(Vote): Violet and Oz (Vote): Violet and Ryung (Vote): Violet and Life (Vote): Violet and StC (Vote): Oz and Ryung (Vote): Oz and Life (Vote): Oz and StC (Vote): Ryung and Life (Vote): Ryung and StC (Vote): Life and StC
Poll: Who stands the best chance of making it to the Code S Ro8?
Ryung (11)
35%
StC (7)
23%
Violet (6)
19%
Life (6)
19%
Oz (1)
3%
31 total votes
Your vote: Who stands the best chance of making it to the Code S Ro8?
Good god what a group. Probably won't result in any crazy tiebreakers like yesterday, but I can't imagine this one not being satisfying. Everyone deserves code S and literally any combination of players sounds like a good match to me.
I both hope and expect: Life, Violet to get code S.
Life more than anyone I hope, as I've expected him to be one of the great Zerg's of the future for some time now. He needs to go join Symbol in code S. Was the next great player to be poached from Zenex too before the entire team got assimilated by Startale xD.
Hm, I was watching viOlet stream the other day and his manager said he wouldn't be playing the Up and Downs, his plan was to focus on foreign tournaments. Wondering why GOM hasn't made the announcement...
On August 31 2012 10:07 Popkiller wrote: Hm, I was watching viOlet stream the other day and his manager said he wouldn't be playing the Up and Downs, his plan was to focus on foreign tournaments. Wondering why GOM hasn't made the announcement...
On August 31 2012 10:07 Popkiller wrote: Hm, I was watching viOlet stream the other day and his manager said he wouldn't be playing the Up and Downs, his plan was to focus on foreign tournaments. Wondering why GOM hasn't made the announcement...
Maybe he's actually there?
Yeah I am really confused. I thought it was certain that viOLet wasn't playing in the Up and Downs, but nothing has been said about it at all. He went back to Texas after MLG.
On August 31 2012 13:06 TommyP wrote: Well first off, is there a reason you post 10 songs in a thread that has nothing to do with songs? Secondly, you made a different post for each one?
Up/Down Matches play K-pop before the matches it's what I do because people want to know what they are. You can check the other Up/Down threads.
I wasn't checking the thread actually or else I would have, for it to stay relevant to the timeline of the playing of the song I post a new post for it yes unless there wasn't anyone talking but I assumed people would be so my fault for that I suppose.
On August 31 2012 13:06 TommyP wrote: Well first off, is there a reason you post 10 songs in a thread that has nothing to do with songs? Secondly, you made a different post for each one?
He is just posting the links of the songs played on the stream so people can watch them again if they want to, I guess he could edit his initial post tho, doesn't really matter though!
On August 31 2012 13:06 TommyP wrote: Well first off, is there a reason you post 10 songs in a thread that has nothing to do with songs? Secondly, you made a different post for each one?
On August 31 2012 13:06 TommyP wrote: Well first off, is there a reason you post 10 songs in a thread that has nothing to do with songs? Secondly, you made a different post for each one?
lol? This is always done. If it isn't then there are always people asking what the current song is, and as it is we even still get people asking about songs played here over at KMD. -_-
On August 31 2012 13:06 TommyP wrote: Well first off, is there a reason you post 10 songs in a thread that has nothing to do with songs? Secondly, you made a different post for each one?
lol? This is always done. If it isn't then there are always people asking what the current song is, and as it is we even still get people asking about songs played here over at KMD. -_-
I wasnt being a dick, i was actually asking a question.
I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
where up and down dates even released? plus he didnt give up on gsl he may still come for code a
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Players have to pick and choose from tournaments all the time...
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
He played out the season he got seeded into. Although I kind of agree, I never thought he would play GSL in the first place.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
i think they were just saying that for pr, he didnt even go to mlg which he was so much closer to
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
i think they were just saying that for pr, he didnt even go to mlg which he was so much closer to
But he did go to MLG, he just forfeited one match.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
i think they were just saying that for pr, he didnt even go to mlg which he was so much closer to
But he did go to MLG, he just forfeited one match.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
i think they were just saying that for pr, he didnt even go to mlg which he was so much closer to
But he did go to MLG, he just forfeited one match.
u sure? i could of swore he didnt go at all
100% positive
Marcus Eklöf @EGThorZaIN I tried to play my losers bracket match after forfeiting wb due to being sick but i lost 0-2 vs root puck. At least i tried.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Thorzain had an illness.
Yes he does, but he also said he wants to focus on WCS EU instead of play GSL.
i think they were just saying that for pr, he didnt even go to mlg which he was so much closer to
But he did go to MLG, he just forfeited one match.
u sure? i could of swore he didnt go at all
100% positive
Marcus Eklöf @EGThorZaIN I tried to play my losers bracket match after forfeiting wb due to being sick but i lost 0-2 vs root puck. At least i tried.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
who doesnt take gom seriously? kespa sure as hell does and how is illness not reasonable?
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
I certainly hope he isn't given a code S seed again, which he won't be.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
Hahaha lay off, you realize, chances are, he won't ever get a seed again, right?
Should he have had the foresight to realize he wouldn't want to play this season of GSL? Sure, maybe. But he took the seed, got to Ro16, did his time in Code A, finished Season 3, and that's it. Worse things have happened.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
I think that you and many other BW-kespa fans have developed some sort of Stockholm Syndrome. An open league that will let you go play elsewhere and not penalize you is a good thing, not a bad one.
As for "Getting a seed"... Violet didn't get a seed into the up and downs, he got a Code S one last season, and as far as I know, most foreigners that get the seed leave Korea after one season (at this point Violet counts as a foreigner). GOM must know that, and they still give seeds to foreigners.
Personally, I support this because I would still rather watch a foreigner that is in Korea for 1 season than a bunch of Koreans that never come to foreign tournaments.
On August 31 2012 13:22 Arceus wrote: I think violet treat the supposedly prestigious GSL seed like shit. He should be banned from GSL imo. You cant just be like 'foreign tourney ftw, fuck gsl'. If it's so, he should have not participated last season
Thorzain did the same thing. ForGG also left Code A last season
Yea what a shame. GOM should get their policy strict in order to compete with OSL for the best league there is
I prefer Gom's laid back style compared to KeSPA's Hitler-esque approach.
Im talking about league organizing, not management. Ppl wont take GSL seriously this way. Getting a seed is a big favor, ditch GSL for foreign tourneys whaat? If your reasoning is not reasonable (illness/flight/etc) aka you lack commitment to the league, you shouldnt be allowed to play at all
I certainly hope he isn't given a code S seed again, which he won't be.
He never wanted one in the first place but iirc he had to go back to Korea anyway so why not give Code S a shot while there. Before getting that seed he said he had no interest in GSL and he obviously still does not.
On August 31 2012 13:53 Mask DeMasque wrote: Khaldor has got all the variables of the group on lock... so prepared
Thanks I try hard to not miss anything, it's sometimes really complicated to calculate everything on the spot while we are still on camera but so far so good :D
How crazy was Life vs. Ryung btw? Loving the games today!
On August 31 2012 13:53 Mask DeMasque wrote: Khaldor has got all the variables of the group on lock... so prepared
How crazy was Life vs. Ryung btw? Loving the games today!
I missed it watching Red Bull LAN D: I'll have to catch that VOD between the two groups tonight. I'm watching now though. Keep up the great casting, you two =)
On August 31 2012 13:53 Mask DeMasque wrote: Khaldor has got all the variables of the group on lock... so prepared
How crazy was Life vs. Ryung btw? Loving the games today!
I missed it watching Red Bull LAN D: I'll have to catch that VOD between the two groups tonight. I'm watching now though. Keep up the great casting, you two =)
u might not have time to watch it between the groups it was crazy long
On August 31 2012 14:03 Majynx wrote: Just tuning in now....it can end this next game?? Is there a reason that Violet decided to forfeit his place in the up & down matches?
Violet lives in the US... Doesn't wanna have to keep flying to korea. He played in Code S cuz he had to be in Korea anyways at that point
On August 31 2012 14:16 Condor Hero wrote: jesus STC just build bunkers... i wonder whats worse, using up a few hundred minerals or LOSING THE WHOLE GAME
I love how Life is completely off the hook, taking every risk in the book, finding every opportunity to be way, way too aggressive. And it even works. Fun to watch!
Whoever theSTC faces next, he will cheese. 99% positive. Which is why he is the only player I hope not to make out of this group. I have no quarrel with anyone else making it out of the group.
Fungal good spell. Stc took so long to build up a decent tank count (and his combat shields were very late too) so the infestors pretty much had free reign, and when Stc finally got enough tanks the brood lords were out.
On August 31 2012 14:20 usethis2 wrote: Whoever theSTC faces next, he will cheese. 99% positive. Which is why he is the only player I hope not to make out of this group. I have no quarrel with anyone else making it out of the group.
On August 31 2012 14:18 AxionSteel wrote: Horrible game.
Horrible? It was really fun to watch
I imagine he means in terms of execution. Both of them played really sloppy.
Are you kidding? Life was always sending units in all directions and attacking everywhere while popping out 8 BL's from nowhere. You'll never see games like this from foreign players because not high enough apm.
On August 31 2012 14:18 AxionSteel wrote: Horrible game.
Horrible? It was really fun to watch
I imagine he means in terms of execution. Both of them played really sloppy.
Are you kidding? Life was always sending units in all directions and attacking everywhere while popping out 8 BL's from nowhere. You'll never see games like this from foreign players because not high enough apm.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
oz beat stephano and other top zergs recently using his very good fast third/voidray macro build into 18minute 200food +3 stalker/collossi attack that seemed to run circles around stephano because the build seemed to literally be safe against all zerg pressure
dunno why didnt use that build here. probably hated the map.
super good tosses like oz can look horribad if they end up using bad builds, as we saw tonite
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
I was critical of Oz's overly greedy play from day 1. Why the fuck did he think he needed a 3rd at that point in game? Seriously? Same as in his game against STC.
Oz's success in the past was largely based on opponents' not catching his greedy plays. You can't expect people won't notice for so long.
On August 31 2012 14:41 usethis2 wrote: I was critical of Oz's overly greedy play from day 1. Why the fuck did he think he needed a 3rd at that point in game? Seriously? Same as in his game against STC.
Oz's success in the past was largely based on opponents' not catching his greedy plays.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
drg atm is no better than someone like hyun..... and life> hyun
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG peaks at 600 apm, but ill just assume you are trolling or dont know english very well.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
also didnt know Losing to MC, Hero, Creator and then Effort is slumping massively.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
DRG is playing horribly lately. Stop being a fanboy and maybe go watch his actual games. I said he's in better shape than DRG right now, which he is, regardless of what results DRG has managed to post months ago. Yes, months ago. I hesitate to even call DRG a Top 5 Zerg with his play lately.
All this without mentioning that Jangbi just got finished playing a finals for BW. He's atrocious at SC2. He and Fantasy are the two players with least SC2 practice time.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
DRG is playing horribly lately. Stop being a fanboy and maybe go watch his actual games. I said he's in better shape than DRG right now, which he is, regardless of what results DRG has managed to post months ago. Yes, months ago. I hesitate to even call DRG a Top 5 Zerg with his play lately.
All this without mentioning that Jangbi just got finished playing a finals for BW. He's atrocious at SC2. He and Fantasy are the two players with least SC2 practice time.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG peaks at 600 apm, but ill just assume you are trolling or dont know english very well.
apm is related to speed, but doesn't imply it, mine hovers around 250, but I'm still a very slow player because most of it is spam and lacks precision which means I often have to do the same action multiple times, peaking 600 apm by pressing dddddd/zzzzzzzz or whatever doesn't say much.On another note, you should stop calling people trolls even though it's obvious that no trolling is involved, you should also stop resorting to ad hominem, both make it very hard to take whatever you say seriously.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
DRG is playing horribly lately. Stop being a fanboy and maybe go watch his actual games. I said he's in better shape than DRG right now, which he is, regardless of what results DRG has managed to post months ago. Yes, months ago. I hesitate to even call DRG a Top 5 Zerg with his play lately.
All this without mentioning that Jangbi just got finished playing a finals for BW. He's atrocious at SC2. He and Fantasy are the two players with least SC2 practice time.
Did you see Fantasy v. Nestea?
Yes, I saw Fantasy vs. NesTea. Fantasy floating 1k+ for the majority of the match and even banking up to 2k minerals @ 140 supply on three bases and then struggling to get his minerals under 1k for the rest of the match, even after he tried to spam CCs to use up his money. Sure, he showed some pretty dropshop harass, but any pro can dropship harass when they decide not to macro. He got lucky NesTea played like a foreigner that day. (Don't worry, would not put NesTea in Top 5 Zerg either, just in case you're offended.)
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
i think it is stupid to say that obviously hes hasnt been performing up to his standards lately but he got to ro4 gsl lost to mc and lost to leenock in gstl, which was the begining of his "slump". Would be hard to argue against drg being a top 3 terran even right now
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
lol go ahead and look at the replays So Life has more eAPM/better mechanics than DRG? I highly doubt that, and since you posted that statement, I demand proof.
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
i dont get how ur trying to defend drg? by saying mkp is in a bigger slump?
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
How does MKP's form even come into it? DRG until recently had lost something like 5/6 series in a row in various tournaments, a relative slump for a player of his calibre
On August 31 2012 14:47 TommyP wrote: [quote] Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
i dont get how ur trying to defend drg? by saying mkp is in a bigger slump?
because the guy that started it all has a Prime thing so I thougth I would ask him if DRG is in a slump, then what is MKP in?
On August 31 2012 14:44 babylon wrote: Well, he is certainly in better shape than DRG right now, lol.
Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
For the guy who is supposedly the best zerg in the world...yeah. And we're talking about actual games, not just score-lines. DRG looked completely lost against MC and HerO.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
i dont get how ur trying to defend drg? by saying mkp is in a bigger slump?
because the guy that started it all has a Prime thing so I thougth I would ask him if DRG is in a slump, then what is MKP in?
doesnt change the fact i am a drg fan as well, and i dont actually like mkp CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF. drg is in a slump, face reality and facts.
On August 31 2012 14:47 TommyP wrote: [quote] Some people uhh. DRG may have looked bad in WCS Korea, but where was Life (didnt qualify to my knowledge) DRG may have looked bad in round of 4, where was Life (Dreaming of playing in round of 4.) Also did I mention DRG just beat the defending OSL champion two days ago? Ill just assume youre trolling.
drg is slumping massively bro.... jangbi was never that good in sc2.
Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
For the guy who is supposedly the best zerg in the world...yeah. And we're talking about actual games, not just score-lines. DRG looked completely lost against MC and HerO.
Very true, he had some bad miss micros against MC and idk what the hell happened against Hero, but he looked better against Creator and obviously Jangbi was bo1 were he missed a FF so.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
lol go ahead and look at the replays So Life has more eAPM/better mechanics than DRG? I highly doubt that, and since you posted that statement, I demand proof.
keyword in the initial post is "seems", my impression is purely based on the games I've seen from both and how I perceived them, I also haven't really said that I consider life to be better than DRG, looks to me that I'm not the one with difficulty in english comprehension.
On August 31 2012 14:39 IshinShishi wrote: I don't see why Life would ever risk with a cheese , zerg is allowed to always play standard and he seems to be faster and more precise than DRG.
If he was faster and more precise than the guy that has won GSL and 2 MLGs this year because he is fast and precise, then he would be god.
he would be*, except for the fact that he likes cheesing too much.
idk how u got that idea, not that being super fast is the most important thing anyway u should know being an im fan, nestea and mvp are not the fastest but still the best
I dont like nestea that much at all, and the way I see it, speed is pretty much the most important thing for zerg.
DRG has around 300 eAPM consistently. Just saying.
I doubt that very much and I don't see why you are telling me this, I compared life's speed to DRG's after all.
lol go ahead and look at the replays So Life has more eAPM/better mechanics than DRG? I highly doubt that, and since you posted that statement, I demand proof.
keyword in the initial post is "seems", my impression is purely based on the games I've seen from both and how I perceived them, I also haven't really said that I consider life to be better than DRG, looks to me that I'm not the one with difficulty in english comprehension.
On August 31 2012 14:49 TommyP wrote: [quote] Massively? I think that would be a better word to describe MKP's slump.
LOL, blind drg fans ftw. dont deny fact, he is slumping terribly, i think even suhosin is better than drg atm
explain to me why you think DRG is in a slump.
I like DRG but have you seen his results recently? Only Oz of the players I keep an eye out for seems to be doing worse recently
Why dont you keep an eye out for MKP?
Not a massive fan of the guy. Saw him losing in OSL I think it was after choking massively but I don't see evidence of a bigger slump from what I've seen
Well people say DRG is in a slump because he lost in Round of 4, GSTL semi finals, and WCS Korea. When MKP didnt even qualify for any of those so...
i dont get how ur trying to defend drg? by saying mkp is in a bigger slump?
because the guy that started it all has a Prime thing so I thougth I would ask him if DRG is in a slump, then what is MKP in?
doesnt change the fact i am a drg fan as well, and i dont actually like mkp CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF. drg is in a slump, face reality and facts.
Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
yeah just weird that both leenock and idra both are zerg huh? because no other pro has one bad matchup
I mean, what's the point of saying DRG is "slumping terribly" when it's been only one month since his results seem to be deteriorating ? Idk, maybe he just had some summer vacations ? Do you have to make such an argument about that ?
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
It's not one run, and if you've followed first, you'd realize how good he is and that he's still growing. First couple times he played taeja, taeja schooled him hard. However in MLG championships and tsl, first picked taeja apart.
Before MLG summer championships, First had already beaten leenock 2-1 in another tourney. Leenock just prepared for first better and exploited his faults.
If you're talking about fundamentals, it's pretty obvious that leenock is the more coinflippy player and is more willing to take risks than to rely on his fundamentals and mechanics. First will usually choose to macro and win through solid fundamentals than to use coin flippy builds.
Wow, I tuned in only to see that the stream was over, so I popped over here to check out recommended games. I have to agree strongly with everyone who voted 'da fuq' for game 1. I honestly don't know why anyone voted yes, clearly 'da fuq' is the correct answer.
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
Ahah so true . :D
i think it is really stupid of people to discount him because he lost to leenock one of the best zergs in the world, when pvz is clearly his weakest mu right now, u cant slump and be at your peak in one day lol
On August 31 2012 15:15 usethis2 wrote: Last weekend in MLG thread I noticed IM_First's shaky PvZ against idra (we all know idra's ZvP) and said that we know not much about the guy so we need to reserve judgment. Well, to be frank I was a bit harsher - I said IM_First was nothing more than "toss of the month" until proven otherwise, considering the volatility of the weekend-format tournament.
I was immediately flamed by the mass - until his finals against Leenock, that was. Then people cried how shitty the finals were, how PvZ is imba, and how sucky IM_First was.
I mean, come on. One explosive tournament run, while admirable and praise-worthy, says nothing about the player's fundamentals.
first has had two great mlg's and seems pretty strong for being a new player
He has only been playing SC2 for like 8 months, so he is definitely getting to be a pretty decent player! He beat a lot of note worthy opponents at both Arena and Championship, he also got top4 in both! Can't understand why some ppl seems to think he is bad?!
Because TL has a short memory, that's why...
Because he was overrated when he lost to Idra, then became one of the best players in the world when he beat HerO and then Taeja but then slumped when he played Leenock.
yeah just weird that both leenock and idra both are zerg huh? because no other pro has one bad matchup
But Leenock and Idra's weakest matchup is ZvP... Also, in korea, First's worst matchup is vT and his vZ is actually pretty good (beating B4, Coca, Revival in TSL4). So I guess his best and worst matchup switched when he flew over timezones...
Ryung like a boss. Really hope he continues to shine, he's been really good for so long but never really showed it outside or a few matches here and there. Glad to see him getting recognition.
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