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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 11:19 GMT
#581
On October 24 2012 20:18 lichter wrote:
If YongHwa all-kills Startale on Saturday pretty sure he deserves the seed


he already deserves the seed imho, even if he gets 0 kills or doesnt play whatsoever against startale, anyway they would decide the seeds before then
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 11:20:22
October 24 2012 11:19 GMT
#582
Maybe we should start logging Khaldor claims and check his actual hit rate.

He is correct that if Trap loses he is out, but his reasoning sounds faulty.
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 24 2012 11:19 GMT
#583
SPINECRAWLER. Shine is the next zerg bonjwa.
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
October 24 2012 11:19 GMT
#584
On October 24 2012 20:17 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:13 Waxangel wrote:
Anyway, seeing as KeSPA players have entered the system in the proper way, it seems unlikely that GomTV will be giving away two KeSPA seeds in season five as well.

At the same time, they've almost completely run out of useful foreigners to give Code S seeds to. Foreign seeds don't always HAVE to be coming off a good tournament performance, but right now their options are pretty much Stephano (if he accepts and stays in KR), SaSe, or re-invite a prior seed like NaNiwa. Besides Stephano, none of those options are really first or even second choice for GomTV.

That's why Nestea fits in so nicely. Nestea is an icon of Code S, a player who has a fucking award named after him, and is a huge fan favorite. For the three time champ who has been in more Code S seasons than anyone, there would be little to no backlash about seeding him right back into Code S. 90% of viewers would agree that he deserves more it compared to a non-stephano foreigner or yet another KeSPA pick.



he's just gonna fall out again right away ;o

if you MUST seed a non kespa korean put YONGHWA in there


the only thing against nestea+steph i think is the lack of protoss players in code s right now. it would bring out so much protoss tears if they seed another 2 zergs. yonghwa is a cool choice btw
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TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
October 24 2012 11:19 GMT
#585
On October 24 2012 20:18 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol khaldor and wolf so stupid :p, could have a 5way 2-3 tie still

At least he was convinced he was right! Well, i guess this goes into that 5%
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#586
i really wanna know who the seeds for next season are. Stephano seems somewhat less likely now looking at his tournament schedule for November, but who knows. he is a little cray. maybe someone from Kespa, maybe someone that is doing well in GSTL and is not in Code A/S, maybe some foreigner that probably won't stand much of a chance, i dunno. not Nestea though, that would be a bit ridiculous.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#587
On October 24 2012 20:19 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:18 lichter wrote:
If YongHwa all-kills Startale on Saturday pretty sure he deserves the seed


he already deserves the seed imho, even if he gets 0 kills or doesnt play whatsoever against startale, anyway they would decide the seeds before then


Yeah, all killing two teams in a row is a monumental achievement, and considering the hardship he's had with the code A prelims for so damn long i'd say he deserves some love.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#588
On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote:
let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^


He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV!

0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol

also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong)

No, it's not.

2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second.

Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still.


Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#589
On October 24 2012 20:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Season 5 Up & Down Matches
asd (1-1) vs Shine (1-1)
Map: Ohana

0:00
asd spawns in the top left
Shine spawns in the bottom right

1:45
double maka rax near the cliff at the 4th/main border from asd
Hatch first from Shine
Pool from Shine

3:00
bunker started in the natural of Shine
drones pulled from Shine to defend
first drone falls
drones force a cancel on the building bunker

4:00
spine started in the natural of Shine
asd flies his 2 rax to his natural ramp to help wall off
CC started at the natural for asd
spinecrawler is canceled
ling attack at the natural of asd but there are enough marines to hold it off

5:00
3rd CC started in the main for asd
double gas for asd
gas for Shine
3rd rax built to wall off the top of the natural ramp for asd
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mogster
Profile Joined September 2012
205 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#590
On October 24 2012 20:16 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:15 MCDayC wrote:
I just don't think it would happen, however much sense it makes. Still think its sad that Puma never got a seed when he was on form, obviously now he doesn't deserve it based on current skill, but last year he really should have been at least in Code A.


PuMa kinda missed his timing because there were better options at the time. A player who was playing as well as PuMa in foreign tournaments yet not in Code A at current time would definitely be a great seed candidate RIGHT NOW, but it just wasn't the case in the past. Nestea's not a great option, but given the current situation, he's one of the better ones.


I would like to see him in Code S as well but don't you think he will go out 0-4 in the Ro32 based on his form? That's may be the reason why they won't invite him. There are already too many seeded players who failed.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#591
jjakji could be seeded as well, would be really nice
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 11:21 GMT
#592
yonghwa is coming off of not one but two all kills in GSTL and he also won WCG Korea 2012 ( this is actually a major title even if you don't believe it yourself )

torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 24 2012 11:21 GMT
#593
this is starting to get intense. nothing decided yet.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 11:22:32
October 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#594
On October 24 2012 20:20 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote:
let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^


He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV!

0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol

also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong)

No, it's not.

2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second.

Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still.

Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out.

No, no. If one player goes 5-0, and everyone else 2-3, there will be a clean tie for second, because all those players will be 2-2 against each other (just subtract the loss against the winner).
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#595
Wolf wanted to pull off that legendary Apollo mech prediction, couldn't quite do it.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
October 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#596
Sometimes Khaldor is a little fast with his math conclusions:

A: 5-0
B: 2-3
C: 2-3
D: 2-3
E: 2-3
F: 2-3

Voilà. Players B to F split a 2-2 group between each other and everyone loses to A, and then there is a massive tie-breaker between the rest. Though the likelihood is unbelievably low. But still possible to advance with 3 losses. And now back to the games
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#597
On October 24 2012 20:21 Dodgin wrote:
yonghwa is coming off of not one but two all kills in GSTL and he also won WCG Korea 2012 ( this is actually a major title even if you don't believe it yourself )


Hmm, yeah, I would say that he most definitely deserves it, I completely forgot about WCG.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#598
On October 24 2012 20:20 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:
On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote:
let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^


He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV!

0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol

also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong)

No, it's not.

2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second.

Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still.


Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out.


in a 5 way tie you go 2-2 with every other person in the tie, with the 3rd loss being against the 5-0er. so there is no head-to-head difference
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33664 Posts
October 24 2012 11:23 GMT
#599
I don't think they'd do Yonghwa AND Nestea though, too IM favored
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 24 2012 11:24 GMT
#600
On October 24 2012 20:23 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think they'd do Yonghwa AND Nestea though, too IM favored

Starcraft 2 is too IM favoured, thats the problem.
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