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gold_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada312 Posts
November 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#381
I will be watching this tournament, this time! Good luck to everyone, go Naniwa! :D
I am from Canada, eh!
feebas
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland268 Posts
November 10 2012 13:06 GMT
#382
Pumped for this. Can't wait for the headwear.
paska peli
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 13:27:17
November 10 2012 13:22 GMT
#383
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database. I don't claim that it's perfect, but there you have it. ToD is pretty good.

Also, there could be some relative variation in the lower numbers because this is Monte Carlo simulation, not exact numbers. It doesn't make sense to directly compare players with so low percentages.

What I would take out of that list is that Stephano and Violet are the biggest favourites, and that Stc, Polt, Crank and Bomber could also take it. Other winners are extremely unlikely.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
lykkekage
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark107 Posts
November 10 2012 13:26 GMT
#384
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database.


Which just goes to show how bad the Elo ranking system is.

Plus, it hasnt been updated from MLG, where Naniwa had a very good run
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
November 10 2012 13:28 GMT
#385
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database. I don't claim that it's perfect, but there you have it. ToD is pretty good.

Also, there could be some relative variation in the lower numbers because this is Monte Carlo simulation, not exact numbers. It doesn't make sense to directly compare players with so low percentages.

What I would take out of that list is that Stephano and Violet are the biggest favourites, and that Stc, Polt, Crank and Bomber could also take it. Other winners are extremely unlikely.


Stephano isn't a favorite to win that in my opinion. Polt, Bomber, and Violet are the more likely winners.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
November 10 2012 13:29 GMT
#386
My prediction is Azubu.Violet to win.

*burp*
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 13:31:34
November 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#387
On November 10 2012 22:26 lykkekage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database.

Which just goes to show how bad the Elo ranking system is.

Plus, it hasnt been updated from MLG, where Naniwa had a very good run

Elo is a rating system, not a ranking system, and it's not bad. It has deficiencies, but TLPD Elo is best we have for SC2.

And yeah, the lack of updates grinds my gears.

Not sure what to do about it. Maybe I can apply for a job. ^^
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#388
On November 10 2012 22:28 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database. I don't claim that it's perfect, but there you have it. ToD is pretty good.

Also, there could be some relative variation in the lower numbers because this is Monte Carlo simulation, not exact numbers. It doesn't make sense to directly compare players with so low percentages.

What I would take out of that list is that Stephano and Violet are the biggest favourites, and that Stc, Polt, Crank and Bomber could also take it. Other winners are extremely unlikely.

Stephano isn't a favorite to win that in my opinion. Polt, Bomber, and Violet are the more likely winners.

Depends how you word it.

I would agree that it's more likely that Polt, Bomber or Violet win than that Stephano win.

I would not agree that Polt, Bomber and Violet wins are each, individually, more likely than a Stephano win.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Demonidze
Profile Joined May 2012
194 Posts
November 10 2012 13:42 GMT
#389
how long until it starts?
TheBrainiac
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
November 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#390
On November 10 2012 22:42 Demonidze wrote:
how long until it starts?


I'm pretty sure it starts in 3 hours.
I like the moment I break a man's ego.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
November 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#391
On November 10 2012 22:35 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:28 Godwrath wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database. I don't claim that it's perfect, but there you have it. ToD is pretty good.

Also, there could be some relative variation in the lower numbers because this is Monte Carlo simulation, not exact numbers. It doesn't make sense to directly compare players with so low percentages.

What I would take out of that list is that Stephano and Violet are the biggest favourites, and that Stc, Polt, Crank and Bomber could also take it. Other winners are extremely unlikely.

Stephano isn't a favorite to win that in my opinion. Polt, Bomber, and Violet are the more likely winners.

Depends how you word it.

I would agree that it's more likely that Polt, Bomber or Violet win than that Stephano win.

I would not agree that Polt, Bomber and Violet wins are each, individually, more likely than a Stephano win.


It's what i am implying. Any of those will trump Stephano

Didn't you see yesterday's games Stephano vs lucifron ?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 10 2012 13:57 GMT
#392
No, I didn't. We shall see.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 10 2012 14:03 GMT
#393
TB's greatness is wholly portrayed in all his overblown photographic grandeur, while Naniwa's picture... well.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
November 10 2012 14:04 GMT
#394
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
      qxc: 0.000%

So harsh on qxc :p

Let's see if your top 6 holds up.

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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 10 2012 14:04 GMT
#395
On November 10 2012 22:26 lykkekage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database.


Which just goes to show how bad the Elo ranking system is.

Plus, it hasnt been updated from MLG, where Naniwa had a very good run

The Elo is pretty good, it just doesn't work as well in Starcraft.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 10 2012 14:07 GMT
#396
Elo is rubbish. You judge how well a player will do in a tournament by recent performances, what their best and worst Matchups are, what race their opponents are and their respective best and worst Matchups, and the maps being played.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
November 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#397
TSL.Polt is such a cutie. Would love to see him take this, although obviously he pretty much always seems to be an underdog.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 14:24:01
November 10 2012 14:23 GMT
#398
On November 10 2012 23:07 Incomplet wrote:
Elo is rubbish. You judge how well a player will do in a tournament by recent performances, what their best and worst Matchups are, what race their opponents are and their respective best and worst Matchups, and the maps being played.

Elo does judge a player by recent performances. My system also does take into account their matchups, the opponent's races and their matchup stats too. So everything seems fine except for the maps. I'm just trying to do it in a strictly objective manner.

Elo has problems, but those are not it.
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Demonidze
Profile Joined May 2012
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 14:30:27
November 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#399
On November 10 2012 22:56 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:35 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:28 Godwrath wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:22 TheBB wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:55 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:56 TheBB wrote:
Anyway, here are some numbers for y'all. If my calculations are correct, the MLP season 3 premiere should finish just before this tournament starts, yielding optimal viewing experiences for all involved.

There is a 2 in 3 chance that a Zerg will win this tournament (Stephano and Violet.)

There is also almost a 2 in 3 chance that a Korean will win.

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Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 36.162%
      viOLet: 32.284%
      TheStC: 13.646%
      Polt: 7.286%
      CranK: 5.296%
      Bomber: 4.296%
      Sheth: 0.350%
      Hawk: 0.180%
      BabyKnight: 0.166%
      ToD: 0.164%
      GanZi: 0.080%
      NaNiwa: 0.046%
      Ret: 0.028%
      ThorZaIN: 0.010%
      Axslav: 0.006%
      qxc: 0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.280 rounds (top 3)
      viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.981 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.803 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.628 rounds (top 4)
      Bomber: 2.834 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.887 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.639 rounds (top 8)
      Ret: 1.453 rounds (top 12)
      BabyKnight: 1.322 rounds (top 12)
      NaNiwa: 1.280 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.151 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 0.998 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.910 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.482 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.419 rounds (top 16)

ToD more likely to win than Naniwa? Yeah i think you missed a class ^^

ToD has 45 more Elo points than Naniwa in the international database. I don't claim that it's perfect, but there you have it. ToD is pretty good.

Also, there could be some relative variation in the lower numbers because this is Monte Carlo simulation, not exact numbers. It doesn't make sense to directly compare players with so low percentages.

What I would take out of that list is that Stephano and Violet are the biggest favourites, and that Stc, Polt, Crank and Bomber could also take it. Other winners are extremely unlikely.

Stephano isn't a favorite to win that in my opinion. Polt, Bomber, and Violet are the more likely winners.

Depends how you word it.

I would agree that it's more likely that Polt, Bomber or Violet win than that Stephano win.

I would not agree that Polt, Bomber and Violet wins are each, individually, more likely than a Stephano win.


It's what i am implying. Any of those will trump Stephano

Didn't you see yesterday's games Stephano vs lucifron ?

agree, Lucifron trashed Stephano yesterday. so excited to see how he will perform today.
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November 10 2012 14:32 GMT
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On November 10 2012 23:21 Ryka wrote:
TSL.Polt is such a cutie. Would love to see him take this, although obviously he pretty much always seems to be an underdog.


Polt the underdog? Not at this tournament.
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