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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
(Aside, as a Stephano fan, I hate ppl bitching when I'm sure 80+% ppl didn't actually see the nightend game.. Stephano was untouched and dominating the first 15 min+ 6 bases almost to 3/4 bases taking down nightends 4th twice. then he creates 20+BLs really fast with fast upgrades so he has no static defenses (lackadaisical) so obviously he gets overrun by harass... but his army is twice Nightends pure stalker army (no archons)) And how is that a "travesty" sounds like inferior strategic play. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:23 TheDougler wrote: Alright! Got my stream going, lets do it HuK! Map is Tal Darim alter, Vibe in top left, HuK in bottom right. Nothing crazy so far, forge first vs 15 pool 16 hatch, hatch goes down at Vibe's third due to HuK's probe at the natural and there's no rocks at the third there on TDA anymore. ok i'll let you do this one :D | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:23 TheDougler wrote: 3rd hatch goes down, HuK going for cannoning, Overlord spots, sends ling, HuK cancel's pylon, loses initial probe. Gases starting to go down for Vibe at 44 supply. So far just two gases. | ||
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stephenrau
468 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:23 nvs. wrote: And how is that a "travesty" sounds like inferior strategic play. I'm referencing all the people saying ZERG OP, which may or may not be true, but Nightend did not significantly outplay Stephano. Unlike Hero outplaying Leenock. And Huk *was* outplaying Vibe for the most part but didn't execute well enough to win, so I just didn't want to hear any Zerg Op crap. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:25 TheDougler wrote: Gases starting to go down for Vibe at 44 supply. So far just two gases. Roach warren goes down, HuK sends a zealot out, reinforces with 4 more at Vibe's third | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
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askmc70
United States722 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:26 TheDougler wrote: Roach warren goes down, HuK sends a zealot out, reinforces with 4 more at Vibe's third Vibe holds at his third without losing too much, HuK throws down a third. HuK loses a stalker in the middle of the map | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:27 TheDougler wrote: Vibe holds at his third without losing too much, HuK throws down a third. HuK loses a stalker in the middle of the map HuK holds a little poke at his third. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
HuK takes Vibe's 4th down to 25% HP Dark shrine is about 75% complete. HuK loses that pylon above Vibe's 4th. | ||
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stephenrau
468 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:27 Fubi wrote: I don't get this, if this is really MLG vs Proleague, why are they making everyone from the same side play against each other first in the playoffs? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:29 TheDougler wrote: HuK takes Vibe's 4th down to 25% HP Dark shrine is about 75% complete. HuK loses that pylon above Vibe's 4th. Vibe takes a ton of bases, and starts muta production. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:30 TheDougler wrote: Vibe takes a ton of bases, and starts muta production. DTs take out some drones and two hatcheries. Vibe's mining off of two base, supplies at 131 to 113 in vibe's favor. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:26 stephenrau wrote: I'm referencing all the people saying ZERG OP, which may or may not be true, but Nightend did not significantly outplay Stephano. Unlike Hero outplaying Leenock. And Huk *was* outplaying Vibe for the most part but didn't execute well enough to win, so I just didn't want to hear any Zerg Op crap. well, its just depressing to see hero loosing because of such a small mistake, and i dont think that if you harass well its already outplaying someone if you cant take your engagements properly, you should blame yourself because you did everything right except this engagement and its your own fault, its not like z is op atm but the protosses are just not careful enough especially na and eu some kr protosses are very careful in their engagements such as hero or rain. thats why zergs are always on top in eu their main factor is macro and they do it pretty well, the only one who tries to take his engagements careful is mana. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:29 stephenrau wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational I understand how the format works; what I was asking is the rationale behind it, aka why? | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:31 TheDougler wrote: DTs take out some drones and two hatcheries. Vibe's mining off of two base, supplies at 131 to 113 in vibe's favor. Another hatch goes down, HuK's got a 40 supply lead but Vibe has a huge mineral bank. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:33 TheDougler wrote: Another hatch goes down, HuK's got a 40 supply lead but Vibe has a huge mineral bank. HELL YEAH! HuK pushes out with a huge stalker force and caught Vibe with his pants down. Vibe had his pants around his ankle's as DT's had been pantsing him for the last fifteen minutes. Lets go HuK! | ||
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zlo2
12 Posts
GO HuK! | ||
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stephenrau
468 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:32 Undead1993 wrote: well, its just depressing to see hero loosing because of such a small mistake, and i dont think that if you harass well its already outplaying someone if you cant take your engagements properly, you should blame yourself because you did everything right except this engagement and its your own fault, its not like z is op atm but the protosses are just not careful enough especially na and eu some kr protosses are very careful in their engagements such as hero or rain. thats why zergs are always on top in eu their main factor is macro and they do it pretty well, the only one who tries to take his engagements careful is mana. Well said, I get that the Zerg deathball is nearly unstoppable, but there are ways Protoss can win. Unfortunately it's too easy to neural the mothership, but if that doesn't happen, Protoss has chances on 2-3 base timings, or limiting the zerg economy. It's just that Stephano already built a killer (and well upgraded) army. | ||
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