On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
lol go ahead and look at the replays So Life has more eAPM/better mechanics than DRG? I highly doubt that, and since you posted that statement, I demand proof.
keyword in the initial post is "seems", my impression is purely based on the games I've seen from both and how I perceived them, I also haven't really said that I consider life to be better than DRG, looks to me that I'm not the one with difficulty in english comprehension.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
lol go ahead and look at the replays So Life has more eAPM/better mechanics than DRG? I highly doubt that, and since you posted that statement, I demand proof.
keyword in the initial post is "seems", my impression is purely based on the games I've seen from both and how I perceived them, I also haven't really said that I consider life to be better than DRG, looks to me that I'm not the one with difficulty in english comprehension.
On August 31 2012 14:49 TommyP wrote: [quote] Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
i dont get how ur trying to defend drg? by saying mkp is in a bigger slump?
because the guy that started it all has a Prime thing so I thougth I would ask him if DRG is in a slump, then what is MKP in?
doesnt change the fact i am a drg fan as well, and i dont actually like mkp CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF. drg is in a slump, face reality and facts.
Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
yeah just weird that both leenock and idra both are zerg huh? because no other pro has one bad matchup
I mean, what's the point of saying DRG is "slumping terribly" when it's been only one month since his results seem to be deteriorating ? Idk, maybe he just had some summer vacations ? Do you have to make such an argument about that ?
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
It's not one run, and if you've followed first, you'd realize how good he is and that he's still growing. First couple times he played taeja, taeja schooled him hard. However in MLG championships and tsl, first picked taeja apart.
Before MLG summer championships, First had already beaten leenock 2-1 in another tourney. Leenock just prepared for first better and exploited his faults.
If you're talking about fundamentals, it's pretty obvious that leenock is the more coinflippy player and is more willing to take risks than to rely on his fundamentals and mechanics. First will usually choose to macro and win through solid fundamentals than to use coin flippy builds.
Wow, I tuned in only to see that the stream was over, so I popped over here to check out recommended games. I have to agree strongly with everyone who voted 'da fuq' for game 1. I honestly don't know why anyone voted yes, clearly 'da fuq' is the correct answer.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
Ahah so true . :D
i think it is really stupid of people to discount him because he lost to leenock one of the best zergs in the world, when pvz is clearly his weakest mu right now, u cant slump and be at your peak in one day lol
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
yeah just weird that both leenock and idra both are zerg huh? because no other pro has one bad matchup
But Leenock and Idra's weakest matchup is ZvP... Also, in korea, First's worst matchup is vT and his vZ is actually pretty good (beating B4, Coca, Revival in TSL4). So I guess his best and worst matchup switched when he flew over timezones...
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