• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:35
CEST 05:35
KST 12:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2088 users

TSL4 Semifinals - Page 16

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 29 Next All
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 20:19:13
September 01 2012 20:18 GMT
#301
Maybe ghosts next time Sting >_<
...and SCV pull is just useless vs Colossus
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 01 2012 20:18 GMT
#302
Artosis just called Creator a diamond protoss?! so BM
+ Show Spoiler +
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
September 01 2012 20:18 GMT
#303
Typical way of how my TvPs go. ;__;
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 01 2012 20:19 GMT
#304
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 20:19:38
September 01 2012 20:19 GMT
#305
On September 02 2012 05:16 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
thats pretty boring ._.

No reason to be ballsy with protoss vs T. All you need to do is defend until you have 3/3 collosus/archons and you're set.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
September 01 2012 20:19 GMT
#306
sting really enjoys throwing units away trying to do multi-pronged attacks. creator just trading well all game and way ahead on upgrades.
antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
September 01 2012 20:19 GMT
#307
My boy Creator
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
September 01 2012 20:20 GMT
#308
Wow I really want Sting to take this but Creator looks unstoppable at this point TT
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
September 01 2012 20:20 GMT
#309
On September 02 2012 05:17 Whatson wrote:
Creator makes PvT look so imbalanced

You have to play tvp like thorzain does were you have a really passive midgame so you can have time to get those essential 10-14 ghosts and +2 vikings.

you can also play like taeja and just rape, but you have to be on another level then your opponent
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
September 01 2012 20:20 GMT
#310
Still the tournament with the best artwork imo.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
elanobissen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark244 Posts
September 01 2012 20:20 GMT
#311
On September 02 2012 05:19 Tayar wrote:
sting really enjoys throwing units away trying to do multi-pronged attacks. creator just trading well all game and way ahead on upgrades.


What do you want him to do? Sit there and let him max with 3/3 uncontested?
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#312
On September 02 2012 05:19 TheDwf wrote:
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.

Taeja did once in IPL TAC, and he did 5-3 him in IPL FC. Puma too i think, IPL4
¯\_(シ)_/¯
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
September 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#313
On September 02 2012 05:20 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 05:17 Whatson wrote:
Creator makes PvT look so imbalanced

You have to play tvp like thorzain does were you have a really passive midgame so you can have time to get those essential 10-14 ghosts and +2 vikings.

you can also play like taeja and just rape, but you have to be on another level then your opponent

Thorzain couldn't get it to work against Hasu.
Doubt it would work much better agains Creator.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 20:23:29
September 01 2012 20:22 GMT
#314
On September 02 2012 05:19 TheDwf wrote:
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.


Jjakji beat the hell out of him in IPL games, but that was a while ago now.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1979&part=games&vs=2838&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=16&to_year=2012&to_month=7&to_day=28&action=Update
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
September 01 2012 20:22 GMT
#315
On September 02 2012 05:15 Tachion wrote:
viewership is disappointing for TSL semis


no foreigner in top8, major is the only one to win a series vs korean, no upsets happening, no storyline, it's just another tournament where koreans wreck foreigners and fight each other to the gold medal at this time, and an online one of that...
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 01 2012 20:22 GMT
#316
On September 02 2012 05:20 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 05:17 Whatson wrote:
Creator makes PvT look so imbalanced

You have to play tvp like thorzain does were you have a really passive midgame so you can have time to get those essential 10-14 ghosts and +2 vikings.

Passivity is never a good idea in TvP. It did not go well anyway when he tried to split map against Hasu on Daybreak.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 20:24:53
September 01 2012 20:22 GMT
#317
On September 02 2012 05:20 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 05:17 Whatson wrote:
Creator makes PvT look so imbalanced

You have to play tvp like thorzain does were you have a really passive midgame so you can have time to get those essential 10-14 ghosts and +2 vikings.

you can also play like taeja and just rape, but you have to be on another level then your opponent

Oh im not complaining about PvT imbalance or whatever, Creator plays on a different level than almost every other Protoss players. Creator and PartinG are the two Protoss players who I feel have set themselves apart from the rest in PvT, PartinG with templars, Creator with Collosi.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 01 2012 20:23 GMT
#318
On September 02 2012 05:19 TheDwf wrote:
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.

It happens. TaeJa, MKP, Jjakji, Bomber, Gumiho can handle lategame TvP and occasionally win vs Creator/Parting.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
September 01 2012 20:24 GMT
#319
On September 02 2012 05:23 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 05:19 TheDwf wrote:
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.

It happens. TaeJa, MKP, Jjakji, Bomber, Gumiho can handle lategame TvP and occasionally win vs Creator/Parting.


Kas beat parting 1-2 days ago
antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
September 01 2012 20:24 GMT
#320
On September 02 2012 05:23 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 05:19 TheDwf wrote:
Who wins Creator in standard TvP macro games? I remember Bomber in a good day stomping him in a spectacular fashion on this map (Daybreak), but otherwise I rarely see him lose.

It happens. TaeJa, MKP, Jjakji, Bomber, Gumiho can handle lategame TvP and occasionally win vs Creator/Parting.


Add Mvp and Thorzain and the list is complete
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO16 TieBreaker - Group A
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 201
ProTech20
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 84
Nal_rA 39
NaDa 19
Icarus 2
910 1
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm533
ROOTCatZ4
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 700
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King38
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
summit1g10641
Fnx 1072
WinterStarcraft315
ViBE145
kaitlyn40
amsayoshi26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1079
BasetradeTV171
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 63
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1009
Other Games
• Scarra2389
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 25m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
7h 25m
MaxPax vs SHIN
Clem vs Classic
Ladder Legends
11h 25m
Solar vs GgMaChine
Bunny vs Cham
ByuN vs MaxPax
BSL
15h 25m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 25m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.