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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1181
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

Maybe an explanation if there's a viewer drop, I don't know.

Come on Luci, I want him to advance so badly.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1182
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start


Singapore! Singapore! Singapore!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1183
On September 23 2012 21:03 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

How is your reply relevant to this thread?

Boom!
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1184
On September 23 2012 21:03 MCDayC wrote:
I really wish I was still interested in F1, for whatever reason my interest this year has completely dropped off, but I can't work out why.


Happend to me last year.
I think Redbull domination was a bit too hard.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1185
On September 23 2012 21:03 MCDayC wrote:
I really wish I was still interested in F1, for whatever reason my interest this year has completely dropped off, but I can't work out why.

bbc doesnt broadcast all the events this year
IM & EG supporter
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1186
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

Link?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1187
On September 23 2012 21:02 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:00 Shikyo wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:57 yoigen wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:55 xrapture wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:48 Noocta wrote:
I'm sad Mech is actually better than Biomech now if your control isn't top korean level.


Which is why I don't mech on ladder. My mechanics won't improve as fast using a style where anything other than a move is optional.


That is bullshit. Playing mech takes way more than 1a lol.

well it's less micro-demanding than marine/tank or pure bio at least

Less micro demanding than pure bio? Siege tanks are far more difficult to control than bio ...

once their sieged theres not much control really, besides targetting, compared to the stim and split and spread of marines.

Sieging tanks is far more difficult to me than anything to do with bio though... It's a far bigger committment. Move wrong way with marines? run back. Siege wrong with tanks? Grats you lost all.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iglocska
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway589 Posts
September 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#1188
On September 23 2012 21:03 kollin wrote:
Lucifron is looking so, so good at the moment and he's only had a summer of proper practice. I'm really interested to see where he will go in the future ^^

Indeed. His play is really stunning. Is he playing full-time?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1189
On September 23 2012 21:03 AgentChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

just letting ppl who wants to watch f1 now about it, so they can watch both at the same time like me
for the record liverpool vs man u starting in half an hour


COME ON LIVERPOOL!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1190
On September 23 2012 21:04 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

Link?

you dont have a tv ?
IM & EG supporter
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1191
On September 23 2012 21:03 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

How is your reply relevant to this thread?


Its relevant unless you want everyone to make posts about random events happening all over the globe.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1192
On September 23 2012 21:04 iglocska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:03 kollin wrote:
Lucifron is looking so, so good at the moment and he's only had a summer of proper practice. I'm really interested to see where he will go in the future ^^

Indeed. His play is really stunning. Is he playing full-time?


He only started playing full time over this summer.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1193
On September 23 2012 20:56 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:55 xrapture wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:48 Noocta wrote:
I'm sad Mech is actually better than Biomech now if your control isn't top korean level.


Which is why I don't mech on ladder. My mechanics won't improve as fast using a style where anything other than a move is optional.

once zergs refigure out how to tech switch between muta and roach against mech it will suck again.


The power of "tech switches" in ZvT vs mech is really overstated and really misleading.

If you try to play a tech switchy, heavy aggression style like your suggesting, then what you have is a small (medium if forgoing upgrades) sampling of both roaches and mutas, neither of which are particuarly deadly until hitting critical mass.

What's "truly" powerful in tech switches is large, sudden tech switches like when suddenly you make 20 mutas. But to be able to so easily tech switch like that you need to have 5 bases to easily change your army composiion. By going a huge tech switch it gives you alot of map control and suprise factor, and you can definitely do some damage, but its at the cost of forgoing a faster hive which leads the "ticking time bomb" of a 200-200 mech push to be oh so stronger.

I think what your suggesting is that they quickly switch as SOON as they push with either roaches/mutas. So that Terran is never at ease. But this is so misleading in that you think that good mech players solely counter roaches with tanks and solely counter mutas with thors.

Mech players positionally place Turrets vs muta switches, and top level mech players add in a few thors as well as they're dealing with roaches. They naturally deal with the "small" tech switches of 8-10 mutas or 20 sudden roaches, because honestly two thors aren't too bad vs roaches when supported by tanks(they act as "tanks" to the tanks, teheheehe).


Also, to be able to constantly tech switch like you suggest means that the zerg has suffered little to no drone losses, because if they lose even 10-15 drones to some hellions, then thats a full wave of units spent replenishing drones. Then you lose the "timing" that tech switches offer, the heavy aggression style. And that's why your statement is a misnomer.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1194
how many fucking transfuses do these queens have? do they have a moebius reactor up in there or something?
PGtour admin
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#1195
On September 23 2012 21:03 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

How is your reply relevant to this thread?


Do flowers have feelings?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2012 12:06 GMT
#1196
On September 23 2012 21:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:02 andaylin wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:00 Shikyo wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:57 yoigen wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:55 xrapture wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:48 Noocta wrote:
I'm sad Mech is actually better than Biomech now if your control isn't top korean level.


Which is why I don't mech on ladder. My mechanics won't improve as fast using a style where anything other than a move is optional.


That is bullshit. Playing mech takes way more than 1a lol.

well it's less micro-demanding than marine/tank or pure bio at least

Less micro demanding than pure bio? Siege tanks are far more difficult to control than bio ...

once their sieged theres not much control really, besides targetting, compared to the stim and split and spread of marines.

Sieging tanks is far more difficult to me than anything to do with bio though... It's a far bigger committment. Move wrong way with marines? run back. Siege wrong with tanks? Grats you lost all.

Ah yes, I forgot that stimmed Marines were faster than 4,7 or 6,11 movespeed Zerglings...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 23 2012 12:06 GMT
#1197
Oh shit, this could be terrible.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 23 2012 12:06 GMT
#1198
On September 23 2012 21:05 AgentChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:04 Dosey wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

Link?

you dont have a tv ?

Nope
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
September 23 2012 12:06 GMT
#1199
Hero marine on the watchtower.

Targa flew right through vision
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 23 2012 12:06 GMT
#1200
On September 23 2012 21:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 21:03 Beyonder wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 21:02 AgentChaos wrote:
f1 singapore about to start

How is this relevant for this game?

How is your reply relevant to this thread?


Do flowers have feelings?

Well... do they?
Glorious SEA doto
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