supposed to work like that, right?
Didn't we say the same thing anyway hope Moon fighting!!! Anyone know the map?
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
On November 02 2012 18:48 stephenrau wrote: Has anyone said all-kill yet? Byun deserves a big result.
Byun can easily all-kill that said with regards to big result he should have won GSL 3, in my (Incredibly biased byun fanboy) opinion he was the best player that season right up until he fucking choked those 2 games against seed he could have beaten DRG or MC in the finals easily but he had to choke his best shot at a championship like that -_-.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
On November 02 2012 18:48 stephenrau wrote: Has anyone said all-kill yet? Byun deserves a big result.
Byun can easily all-kill that said with regards to big result he should have won GSL 3, in my (Incredibly biased byun fanboy) opinion he was the best player that season right up until he fucking choked those 2 games against seed he could have beaten DRG or MC in the finals easily but he had to choke his best shot at a championship like that -_-.
I was (or am) a big fan of his based on his GhostKing id and when he used to stream cool stuff like mech vs Protoss. I also thought he was the best player of GSL season 3 (over Artosis hype of Symbol). He had such great form and his tank play vs Protoss was so unique.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Brown really should be a must have for any team who wants to make it big in the GSTL, he's essentially enough a get rid of a zerg card if their team's ace is a zerg or there's a zerg on a hot streak you can send out brown for an instant snipe.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Brown really should be a must have for any team who wants to make it big in the GSTL, he's essentially enough a get rid of a zerg card if their team's ace is a zerg or there's a zerg on a hot streak you can send out brown for an instant snipe.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Brown really should be a must have for any team who wants to make it big in the GSTL, he's essentially enough a get rid of a zerg card if their team's ace is a zerg or there's a zerg on a hot streak you can send out brown for an instant snipe.
to be honest brown is not quite that good, haha
He's good as a zerg one shot card, he'll instantly lose to a terran but he's still good for a quick PvZ snipe besides he's in iron squid he's got a decent resume to be worth grabbing.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Brown really should be a must have for any team who wants to make it big in the GSTL, he's essentially enough a get rid of a zerg card if their team's ace is a zerg or there's a zerg on a hot streak you can send out brown for an instant snipe.
to be honest brown is not quite that good, haha
He's good as a zerg one shot card, he'll instantly lose to a terran but he's still good for a quick PvZ snipe besides he's in iron squid he's got a decent resume to be worth grabbing.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Brown really should be a must have for any team who wants to make it big in the GSTL, he's essentially enough a get rid of a zerg card if their team's ace is a zerg or there's a zerg on a hot streak you can send out brown for an instant snipe.
to be honest brown is not quite that good, haha
He's good as a zerg one shot card, he'll instantly lose to a terran but he's still good for a quick PvZ snipe besides he's in iron squid he's got a decent resume to be worth grabbing.
FnaticJ is in iron squid too
Yeah but brown beat yonghwa, best protoss ever just ask artosis.
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
fnatic is a top tier organisation, top 1 CS in the world, top 3 LoL in Europe
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
fnatic is a top tier organisation, top 1 CS in the world, top 3 LoL in Europe
no further explanation necessary...
...Well i beg to differ :p because nothing you just said makes any sense regarding the subject at hand..
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Moon vs ByuN Game 2 Score 0 - 1 Map: Daybreak
0:00 Moon spawns in the top right ByuN spawns in the bottom left
1:45 Rax first for ByuN
2:00 Hatch first for Moon quick drone scout from Moon gets into Byun's main and scouts no gas Pool from Moon
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN
4:00 3rd CC started for ByuN inside his main double gas for ByuN
5:00 Bunker started at the natural for ByuN Factory started for ByuN Reactor for ByuN
6:00 3rd base for Moon double ebay from ByuN double gas for Moon Reactored hellion production starts for Byun 1-1 starts for Byun tech lab started on the rax of Byun double evo chamber for Moon Moon goes up to 4 gas
7:00 Ling speed started for Moon Stim research started for Byun 1-1 ling upgrades started for Moon 2 more rax for ByuN
8:00 Byun attacks dustin browder in order to hit tumors with aoe 2 more rax on top of the others for Byun (5 rax) armory for ByuN baneling nest and Lair started for Moon
9:00 Starport started for ByuN ByuN goes up to 8 hellions factory switched for Tech lab Byun lands his 3rd base 2-2 started for ByuN's bio
10:00 Moon pumping out a bunhc of lings Macro hatch on the way for Moon double medivac production started for Byun Spire started for Moon baneling speed started for Moon Siege tank production started for ByuN combat shields started for Byun
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
fnatic is a top tier organisation, top 1 CS in the world, top 3 LoL in Europe
no further explanation necessary...
Their LoL team has not been Top 3 in Europe for some time. M5, CLG.eu, SK, Curse.eu and arguably Eclypsia, Alternate and Mousesports are better.
Normally byun heads straight to the late game and tearing apart late game zergs by being better than them. Today byun doesn't even need to reach his comfort zone.
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Moon vs ByuN Game 2 Score 0 - 1 Map: Daybreak
0:00 Moon spawns in the top right ByuN spawns in the bottom left
1:45 Rax first for ByuN
2:00 Hatch first for Moon quick drone scout from Moon gets into Byun's main and scouts no gas Pool from Moon
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN
4:00 3rd CC started for ByuN inside his main double gas for ByuN
5:00 Bunker started at the natural for ByuN Factory started for ByuN Reactor for ByuN
6:00 3rd base for Moon double ebay from ByuN double gas for Moon Reactored hellion production starts for Byun 1-1 starts for Byun tech lab started on the rax of Byun double evo chamber for Moon Moon goes up to 4 gas
7:00 Ling speed started for Moon Stim research started for Byun 1-1 ling upgrades started for Moon 2 more rax for ByuN
8:00 Byun attacks dustin browder in order to hit tumors with aoe 2 more rax on top of the others for Byun (5 rax) armory for ByuN baneling nest and Lair started for Moon
9:00 Starport started for ByuN ByuN goes up to 8 hellions factory switched for Tech lab Byun lands his 3rd base 2-2 started for ByuN's bio
10:00 Moon pumping out a bunhc of lings Macro hatch on the way for Moon double medivac production started for Byun Spire started for Moon baneling speed started for Moon Siege tank production started for ByuN combat shields started for Byun
11:00 moon attempts a huge ling runby but the lings are deflected by a large group of marines 2-2 ling upgrades started for Moon +1 vehicle weapons started for Byun siege mode research started for ByuN lings get sandwiched between marines and hellions
12:00 Muta production stated for Moon Moon takes a 4th base in the bottom right 16 Mutas coming out for moon lings and banelings force a lift from Byun as he tried to push with a 2-2 timing
13:00 +1 air attack started for Moon 2nd factory finishing up for Byun 4 more rax added on for ByuN +3 attack started for ByuN Moon morphing ~30 banelings in the middle of the map infestation pit started for Moon Moon attacking into the 3rd of ByuN
14:00 drop at the 4th of Moon ByuN loses a ton of scvs at his 3rd Mutas are attacking the CC drop in the main of Moon the 4th of Moon dies Mutas of moon engage the marines of Byun and he loses a lot Lings force a lift on the drop in the main
15:00 double drop in the natural of moon but Lings force them out redrop in the main of moon drop in the 3rd of Moon Mutas clean up the drop in the main drop in the natural is finally cleaned up drop at the 3rd gets away 25 drones died
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
fnatic is a top tier organisation, top 1 CS in the world, top 3 LoL in Europe
no further explanation necessary...
...Well i beg to differ :p because nothing you just said makes any sense regarding the subject at hand..
just saying they made the wrong pickups
then again I dont care, just saying, they wasted lots of potential building an powerful SC2 team.
Moon's push into the 3rd may have been scary, but Byun's two drops did tons of damage, sniping a 4th and tons of Drones while Moon loses way too many Mutas against Marines.
On November 02 2012 19:04 Dodgin wrote: I forgot the MvP invitational finals were earlier today, and shit, a SKT zerg won the tournament.
this new world is scary.
Woah, SoO making moves it seems. Was it played in Dallas?
Can I spam this thread.. in my esteemed opinion (having watched fpvods like a fanboy) soO is the #1 kespa zerg, maybe #2 kespa player, and should be top 5 MLG.. or at least I hope so since he has no shot in GSL right now.. he's looking amazing.
(also no i'm fairly certain all games from replay)
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Moon vs ByuN Game 2 Score 0 - 1 Map: Daybreak
0:00 Moon spawns in the top right ByuN spawns in the bottom left
1:45 Rax first for ByuN
2:00 Hatch first for Moon quick drone scout from Moon gets into Byun's main and scouts no gas Pool from Moon
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN
4:00 3rd CC started for ByuN inside his main double gas for ByuN
5:00 Bunker started at the natural for ByuN Factory started for ByuN Reactor for ByuN
6:00 3rd base for Moon double ebay from ByuN double gas for Moon Reactored hellion production starts for Byun 1-1 starts for Byun tech lab started on the rax of Byun double evo chamber for Moon Moon goes up to 4 gas
7:00 Ling speed started for Moon Stim research started for Byun 1-1 ling upgrades started for Moon 2 more rax for ByuN
8:00 Byun attacks dustin browder in order to hit tumors with aoe 2 more rax on top of the others for Byun (5 rax) armory for ByuN baneling nest and Lair started for Moon
9:00 Starport started for ByuN ByuN goes up to 8 hellions factory switched for Tech lab Byun lands his 3rd base 2-2 started for ByuN's bio
10:00 Moon pumping out a bunhc of lings Macro hatch on the way for Moon double medivac production started for Byun Spire started for Moon baneling speed started for Moon Siege tank production started for ByuN combat shields started for Byun
11:00 moon attempts a huge ling runby but the lings are deflected by a large group of marines 2-2 ling upgrades started for Moon +1 vehicle weapons started for Byun siege mode research started for ByuN lings get sandwiched between marines and hellions
12:00 Muta production stated for Moon Moon takes a 4th base in the bottom right 16 Mutas coming out for moon lings and banelings force a lift from Byun as he tried to push with a 2-2 timing
13:00 +1 air attack started for Moon 2nd factory finishing up for Byun 4 more rax added on for ByuN +3 attack started for ByuN Moon morphing ~30 banelings in the middle of the map infestation pit started for Moon Moon attacking into the 3rd of ByuN
14:00 drop at the 4th of Moon ByuN loses a ton of scvs at his 3rd Mutas are attacking the CC drop in the main of Moon the 4th of Moon dies Mutas of moon engage the marines of Byun and he loses a lot Lings force a lift on the drop in the main
15:00 double drop in the natural of moon but Lings force them out redrop in the main of moon drop in the 3rd of Moon Mutas clean up the drop in the main drop in the natural is finally cleaned up drop at the 3rd gets away 25 drones died
16:00 Mutas of Moon engage Byun's marines again and 5 die instantly 5th base of Moon falls drop at the natural of Moon +3 armor started for Byun pathogen glands started for Byun Byun way up in supply Moon goes in for a baneling attack Byun splits but Moon is able to clean it up except 3 marines and some medivacs
17:00 Reinforcements for Byun arrive drop in the main of Moon Moon is down 70 supply more mutas die to marines 4th base of Byun finishes drop at the 3rd of Moon Byun pushing the natural of Moon and just streaming in reinforcements
18:00 Byun up 100 supply Moon cant stop the drop at his 3rd Natural hatch of Moon falls to marines 2 more CCs started for Byun Moon is down to 30 supply vs 180 3rd base of Moon falls Hive half way done for Moon in case you wanted to know Moon ggs! ByuN wins and puts Prime up 2-0!
Don't understand these zerg players - why flip coins and sacrifice mutas when there is a good and strong alterantive - turtle to BL/corrupter/infestor. These weak zerg players are holding back zerg nerfs
On November 02 2012 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Yeah, it's crazy how J can be on a team, and get to be sent out every single GSTL match, while ManZenith has no team, Sting has no team, etc. >_> Both of those are a billion times better than J, and really just better than a ton of players out there.
imho, fnatic should pick up Dark and Brown from Zombie Slayers, and get rid of Luvsic and Harstem...
Get rid of Harstem wtf? He is an academy player who is improving decently as of late.
Also he's dutch and fnatics team jersey is orange so that just goes together so naturally.
hes still very bad. fnatic wants to compete in GSTL so they need players like Dark and Brown
Harstem is in Europe...the hell are you on about? Why would they boot a (reasonably newly acquired) academy player for such a reason?
fnatic is a top tier organisation, top 1 CS in the world, top 3 LoL in Europe
no further explanation necessary...
Their LoL team has not been Top 3 in Europe for some time. M5, CLG.eu, SK, Curse.eu and arguably Eclypsia, Alternate and Mousesports are better.
fnatic regularly beats SK, Curse, Eclypsia, Alternate and mousesports
If rain loses here, who does fnatic have left to play against prime? With oz gone and moon already out i don't really think they have a hope in hell :o
EDIT:
Byul, right. Well he's kinda scary. Once he's out of the way there's no way prime will lose though.
On November 02 2012 19:17 Fragile51 wrote: If rain loses here, who does fnatic have left to play against prime? With oz gone and moon already out i don't really think they have a hope in hell :o
On November 02 2012 19:17 Fragile51 wrote: If rain loses here, who does fnatic have left to play against prime? With oz gone and moon already out i don't really think they have a hope in hell :o
alive RAK
oh right
totally forgot about the pug terran, for some reason i thought he was at MLG D:
On November 02 2012 19:17 Fragile51 wrote: If rain loses here, who does fnatic have left to play against prime? With oz gone and moon already out i don't really think they have a hope in hell :o
EDIT:
Byul, right. Well he's kinda scary. Once he's out of the way there's no way prime will lose though.
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Rain vs ByuN Game 3 Score: 0-2 Map: Ohana
0:00 Rain spawns in the top left ByuN spawns in the bottom right
1:45 Rax first for both players
2:00 gas for Rain
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN reactor on the rax for Rain
4:00 CC on the low ground from Rain 2 more rax from ByuN Factory for Rain double gas for ByuN
5:00 tech lab for ByuN Factory switched to reactor for Rain, double hellion production started Combat shields started for ByuN Bunker started at the natural for ByuN ByuN started to wall off his natural 3rd CC started for Rain
On November 02 2012 19:17 Fragile51 wrote: If rain loses here, who does fnatic have left to play against prime? With oz gone and moon already out i don't really think they have a hope in hell :o
EDIT:
Byul, right. Well he's kinda scary. Once he's out of the way there's no way prime will lose though.
On November 02 2012 19:20 Fionn wrote: So Rain dodged Code S because he was afraid of Hyun, right? Only reason he'd drop out of Code S and then show up the next day to play in GSTL.
I hope for the reverse Rain troll tomorrow in the MLG thread!!
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Rain vs ByuN Game 3 Score: 0-2 Map: Ohana
0:00 Rain spawns in the top left ByuN spawns in the bottom right
1:45 Rax first for both players
2:00 gas for Rain
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN reactor on the rax for Rain
4:00 CC on the low ground from Rain 2 more rax from ByuN Factory for Rain double gas for ByuN
5:00 tech lab for ByuN Factory switched to reactor for Rain, double hellion production started Combat shields started for ByuN Bunker started at the natural for ByuN ByuN started to wall off his natural 3rd CC started for Rain
6:00 ebay started for ByuN Starport started for Rain Factory startedf or ByuN 2 reactors on the rax for ByuN
7:00 +1 attack started for ByuN Rain looking to pressure the front but he scouts the bunker Raven started for Rain 3rd CC started for ByuN Stim started for ByuN 2nd factory started for Rain
8:00 Starport started for ByuN 3rd Factory started for Rain Rain lands his 3rd base
9:00 Blue flame research started for Rain double medivac production started for ByuN Marauders started for ByuN Rain now making vikings from his starport ByuN breaking down the rocks to his 3rd base +1 armor started for ByuN Byun adding on 2 more rax ByuN pushes out with his first 2 medivacs
10:00 Hellions of Rain engage the marine heavy army of ByuN and kill off a lot of forces Siege mode research started for Rain double siege tank production started for Rain Concussive shells started for ByuN
On November 02 2012 19:11 Azzur wrote: Don't understand these zerg players - why flip coins and sacrifice mutas when there is a good and strong alterantive - turtle to BL/corrupter/infestor. These weak zerg players are holding back zerg nerfs
Blizzard needs to fix the gameplay in HOTS. There's no reason a race is should be strong at certain points of the game and weak at others. It makes for uninspiring play and stagnant games. Most Terran games now become ticking timebomb scenarios where you have to kill P/Z before the lategame or else you lose because your T2/T3 units aren't cost efficient and build too slow to compete with the other races production.
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Rain vs ByuN Game 3 Score: 0-2 Map: Ohana
0:00 Rain spawns in the top left ByuN spawns in the bottom right
1:45 Rax first for both players
2:00 gas for Rain
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN reactor on the rax for Rain
4:00 CC on the low ground from Rain 2 more rax from ByuN Factory for Rain double gas for ByuN
5:00 tech lab for ByuN Factory switched to reactor for Rain, double hellion production started Combat shields started for ByuN Bunker started at the natural for ByuN ByuN started to wall off his natural 3rd CC started for Rain
6:00 ebay started for ByuN Starport started for Rain Factory startedf or ByuN 2 reactors on the rax for ByuN
7:00 +1 attack started for ByuN Rain looking to pressure the front but he scouts the bunker Raven started for Rain 3rd CC started for ByuN Stim started for ByuN 2nd factory started for Rain
8:00 Starport started for ByuN 3rd Factory started for Rain Rain lands his 3rd base
9:00 Blue flame research started for Rain double medivac production started for ByuN Marauders started for ByuN Rain now making vikings from his starport ByuN breaking down the rocks to his 3rd base +1 armor started for ByuN Byun adding on 2 more rax ByuN pushes out with his first 2 medivacs
10:00 Hellions of Rain engage the marine heavy army of ByuN and kill off a lot of forces Siege mode research started for Rain double siege tank production started for Rain Concussive shells started for ByuN
11:00 ByuN still trying to move across the map but blue flame is done now so the hellions are still stalling him Rain adding on 2 more factories 4th base started for ByuN tank production started for Byun siege mode research started for ByuN armory and 2nd ebay finishes for ByuN
12:00 +1 mech weapons started for Rain +2 attack started for Byun ByuN adding on more rax turret ring going up for Rain
13:00 Siege tank blocks the choke from the high ground into the 3rd Byun flanks and takes out all the hellions of Rain on the high ground base area +1 mech armor is also on the way for Rain +1 mech weapons starte dfor ByuN 4th CC started for Rain
14:00 5th CC started for ByuN ByuN lands his 4th base on the right side of the map Hellion runby into the 3rd of ByuN with 2 hellions ByuN pulls al his scvs off the line ByuN has to come home with some forces 5th base of ByuN moved to the high ground base on the left side
15:00 6th CC started for ByuN +3 attack started for ByuN; +2 armor almost finished 2-2 mech upgrades started for Rain Byun is maxed, Rain at 165 supply
On November 02 2012 19:27 Lorning wrote: erik lonnquist @ggDoA MKP fangirls sharing pictures of him from their phones with each other in the row in front of me. Esports?
On November 02 2012 19:27 Lorning wrote: erik lonnquist @ggDoA MKP fangirls sharing pictures of him from their phones with each other in the row in front of me. Esports?
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime Rain vs ByuN Game 3 Score: 0-2 Map: Ohana
0:00 Rain spawns in the top left ByuN spawns in the bottom right
1:45 Rax first for both players
2:00 gas for Rain
3:00 CC on the low ground from ByuN reactor on the rax for Rain
4:00 CC on the low ground from Rain 2 more rax from ByuN Factory for Rain double gas for ByuN
5:00 tech lab for ByuN Factory switched to reactor for Rain, double hellion production started Combat shields started for ByuN Bunker started at the natural for ByuN ByuN started to wall off his natural 3rd CC started for Rain
6:00 ebay started for ByuN Starport started for Rain Factory startedf or ByuN 2 reactors on the rax for ByuN
7:00 +1 attack started for ByuN Rain looking to pressure the front but he scouts the bunker Raven started for Rain 3rd CC started for ByuN Stim started for ByuN 2nd factory started for Rain
8:00 Starport started for ByuN 3rd Factory started for Rain Rain lands his 3rd base
9:00 Blue flame research started for Rain double medivac production started for ByuN Marauders started for ByuN Rain now making vikings from his starport ByuN breaking down the rocks to his 3rd base +1 armor started for ByuN Byun adding on 2 more rax ByuN pushes out with his first 2 medivacs
10:00 Hellions of Rain engage the marine heavy army of ByuN and kill off a lot of forces Siege mode research started for Rain double siege tank production started for Rain Concussive shells started for ByuN
11:00 ByuN still trying to move across the map but blue flame is done now so the hellions are still stalling him Rain adding on 2 more factories 4th base started for ByuN tank production started for Byun siege mode research started for ByuN armory and 2nd ebay finishes for ByuN
12:00 +1 mech weapons started for Rain +2 attack started for Byun ByuN adding on more rax turret ring going up for Rain
13:00 Siege tank blocks the choke from the high ground into the 3rd Byun flanks and takes out all the hellions of Rain on the high ground base area +1 mech armor is also on the way for Rain +1 mech weapons starte dfor ByuN 4th CC started for Rain
14:00 5th CC started for ByuN ByuN lands his 4th base on the right side of the map Hellion runby into the 3rd of ByuN with 2 hellions ByuN pulls al his scvs off the line ByuN has to come home with some forces 5th base of ByuN moved to the high ground base on the left side
15:00 6th CC started for ByuN +3 attack started for ByuN; +2 armor almost finished 2-2 mech upgrades started for Rain Byun is maxed, Rain at 165 supply
16:00 Byun picks off 6 tanks for free on the right side of the map because Rain was unsieged +3 armor started for Byun +2 mech weapons started for ByuN Triple drop in the main of Rain 2 tanks in the main fall right away
17:00 2 more tanks come out of the factory PDD goes down to save them Tank marauder force pushes into the 3rd of Rain and engages part of his army Rain is able to clean up the small force at his 3rd
18:00 Rain trying to float out his 4th base to the high ground Small bio force of ByuN at the 4th of Rain kills 3 more tanks 3-3 mech upgrades started for Rain
19:00 double drop on top of the tanks at Rain's 4th kills even more because the vikings were out of position Planetary morphing at Rain's 4th Marauders and siege tank try to kill it but Rain saves it in the deep red with repair Rain cleans up the small force at his 4th
20:00 ByuN splits up his forces into 2 groups and pushes into Rain's natural ramp area ByuN takes out almost all of the tanks before Rain can hold it off 5 more tanks fall to Byun's reinforcements Byun just streaming units across the map
21:00 Rain ggs! Byun wins and gives Prime a 3 game lead!
I love how he constantly pressured the 4th and managed to pick off quite a few Tanks in the process while simultaneously positioning on the left with a different group of units.
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
Why are fnatic playing so standard? Take som risks, do some wonky builds, all ins, whatever you need to. The will NEVER win against prime playing standard games like this.
If Rain would have made 2 more ravens instead of 20 Vikings which were mostly useless he could have traded so much better in all the little fights. Instead most of his tanks died to Marauders before the siege animation was finished.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
PuMa stopped being good when he started to practice at the SlayerS house.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote: People forget how big Puma was.
We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.
Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.
Then again the circumstances under which he left TSL were very very controversial and drama-filled, that's going to spring up a couple hundred pages of discussion and turd-flinging.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
It's so weird when you think about it, but actually EG hasn't really marketed their best performing players very well. :/ Huk was similarly good, and actually does well this year, with a 4th and 3rd place at MLGs. But he just isn't out there, he seems to be totally under the radar and mostly attends MLG without any hype.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Skin care, and there's where Prime(r) comes in. PrimePuma calling it now.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Also JYP is the voice of korea, so that helps too. Puma is "that terran with the weird hair colors"
You're welcome. I just googled it a few minutes earlier because I really liked the tune. GSL manages to introduce me to a handful of great songs every season.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
JYP used to stream a bit (mainly when he stayed at the liar ages ago) and he was super funny and interacted with his viewers heaps
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Also JYP is the voice of korea, so that helps too. Puma is "that terran with the weird hair colors"
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Also JYP is the voice of korea, so that helps too. Puma is "that terran with the weird hair colors"
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Also JYP is the voice of korea, so that helps too. Puma is "that terran with the weird hair colors"
Puma can secure a hair company as a sponsor.
Puma should've marketed his 1-1-1s, making witty comments in interviews to earn himself some nicknames and memes.
I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote: I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.
If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.
What do you mean by do more with Puma?
he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Also JYP is the voice of korea, so that helps too. Puma is "that terran with the weird hair colors"
Puma is also famous for his bad manner, haha, apparantly he's not very good with Korean manners.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
They're going to have MMA memorize all the sponsors and say them in English during interviews at foreign events and star in a Kingston commercial.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Not only that, but to be honest, MMA is tainted. There's no way around it.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Outside Incontrol/Idra which players have ever been marketed really well based on actually achieving results.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Not only that, but to be honest, MMA is tainted. There's no way around it.
So is idra lol, EG doesn't care. In fact i'd say it helps their brand.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Not only that, but to be honest, MMA is tainted. There's no way around it.
tainted in the Korean scene maybe, I don't think most foreigners care.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Outside Incontrol/Idra which players have ever been marketed really well based on actually achieving results.
Huk, ThorZaIN and Stephano were all really good picksup :o
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Was he actually one of the best Koreans? From what I remember, even when he was doing well (last year), he was only doing well at International tournaments.. at that time not many koreans went to them. And he always struggled vs better koreans when he met them in tournaments (except maybe Hero)
Now granted, I didn't follow the scene as closely as I do now, so I'm not a credible person.
On November 02 2012 19:41 Waxangel wrote: I'm just saying, EG had one of the best Koreans you could ever get on their team, and they didn't really market him all that well.
So if they're really going after MMA, a player who probably won't ever achieve as much as PuMa at this point in his career, I wonder what their reasoning/new plan could be.
Outside Incontrol/Idra which players have ever been marketed really well based on actually achieving results.
Huk, ThorZaIN and Stephano were all really good picksup :o
Yea of course but they don't market them well at all imo, just get them to list sponsors and get more twitter followers. Very few interviews/videos/merchandise.
EG do the best job but still so many areas they could improve.
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime ByuL vs ByuN Game 4 Score: 0-3 Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ByuL spawns in the top right ByuN spawns in the bottom left
1:00 10 pool for ByuL proxy 11-12 from ByuN on the right side of the map double extractor trick for ByuL
2:00 lings are out for ByuL scv of ByuN scouts the lings Hatch for ByuL
3:00 lings of ByuL find the double proxy rax of ByuN ByuL camping the rax of ByuN
4:00 ByuN tries to get the best trade possible by kiting marines of byun cleaned up byun lifts up his rax lings run towards byun's base Byun just lands his rax again after repositioning supply depot wall off from ByuN 3rd rax on the way for ByuN
5:00 gas for ByuL queen chases he 4 marines of ByuN back byul's lings attacking the wall of Byun forcing constant repair CC started for ByuN
6:00 Marine spawns in the main of Byun and chases the lings away queens are able to defend the natural forcing ByuN's marines back ling speed started for ByuL 23 workers for both players
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime ByuL vs ByuN Game 4 Score: 0-3 Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ByuL spawns in the top right ByuN spawns in the bottom left
1:00 10 pool for ByuL proxy 11-12 from ByuN on the right side of the map double extractor trick for ByuL
2:00 lings are out for ByuL scv of ByuN scouts the lings Hatch for ByuL
3:00 lings of ByuL find the double proxy rax of ByuN ByuL camping the rax of ByuN
4:00 ByuN tries to get the best trade possible by kiting marines of byun cleaned up byun lifts up his rax lings run towards byun's base Byun just lands his rax again after repositioning supply depot wall off from ByuN 3rd rax on the way for ByuN
5:00 gas for ByuL queen chases he 4 marines of ByuN back byul's lings attacking the wall of Byun forcing constant repair CC started for ByuN
6:00 Marine spawns in the main of Byun and chases the lings away queens are able to defend the natural forcing ByuN's marines back ling speed started for ByuL 23 workers for both players
7:00 ByuN pulls a ton of his scvs 16 lings on the way for Byul baneling nest on the way
8:00 Rain arrives at the natural Byul abandons his natural Byun pushes into the main Byun kills 3 overlords severely supply blocking byul 2 bunkers started in the main baneling nest forced to cancel Byun takes great position between the 2 bunkers
9:00 Byul is barely able to hold it off with queens and drones and ling reinforcements Byun ggs! ByuL wins and gives fnatic their first win!
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime ByuL vs Maru Game 5 Score: 1-3 Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 ByuL spawns in the bottom right Maru spawns in the top left
1:45 double proxy rax from Maru (12-14) -- not too far forward. still on Maru's half but close to the center
2:00 Hatch first for ByuL gas for ByuL Pool for ByuL
3:00 Maru supply blocked Bunker started in the natural of ByuL 2nd bunker on the low ground walling in the first marine near the ramp ling speed started for ByuL
4:00 10 lings on the way both bunker finish 3rd Bunker started for Maru 4 lings on the map trying to catch reinforcements but both get through Maru grouping up his reinforcements now
5:00 ByuL scouts the rax location with his watchtower but he cant do anything about it 3rd bunker finishes (2 in range of hatch) Natural hatchery of Byul dies 4th bunker in the natural started for Maru double gas for Maru CC on the way for Maru
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime ByuL vs Maru Game 5 Score: 1-3 Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 ByuL spawns in the bottom right Maru spawns in the top left
1:45 double proxy rax from Maru (12-14) -- not too far forward. still on Maru's half but close to the center
2:00 Hatch first for ByuL gas for ByuL Pool for ByuL
3:00 Maru supply blocked Bunker started in the natural of ByuL 2nd bunker on the low ground walling in the first marine near the ramp ling speed started for ByuL
4:00 10 lings on the way both bunker finish 3rd Bunker started for Maru 4 lings on the map trying to catch reinforcements but both get through Maru grouping up his reinforcements now
5:00 ByuL scouts the rax location with his watchtower but he cant do anything about it 3rd bunker finishes (2 in range of hatch) Natural hatchery of Byul dies 4th bunker in the natural started for Maru double gas for Maru CC on the way for Maru
6:00 another bunker started for Maru creating a full wall off ByuL attacks as speed finishes ByuL is able to break out because there wasnt too many Marines 3rd CC started for Maru ByuL trying to counterattack but there is a full wall off with marines
7:00 ByuL's natural hatch is half way done Factory on the way for Maru 2nd factory for Maru double reactor on the 2 rax for Maru right next to the factories
8:00 Roach warren started for ByuL both factories moved to reactors 4 hellion production started for Maru
9:00 baneling nest started for ByuL Maru scans and sees roach warren and baneling nest 2 tech labs on the rax ByuL cancels the baneling nest after the scan ends Maru lands his natural OC Stim and concussive hsells started for Maru double evo on the way for ByuL double marauder production started for Maru
10:00 first roaches are out for ByuL 1-1 ling upgrades started for ByuL Roaches deflect the first 4 hellions of Maru 3rd base started for ByuL and scouted by a hellion Lair started for ByuL a bunch of hellions drive into the natural
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime ByuL vs Maru Game 5 Score: 1-3 Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 ByuL spawns in the bottom right Maru spawns in the top left
1:45 double proxy rax from Maru (12-14) -- not too far forward. still on Maru's half but close to the center
2:00 Hatch first for ByuL gas for ByuL Pool for ByuL
3:00 Maru supply blocked Bunker started in the natural of ByuL 2nd bunker on the low ground walling in the first marine near the ramp ling speed started for ByuL
4:00 10 lings on the way both bunker finish 3rd Bunker started for Maru 4 lings on the map trying to catch reinforcements but both get through Maru grouping up his reinforcements now
5:00 ByuL scouts the rax location with his watchtower but he cant do anything about it 3rd bunker finishes (2 in range of hatch) Natural hatchery of Byul dies 4th bunker in the natural started for Maru double gas for Maru CC on the way for Maru
6:00 another bunker started for Maru creating a full wall off ByuL attacks as speed finishes ByuL is able to break out because there wasnt too many Marines 3rd CC started for Maru ByuL trying to counterattack but there is a full wall off with marines
7:00 ByuL's natural hatch is half way done Factory on the way for Maru 2nd factory for Maru double reactor on the 2 rax for Maru right next to the factories
8:00 Roach warren started for ByuL both factories moved to reactors 4 hellion production started for Maru
9:00 baneling nest started for ByuL Maru scans and sees roach warren and baneling nest 2 tech labs on the rax ByuL cancels the baneling nest after the scan ends Maru lands his natural OC Stim and concussive hsells started for Maru double evo on the way for ByuL double marauder production started for Maru
10:00 first roaches are out for ByuL 1-1 ling upgrades started for ByuL Roaches deflect the first 4 hellions of Maru 3rd base started for ByuL and scouted by a hellion Lair started for ByuL a bunch of hellions drive into the natural
11:00 Hellions kill 16 harvester and a bunch of lings before being cleaned up more hellions cleaning up lings on the map
12:00 Maru pulls a bunch of scvs from his natural and starts pushing out as stim finishes Roach speed started for ByuL Hellions start killing creep tumors scv marauder hellion attack enters the natural of ByuL ByuL's army gets crushed Maru up 50 supply ByuL loses his whole army ByuL ggs! Maru wins and gives Prime a 4-1 lead!
Byul kinda cripped his 2 rax defensing chances by not scouting into later gas/pool timing. vs 11/11 (which he probably thought it was, he had no information) that's already begun 2 bunkers there's very little you can do from that situation. Like, the bunkers have already begun. He can't really try and get a crawler up and he already hasn't pulled drones. He's just behind.
Khaldor still the biggest fanboy of Maru. I wonder if there ever will be a match of him when Khaldor isn't going "he is so young and already so talented"
On November 02 2012 20:34 Fusilero wrote: I knew this guy as the one that went 0-5 in up and downs and eliminated huk before he lost scarlett terious hipsters unite!
Wait didn't he lose the up and downs AFTER he lost to scarlett?
On November 02 2012 20:35 Waxangel wrote: maybe he took B4's spot D:
SalmosaPrime wasn't listed on the roster before the matches as well. I guess he would have been the next zerg after B4 but they are down to Terius and AriA I guess? or maybe Salmosa just doesnt play in team league
On November 02 2012 20:34 Fusilero wrote: I knew this guy as the one that went 0-5 in up and downs and eliminated huk before he lost scarlett terious hipsters unite!
Wait didn't he lose the up and downs AFTER he lost to scarlett?
lol right, he was like Scarletts first more or less prominent victim.
On November 02 2012 20:34 Fusilero wrote: I knew this guy as the one that went 0-5 in up and downs and eliminated huk before he lost scarlett terious hipsters unite!
Wait didn't he lose the up and downs AFTER he lost to scarlett?
the thing with prime is that there's a prime team, and a prime feeder clan. i think terius left prime team proper to chill a bit in the clan (as a practice-from-home practice partner). salmosa might be back to the prime clan?
i saw terius on the stream VODs but not salmosa actually
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
11:00 aLive adds 2 additional factories +2 carapace started for Terius +1 air carapace started for Terius Hellions drive into the 3rd of Terius and kill 7 drones and a bunch of lings 7 mutas started for Terius
12:00 ebay started for aLive 2 thors are already out for aLive with 2 more on the way baneling speed started for Terius 2-2 mech upgrades started for aLive Roach warren started for Terius
13:00 Thors deny mutas from the natural 5 missile turrets go up for aLive 5 thors are out for aLive Hellions drive into the 3rd but dont accomplish much
14:00 4th CC started for aLive infestation pit finishes for Terius roaches and roach speed started for Terius 4th base started for Terius +1 range attacks on the way for Terius Siege tanks and siege mode started for aLive
15:00 Ling bane muta counterattack at the 3rd of Terius as aLive pushes out aLive traps Terius's army at his 3rd Mutas try to fly into the main and do damage but there are thors all around half the mutas die aLive pushing across the map only 8 scvs died at the 3rd Roaches engage the thors but he has to back off because there is too much for aLive
On November 02 2012 20:40 -ForeverAlone- wrote: Wow, I hope no one from shit reddit says is watching right now.
Don't worry, those jerks don't watch SC2. Let's just hope they don't catch wind of it somewhere else, so please no one make a thread about it.
As a jerk I took incredible offense I'm going onto SRS now and have them email your sponsors.
I thought you were terran.
I play random, I demand random icons on TL I feel discriminated.
And I want a viewer icon. Maybe a monitor or something.
I would love that!!
haha, you don't play this game either?
Nope! I played a bit of brood war is all. I dunno how the fuck I got so addicted to watching this haha
me too, haha, i've only really ever played customs for fun lol
I used to ladder but now I'm kind of bored of playing, I still like play a few matches but these days the only game I play is LoL still love watching SC2 above all else though.
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
11:00 aLive adds 2 additional factories +2 carapace started for Terius +1 air carapace started for Terius Hellions drive into the 3rd of Terius and kill 7 drones and a bunch of lings 7 mutas started for Terius
12:00 ebay started for aLive 2 thors are already out for aLive with 2 more on the way baneling speed started for Terius 2-2 mech upgrades started for aLive Roach warren started for Terius
13:00 Thors deny mutas from the natural 5 missile turrets go up for aLive 5 thors are out for aLive Hellions drive into the 3rd but dont accomplish much
14:00 4th CC started for aLive infestation pit finishes for Terius roaches and roach speed started for Terius 4th base started for Terius +1 range attacks on the way for Terius Siege tanks and siege mode started for aLive
15:00 Ling bane muta counterattack at the 3rd of Terius as aLive pushes out aLive traps Terius's army at his 3rd Mutas try to fly into the main and do damage but there are thors all around half the mutas die aLive pushing across the map only 8 scvs died at the 3rd Roaches engage the thors but he has to back off because there is too much for aLive
16:00 aLive hitting a 2-2 mech timing as he pushes the 3rd of Terius the 4th base of Terius was either killed or cancelled roaches and banelings sandwich the thors and kills off the mech army of aLive
17:00 Hive started for Terius Burrow and pathogen glands started for Terius Burrowed movement being researched for Terius Terius restarts his 4th base Infestor production begins for Terius +2 range attack started for Terius 2 more CCs on the way for aLive
18:00 Corruptor production started for Terius Hive scanned by aLive Greater spire by Terius aLive still pumping out thors
19:00 aLive starts pushing out again as he nears max 2 more starports started for aLive hellions drive intot he 4th of Terius drones burrow before too many die Burrowed roaches get caught by a scan they are able to take out 2 thors as they are chased away
20:00 3-3 mech upgrades started for aLive aLive is up 50 supply another thor is caught on the map by lings and roaches 6 brood lords begin morphing for Terius 14 Hellions start attacking the 4th of Terius
On November 02 2012 20:42 ACrow wrote: [quote] Don't worry, those jerks don't watch SC2. Let's just hope they don't catch wind of it somewhere else, so please no one make a thread about it.
As a jerk I took incredible offense I'm going onto SRS now and have them email your sponsors.
I thought you were terran.
I play random, I demand random icons on TL I feel discriminated.
And I want a viewer icon. Maybe a monitor or something.
I would love that!!
haha, you don't play this game either?
Nope! I played a bit of brood war is all. I dunno how the fuck I got so addicted to watching this haha
me too, haha, i've only really ever played customs for fun lol
The last PC game I played with any sort of focus was Half Life 1 deathmatch lol
mine was tactics ogre: the knight of lodis on VBA. best game ever
On November 02 2012 20:43 Fusilero wrote: [quote] As a jerk I took incredible offense I'm going onto SRS now and have them email your sponsors.
I thought you were terran.
I play random, I demand random icons on TL I feel discriminated.
And I want a viewer icon. Maybe a monitor or something.
I would love that!!
haha, you don't play this game either?
Nope! I played a bit of brood war is all. I dunno how the fuck I got so addicted to watching this haha
me too, haha, i've only really ever played customs for fun lol
The last PC game I played with any sort of focus was Half Life 1 deathmatch lol
mine was tactics ogre: the knight of lodis on VBA. best game ever
I sure beat the hell out of that game on GBA. I remember setting a priest to autofight or something in training all night to get it to L50, and also making uberswords out of those sword scrolls!
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
11:00 aLive adds 2 additional factories +2 carapace started for Terius +1 air carapace started for Terius Hellions drive into the 3rd of Terius and kill 7 drones and a bunch of lings 7 mutas started for Terius
12:00 ebay started for aLive 2 thors are already out for aLive with 2 more on the way baneling speed started for Terius 2-2 mech upgrades started for aLive Roach warren started for Terius
13:00 Thors deny mutas from the natural 5 missile turrets go up for aLive 5 thors are out for aLive Hellions drive into the 3rd but dont accomplish much
14:00 4th CC started for aLive infestation pit finishes for Terius roaches and roach speed started for Terius 4th base started for Terius +1 range attacks on the way for Terius Siege tanks and siege mode started for aLive
15:00 Ling bane muta counterattack at the 3rd of Terius as aLive pushes out aLive traps Terius's army at his 3rd Mutas try to fly into the main and do damage but there are thors all around half the mutas die aLive pushing across the map only 8 scvs died at the 3rd Roaches engage the thors but he has to back off because there is too much for aLive
16:00 aLive hitting a 2-2 mech timing as he pushes the 3rd of Terius the 4th base of Terius was either killed or cancelled roaches and banelings sandwich the thors and kills off the mech army of aLive
17:00 Hive started for Terius Burrow and pathogen glands started for Terius Burrowed movement being researched for Terius Terius restarts his 4th base Infestor production begins for Terius +2 range attack started for Terius 2 more CCs on the way for aLive
18:00 Corruptor production started for Terius Hive scanned by aLive Greater spire by Terius aLive still pumping out thors
19:00 aLive starts pushing out again as he nears max 2 more starports started for aLive hellions drive intot he 4th of Terius drones burrow before too many die Burrowed roaches get caught by a scan they are able to take out 2 thors as they are chased away
20:00 3-3 mech upgrades started for aLive aLive is up 50 supply another thor is caught on the map by lings and roaches 6 brood lords begin morphing for Terius 14 Hellions start attacking the 4th of Terius
21:00 mech army blows up the 4th of Terius another base started on the left side of the map for Terius quad viking production on the way for aLive Terius tries to engage as tanks are unsieged but the mech army is too strong
22:00 a few roaches deny the 4th of aLive Brood lords start hitting the mech army of aLive vikings are out of position aLive cleans up the roaches at where he wants to take his 4th Terius adding on 5 more infestors
23:00 2 banshees are caught by a fungal no second fungal so one of the banshees escapes aLive lands his 4th base
24:00 Terius starts his 5th base 12 vikings are out now for aLive Terius adding in more corruptors
25:00 4 more infestors on the way 3 hellions come into the 3rd of Terius every viking of aLive gets fungalled all the vikings are falling to fungal growth Brood lords start waiting on the thors aLive loses 60 supply to fungal lolololol total Byun move aLive now losing 100 supply of mech army Terius is 50 supply ahead
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
11:00 aLive adds 2 additional factories +2 carapace started for Terius +1 air carapace started for Terius Hellions drive into the 3rd of Terius and kill 7 drones and a bunch of lings 7 mutas started for Terius
12:00 ebay started for aLive 2 thors are already out for aLive with 2 more on the way baneling speed started for Terius 2-2 mech upgrades started for aLive Roach warren started for Terius
13:00 Thors deny mutas from the natural 5 missile turrets go up for aLive 5 thors are out for aLive Hellions drive into the 3rd but dont accomplish much
14:00 4th CC started for aLive infestation pit finishes for Terius roaches and roach speed started for Terius 4th base started for Terius +1 range attacks on the way for Terius Siege tanks and siege mode started for aLive
15:00 Ling bane muta counterattack at the 3rd of Terius as aLive pushes out aLive traps Terius's army at his 3rd Mutas try to fly into the main and do damage but there are thors all around half the mutas die aLive pushing across the map only 8 scvs died at the 3rd Roaches engage the thors but he has to back off because there is too much for aLive
16:00 aLive hitting a 2-2 mech timing as he pushes the 3rd of Terius the 4th base of Terius was either killed or cancelled roaches and banelings sandwich the thors and kills off the mech army of aLive
17:00 Hive started for Terius Burrow and pathogen glands started for Terius Burrowed movement being researched for Terius Terius restarts his 4th base Infestor production begins for Terius +2 range attack started for Terius 2 more CCs on the way for aLive
18:00 Corruptor production started for Terius Hive scanned by aLive Greater spire by Terius aLive still pumping out thors
19:00 aLive starts pushing out again as he nears max 2 more starports started for aLive hellions drive intot he 4th of Terius drones burrow before too many die Burrowed roaches get caught by a scan they are able to take out 2 thors as they are chased away
20:00 3-3 mech upgrades started for aLive aLive is up 50 supply another thor is caught on the map by lings and roaches 6 brood lords begin morphing for Terius 14 Hellions start attacking the 4th of Terius
21:00 mech army blows up the 4th of Terius another base started on the left side of the map for Terius quad viking production on the way for aLive Terius tries to engage as tanks are unsieged but the mech army is too strong
22:00 a few roaches deny the 4th of aLive Brood lords start hitting the mech army of aLive vikings are out of position aLive cleans up the roaches at where he wants to take his 4th Terius adding on 5 more infestors
23:00 2 banshees are caught by a fungal no second fungal so one of the banshees escapes aLive lands his 4th base
24:00 Terius starts his 5th base 12 vikings are out now for aLive Terius adding in more corruptors
25:00 4 more infestors on the way 3 hellions come into the 3rd of Terius every viking of aLive gets fungalled all the vikings are falling to fungal growth Brood lords start waiting on the thors aLive loses 60 supply to fungal lolololol total Byun move aLive now losing 100 supply of mech army Terius is 50 supply ahead
26:00 4th base of aLive is forced to lift by a roach runby aLive is able to make up the supply deficit with more thors so it's only 20 now
27:00 hellions attacking at the 5th of Terius drones burrow and the hellions are killed
28:00 aLive has managed to tie up the supply 10 vikings 8 thors 6 hellions for aLive 5 brood lords 7 infestors 6 corruptors and 20 roaches for Terius 3 roaches killing quite a few scvs at the 4th of aLive aLive is down to 28 scvs aLive scouts the 5th of Terius
29:00 7 Brood lords are out now aLive still making vikings roaches burrowed, aLive left, roaches unburrowed and kill another mule
30:00 Neural parasite started for Terius 5 more infestors coming out for Terius Both players are at 175 supply aLive pushing out with his thor viking army 2 burrowed infestors drop a bunch of infested terran at the 4th and kill all of the scvs
GSTL S3 Fnatic vs Prime aLive vs Terius Game 7 Score: 2-4 Map: Whirlwind
0:00 aLive spawns in the bottom left Terius spawns in the top left
2:00 Hatch first for Terius CC first on the high ground from aLive gas from aLive Terius scouts CC first and gas before rax Pool for Terius rax for aLive
3:00 drones and scvs
4:00 Factory for aLive reactor for aLive 2nd gas for aLive
5:00 aLive lands his natural OC tech lab started on rax Starport started for aLive next to tech lab starport
6:00 3rd base for Terius first 2 hellions are out for aLive double gas for Terius Cloak started for aLive Terius going up to 4 gas Banshee production started double evo startedf or Terius Ling speed started for Terius
7:00 spine going up in the natural of Terius because of Hellion pokes 3rd CC started for aLive overlord flies into aLive's base and sees cloak researching on the starport
8:00 6 queen build for Terius spores started in the mineral lines of Terius Lair started for Terius +1 carapace on the way first banshee arrives at the natural of Terius but is turned back by a spore and queen aLive finds a spot where the spore's detection doesnt reach and the banshee starts killing drones (6) dead
9:00 blue flame research started for aLive double armory finishing up for aLive macro hatch started for Terius +1 melee started for Terius 2nd banshee goes for the 3rd base and starts hitting drones 10 drones have been killed now 2 more factories on the way for aLive 1-1 mech upgrades started for aLive spire on the way for Terius
10:00 Terius's overseer sees a couple of marines---still hasnt scouted extra factories or mech composition aLive lands his 3rd base Thors started for aLive baneling nest started for Terius
11:00 aLive adds 2 additional factories +2 carapace started for Terius +1 air carapace started for Terius Hellions drive into the 3rd of Terius and kill 7 drones and a bunch of lings 7 mutas started for Terius
12:00 ebay started for aLive 2 thors are already out for aLive with 2 more on the way baneling speed started for Terius 2-2 mech upgrades started for aLive Roach warren started for Terius
13:00 Thors deny mutas from the natural 5 missile turrets go up for aLive 5 thors are out for aLive Hellions drive into the 3rd but dont accomplish much
14:00 4th CC started for aLive infestation pit finishes for Terius roaches and roach speed started for Terius 4th base started for Terius +1 range attacks on the way for Terius Siege tanks and siege mode started for aLive
15:00 Ling bane muta counterattack at the 3rd of Terius as aLive pushes out aLive traps Terius's army at his 3rd Mutas try to fly into the main and do damage but there are thors all around half the mutas die aLive pushing across the map only 8 scvs died at the 3rd Roaches engage the thors but he has to back off because there is too much for aLive
16:00 aLive hitting a 2-2 mech timing as he pushes the 3rd of Terius the 4th base of Terius was either killed or cancelled roaches and banelings sandwich the thors and kills off the mech army of aLive
17:00 Hive started for Terius Burrow and pathogen glands started for Terius Burrowed movement being researched for Terius Terius restarts his 4th base Infestor production begins for Terius +2 range attack started for Terius 2 more CCs on the way for aLive
18:00 Corruptor production started for Terius Hive scanned by aLive Greater spire by Terius aLive still pumping out thors
19:00 aLive starts pushing out again as he nears max 2 more starports started for aLive hellions drive intot he 4th of Terius drones burrow before too many die Burrowed roaches get caught by a scan they are able to take out 2 thors as they are chased away
20:00 3-3 mech upgrades started for aLive aLive is up 50 supply another thor is caught on the map by lings and roaches 6 brood lords begin morphing for Terius 14 Hellions start attacking the 4th of Terius
21:00 mech army blows up the 4th of Terius another base started on the left side of the map for Terius quad viking production on the way for aLive Terius tries to engage as tanks are unsieged but the mech army is too strong
22:00 a few roaches deny the 4th of aLive Brood lords start hitting the mech army of aLive vikings are out of position aLive cleans up the roaches at where he wants to take his 4th Terius adding on 5 more infestors
23:00 2 banshees are caught by a fungal no second fungal so one of the banshees escapes aLive lands his 4th base
24:00 Terius starts his 5th base 12 vikings are out now for aLive Terius adding in more corruptors
25:00 4 more infestors on the way 3 hellions come into the 3rd of Terius every viking of aLive gets fungalled all the vikings are falling to fungal growth Brood lords start waiting on the thors aLive loses 60 supply to fungal lolololol total Byun move aLive now losing 100 supply of mech army Terius is 50 supply ahead
26:00 4th base of aLive is forced to lift by a roach runby aLive is able to make up the supply deficit with more thors so it's only 20 now
27:00 hellions attacking at the 5th of Terius drones burrow and the hellions are killed
28:00 aLive has managed to tie up the supply 10 vikings 8 thors 6 hellions for aLive 5 brood lords 7 infestors 6 corruptors and 20 roaches for Terius 3 roaches killing quite a few scvs at the 4th of aLive aLive is down to 28 scvs aLive scouts the 5th of Terius
29:00 7 Brood lords are out now aLive still making vikings roaches burrowed, aLive left, roaches unburrowed and kill another mule
30:00 Neural parasite started for Terius 5 more infestors coming out for Terius Both players are at 175 supply aLive pushing out with his thor viking army 2 burrowed infestors drop a bunch of infested terran at the 4th and kill all of the scvs
31:00 aLive engages at Terius's 4th he actually splits his vikings this time infestor corruptor brood lord kills off the vikings only 4 brood lords left thors are starting to push through the ramp infestors are out of energy brood lords are cleaned up by the thors hellions are all still alive all the drones at the 4th of Terius die
32:00 all of the infestors are dead at the main engagement the 4th of aLive is dead aLive has no mining 70 supply for both players aLive pushing into the natural of Terius
33:00 all the hellions get caught by fungal and die 42 supply of just thors vs 80 supply of roaches and drones with 3 infesotrs sorry 2 hellions were still alive and just killed a bunch of drones Roaches catcha ll the thors alone
34:00 aLive loses all of his thors aLive has 8 supply left aLive ggs! Terius wins the game and Prime wins the match 5-2!
I wanted Fnatic to win, wanted terran to win and wanted to see more games, but I'm happy Alive lost that game. Just terrible play after terrible play after terrible play.
On November 02 2012 21:03 DidYuhim wrote: That's not about Bumblebee being good. Just aLive struggling in TvZ too much.
If he had done one of two things differently he would have won easily. He didn't really struggle against him. The herassment was good, the push was solid, it was just the one moment he lost the game to the most beloved spell in the game. If he had made an Orbital at his 4th afterwards he would have won after that, even after losing all that to Fungal.
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
To be fair to Terius, FnaticJ should count as -1 wins and Moon probably counts as 0 so they both took out 1 player but ByuN's net score is 0 so Terius is MVP
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
On November 02 2012 21:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: To be fair to Terius, FnaticJ should count as -1 wins and Moon probably counts as 0 so they both took out 1 player but ByuN's net score is 0 so Terius is MVP
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
The point is there should not be a spell that can make such a difference to the game
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
If fungal doesn't hit air units, Zerg does not beat Terran late game. Or Protoss.
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
The point is there should not be a spell that can make such a difference to the game
AOE is too strong in this game with the clumping, all races have it (fungal is easier to chain though)
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
If fungal doesn't hit air units, Zerg does not beat Terran late game. Or Protoss.
And you would never go Infestors in ZvZ again.
Mutas in zvz would be the most ridiuclous thing, fuck that suggestion
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
The point is there should not be a spell that can make such a difference to the game
So storm shouldn't exist, since it makes such a drastic difference in TvP?
On November 02 2012 21:09 opterown wrote: hey gerrard has a GSTL pin
remember that time he said he would quit if it could be proved that PartinG should have won that game, just because he knew no one would follow through and that GomTV had his back?
On November 02 2012 21:09 opterown wrote: hey gerrard has a GSTL pin
remember that time he said he would quit if it could be proved that PartinG should have won that game, just because he knew no one would follow through and that GomTV had his back?
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
The point is there should not be a spell that can make such a difference to the game
So storm shouldn't exist, since it makes such a drastic difference in TvP?
Lol...
You can run out of Storm, you can't escape Fungal.
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
Urm my point is clumping up your most valuable units that you need to win should never be forgiveable fungal is silly but that was 100% alive's fault for being stupid and letting it happen.
The point is there should not be a spell that can make such a difference to the game
So storm shouldn't exist, since it makes such a drastic difference in TvP?
Lol...
You can run out of Storm, you can't escape Fungal.
You can split units to minimize the effect though. If you don't dodge storm, you die to it. If you don't split against fungal when needed, you die to it. It's the same logic. People don't complain that they have to storm dodge, why do they complain when they need to fungal split (I'm inventing this phrase now).
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
If fungal doesn't hit air units, Zerg does not beat Terran late game. Or Protoss.
And you would never go Infestors in ZvZ again.
Mutas in zvz would be the most ridiuclous thing, fuck that suggestion
On November 02 2012 20:58 Azzur wrote: For those ppl blaming alive - i'm sure many terrans wish for 1 spell that can change the game like that
What alive did is the equivalent of getting nuked while seeing the red dot, it's just unforgivable for a player on this level
I think my eyes were bad or something - according to you, fungals will have green dots all over the map showing where it will land
If a protoss clumped up all of his HTs during a fight and let them all die to one EMP who's fault is it?
You're comparing apples with oranges - ghost only drain 100 energy - if vikings gets fungaled, it's game over. Also, you can't chain EMPs - if EMPs immobilised units for 4 sec, then the comparison will be valid
As I've mentioned in the Designated Balance Discussion Thread: fungals should not hit air units.
If fungal doesn't hit air units, Zerg does not beat Terran late game. Or Protoss.
And you would never go Infestors in ZvZ again.
Mutas in zvz would be the most ridiuclous thing, fuck that suggestion
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