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On October 24 2012 20:18 lichter wrote: If YongHwa all-kills Startale on Saturday pretty sure he deserves the seed
he already deserves the seed imho, even if he gets 0 kills or doesnt play whatsoever against startale, anyway they would decide the seeds before then
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Maybe we should start logging Khaldor claims and check his actual hit rate.
He is correct that if Trap loses he is out, but his reasoning sounds faulty.
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SPINECRAWLER. Shine is the next zerg bonjwa.
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On October 24 2012 20:17 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:13 Waxangel wrote: Anyway, seeing as KeSPA players have entered the system in the proper way, it seems unlikely that GomTV will be giving away two KeSPA seeds in season five as well.
At the same time, they've almost completely run out of useful foreigners to give Code S seeds to. Foreign seeds don't always HAVE to be coming off a good tournament performance, but right now their options are pretty much Stephano (if he accepts and stays in KR), SaSe, or re-invite a prior seed like NaNiwa. Besides Stephano, none of those options are really first or even second choice for GomTV.
That's why Nestea fits in so nicely. Nestea is an icon of Code S, a player who has a fucking award named after him, and is a huge fan favorite. For the three time champ who has been in more Code S seasons than anyone, there would be little to no backlash about seeding him right back into Code S. 90% of viewers would agree that he deserves more it compared to a non-stephano foreigner or yet another KeSPA pick.
he's just gonna fall out again right away ;o if you MUST seed a non kespa korean put YONGHWA in there
the only thing against nestea+steph i think is the lack of protoss players in code s right now. it would bring out so much protoss tears if they seed another 2 zergs. yonghwa is a cool choice btw
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On October 24 2012 20:18 X3GoldDot wrote: lol khaldor and wolf so stupid :p, could have a 5way 2-3 tie still At least he was convinced he was right! Well, i guess this goes into that 5%
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i really wanna know who the seeds for next season are. Stephano seems somewhat less likely now looking at his tournament schedule for November, but who knows. he is a little cray. maybe someone from Kespa, maybe someone that is doing well in GSTL and is not in Code A/S, maybe some foreigner that probably won't stand much of a chance, i dunno. not Nestea though, that would be a bit ridiculous.
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On October 24 2012 20:19 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:18 lichter wrote: If YongHwa all-kills Startale on Saturday pretty sure he deserves the seed he already deserves the seed imho, even if he gets 0 kills or doesnt play whatsoever against startale, anyway they would decide the seeds before then
Yeah, all killing two teams in a row is a monumental achievement, and considering the hardship he's had with the code A prelims for so damn long i'd say he deserves some love.
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On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote: let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^ He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV! 0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong) No, it's not. 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second. Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still.
Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out.
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On October 24 2012 20:17 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL Season 5 Up & Down Matches  asd (1-1) vs  Shine (1-1) Map: Ohana 0:00  asd spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:45 double maka rax near the cliff at the 4th/main border from asd Hatch first from Shine Pool from Shine
3:00 bunker started in the natural of Shine drones pulled from Shine to defend first drone falls drones force a cancel on the building bunker
4:00 spine started in the natural of Shine asd flies his 2 rax to his natural ramp to help wall off CC started at the natural for asd spinecrawler is canceled ling attack at the natural of asd but there are enough marines to hold it off
5:00 3rd CC started in the main for asd double gas for asd gas for Shine 3rd rax built to wall off the top of the natural ramp for asd
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On October 24 2012 20:16 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:15 MCDayC wrote: I just don't think it would happen, however much sense it makes. Still think its sad that Puma never got a seed when he was on form, obviously now he doesn't deserve it based on current skill, but last year he really should have been at least in Code A. PuMa kinda missed his timing because there were better options at the time. A player who was playing as well as PuMa in foreign tournaments yet not in Code A at current time would definitely be a great seed candidate RIGHT NOW, but it just wasn't the case in the past. Nestea's not a great option, but given the current situation, he's one of the better ones.
I would like to see him in Code S as well but don't you think he will go out 0-4 in the Ro32 based on his form? That's may be the reason why they won't invite him. There are already too many seeded players who failed.
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jjakji could be seeded as well, would be really nice
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yonghwa is coming off of not one but two all kills in GSTL and he also won WCG Korea 2012 ( this is actually a major title even if you don't believe it yourself )
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this is starting to get intense. nothing decided yet.
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On October 24 2012 20:20 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote: let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^ He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV! 0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong) No, it's not. 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second. Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still. Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out. No, no. If one player goes 5-0, and everyone else 2-3, there will be a clean tie for second, because all those players will be 2-2 against each other (just subtract the loss against the winner).
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Wolf wanted to pull off that legendary Apollo mech prediction, couldn't quite do it.
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Sometimes Khaldor is a little fast with his math conclusions:
A: 5-0 B: 2-3 C: 2-3 D: 2-3 E: 2-3 F: 2-3
Voilà. Players B to F split a 2-2 group between each other and everyone loses to A, and then there is a massive tie-breaker between the rest. Though the likelihood is unbelievably low. But still possible to advance with 3 losses. And now back to the games
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On October 24 2012 20:21 Dodgin wrote: yonghwa is coming off of not one but two all kills in GSTL and he also won WCG Korea 2012 ( this is actually a major title even if you don't believe it yourself )
Hmm, yeah, I would say that he most definitely deserves it, I completely forgot about WCG.
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On October 24 2012 20:20 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 20:14 TheBB wrote:On October 24 2012 20:12 Jehct wrote:On October 24 2012 20:11 batterseapower wrote:On October 24 2012 20:09 Yello wrote: let Khaldor do that stuff for you. He seems to be the first caster to ever have a grasp of basic mathematics and also being motivated enough to bring it to use ^.^ He's wrong about this stuff about 50% of the time though.. for example he just claimed Trap was out if he loses his next game which I do not think is the case. It's understandable though, kind of hard to do this calculation on live TV! 0-3 is 100% out, best you could do is 2-3 which is never gonna be enough to advance in a top2 advance format lol also give khaldor more credit, I've never actually seen his calculations be wrong (sometimes hard to follow, never wrong) No, it's not. 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3, 2-3 and 5-0. Tie for second. Of course, this can't happen in THIS case, but still. Yes, it's impossible because GOM will go to the head-to-heads in which case Trap will be out.
in a 5 way tie you go 2-2 with every other person in the tie, with the 3rd loss being against the 5-0er. so there is no head-to-head difference
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I don't think they'd do Yonghwa AND Nestea though, too IM favored
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On October 24 2012 20:23 Waxangel wrote: I don't think they'd do Yonghwa AND Nestea though, too IM favored Starcraft 2 is too IM favoured, thats the problem.
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