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On October 15 2012 02:29 Swords wrote: Call me a skeptic, but against a stronger opponent I can't see that working.
Yeah he could never pull it off against someone like Mana
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On October 15 2012 02:29 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:27 CruelZeratul wrote: Kill third, retreat, profit. I don't get why he pushed it further. TLO was already at elfis base. He would get a massive blow to his economy and TLo could retreat with Nydus and don't lose his army while retaining 2 bases. TLO forced him into basetrade, it's how the build is planned.
Exactly, TLO would demolish his economy if he done that and would still have all his drones having only lost a hatchery.
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I still think the protoss player can just load up 2 immortals into the warp prism and snipe the nydus. Just micro against the spines like ZeNEXTREME does against roaches!
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Where's my 2GD Daily? Beautiful analysis.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
I think the correct response for the Protoss player is to ignore the third and Natural and head straigth into the main and kill the Spines before they are done
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On October 15 2012 02:29 CruelZeratul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:27 Greenei wrote: tlo might revolutionize the MU. this defense is SOLID. No, it's not. He could just retreat after sniping the third and defend with Sentries/Cannons. It's working because it is new.
Riiight. because TLO didn't do this 1000 times before on ladder/practise. He plays a build where he knows if the Toss turns around after killing the third he loses? I don't think so. He figured this build out over a period of time, practise and refinement.
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James summed up protoss pretty nicely there I must say, didn't know he had such deep knowledge of sc2!
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On October 15 2012 02:31 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:29 Swords wrote: Call me a skeptic, but against a stronger opponent I can't see that working. Yeah he could never pull it off against someone like Mana
Maybe not, but TLO did 2-1 Mana yesterday in convincing fashion.
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On October 15 2012 02:33 Vega62a wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:31 Pandain wrote:On October 15 2012 02:29 Swords wrote: Call me a skeptic, but against a stronger opponent I can't see that working. Yeah he could never pull it off against someone like Mana Maybe not, but TLO did 2-1 Mana yesterday in convincing fashion. -_-'
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On October 15 2012 02:32 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:29 CruelZeratul wrote:On October 15 2012 02:27 Greenei wrote: tlo might revolutionize the MU. this defense is SOLID. No, it's not. He could just retreat after sniping the third and defend with Sentries/Cannons. It's working because it is new. Riiight. because TLO didn't do this 1000 times before on ladder/practise. He plays a build where he knows if the Toss turns around after killing the third he loses? I don't think so. He figured this build out over a period of time, practise and refinement.
Doesn't mean to much if the oponents don't react accordingly because they don't have enough practice against that.
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On October 15 2012 02:34 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:33 Vega62a wrote:On October 15 2012 02:31 Pandain wrote:On October 15 2012 02:29 Swords wrote: Call me a skeptic, but against a stronger opponent I can't see that working. Yeah he could never pull it off against someone like Mana Maybe not, but TLO did 2-1 Mana yesterday in convincing fashion. -_-'
Meta troll!
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Also I'm pretty happy with the turn out of the tournament so far. The top 3 are all players I want to do well, so the result dosn't matter as much, enabling me to just enjoy the games for the games themselves Only improvement for me might have been Kas over Thorzain but we can't have everything can we ^_^
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Elfi had a sentry in his main base, waiting to ff the ramp. TLO got lucky / Efli made a big mistake and the sentry died.
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was any LCD asus monitor advertised during the tournament? Thanks in advance.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:31 oldahe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:29 Luolis wrote: Holy crap theres a shitton of TLO fans here :O we are everywhere! Everytime you kill one of the damn things 20 more pop up you can't be rid of them.
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On October 15 2012 02:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:31 oldahe wrote:On October 15 2012 02:29 Luolis wrote: Holy crap theres a shitton of TLO fans here :O we are everywhere! Everytime you kill one of the damn things 20 more pop up you can't be rid of them.
Well they havn't had a lot to cheer for in long time so let them have their fun until Thorzain executes him in the finals 
Edit: :OO hold up gogo Elfi
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On October 15 2012 02:31 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 02:29 Swords wrote: Call me a skeptic, but against a stronger opponent I can't see that working. Yeah he could never pull it off against someone like Mana
You realize Mana's worst matchup is Zerg and when interviewed said he feels like he has no idea what's he's doing in the MU currently.
Look, I'd love to see TLO do awesome stuff, but I'm not convinced it's actually a great strategy until I see it work against someone who's a real strong PvZ player - of which there aren't a lot of currently in Europe.
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What a bad engagement by TLO :/
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