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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#901
On August 29 2012 20:11 imMUTAble787 wrote:
i want one of those sk telecom jackets


they are for sale ATM.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357097
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#902
On August 29 2012 20:11 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:08 sharkie wrote:
ESF players crumbling hard against the pressure.

This is the difference between pro and amateurs.

True. Still i prefere humans (ESF) to machines (KESPA).

Every time they showed players you could see how much emotionally MKP was ingame.


Elephants, not machines. You prefer humans to elephants.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#903
Marineking is not gonna win the OSL if he plays like this ;o
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#904
On August 29 2012 20:09 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:08 morlakaix wrote:
im a protoss player and honestly I have no idea how MKP lost this


To combat the protoss death ball you spread and arc. MKP kept running into a position where it was impossible to do that. If you try and kite a ball of units against storm, chargelots and colossus you're just gonna fucking die.


Marineking lost because he did not harass enough in the midgame and lost 5-6 ghosts for free.
He was maxed and didn't attack.

On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


No. Chargelot Immortal beats every mech composition.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#905
On August 29 2012 20:11 WArped wrote:
He's not out yet guys. He looks so devastated though, holy shit.

He wan't to get bisu fangirls...
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#906
On August 29 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


I don't think any professional player has ever had consistent success against a Protoss in a long game using mech. There are/were a few timing pushes, but not factory-based macro play.


hack had some success with mech but it was a short period and he doesnt do it anymore
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#907
when mkp won the first engagement and forced the cancel on the fourth he could have just ended it right there, or at least killed the third. You can't play that timid vs toss
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#908
MKP macro was always ahead but he just couldn't get a good engagement
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#909
it's Bo1, but it's round robin right? They aren't "eliminated" yet...?
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#910
and Daybreak is bad for terran. Really unlucky for MKP
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 11:13:09
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#911
On August 29 2012 20:11 CursedRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 opterown wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
OSL RO16 Group A Day 2
Match 2518

MarineKing <Daybreak> By.Rain

0:00
MKP spawns T2
Rain spawns P8
No funky daybreak reskin after all
No problems with the splits or anything.

1:00
Funny MKP cheerful shown!
MKP opens with a barracks, Rain with a gateway.

2:00
Scouting probe sent out
Both getting first gas
Scouting probe is blocked by depots

3:00
Orbital and core on the way
MKP builds a factory and a second gas
Warp gate starts at 3:45, stalker on the way (zealot was skipped)

4:00
Engineering bay block on the expo for Rain
MKP builds starport at 4:30, tech lab on factory
Stalkers attacking E-bay, forces cancel

5:00
Nexus goes up
Starport switched onto the tech lab, cloak asap
Bunker at the front
Rain adds 2 more gates? And a robo.

6:00
First banshee pops out
Nexus almost finished, CC starts for MKP at 6:43

7:00
Robo finishes, probes maynard.
Obs first
anshee at expo, cloaks, but rain pulls back well.
FOrces banshee away with Obs.

8:00
Second banshee in main, forced away again, but both are taking out pylons on the outside of the base
Double ebay up for MKP, third orbital on the way (missed third CC sorry)

9:00
Second orbital floats to natural
Rain still defending well with banshees
Supplies are 7x to 5x I think.

10:00
Double forge starts
MKP has a raven
Collosus bay on the way for rain. Immortals too
MKP adds 3 rax

11:00
One banshee falls
3 rax complete, medivac production occuring now.
+1/+1 on the way for both, MKP's ahead
Thermal lance on the way

12:00
More gates, twilight for Rain, blink on the way
MKP lands 3rd CC
Supplies 104-102, scouting factory sees Rain's composition

13:00
Nexus on the way (3rd)
Templar archives on the way, MKP builds second starport
2/2 for MKP on the way, not started for rain.
1/0 air for MKP on the way
Blink and Lance finish

14:00
Charge started
Templar archives finish
Some poking around the middle

15:00
MKP starts Vikings and fourth CC
2/2 starts for Rain
No storm yet
Terran up 160-140 what lol
DOOM DROP!!!
Catches collosus for free, driven back, leaves with 2 medivac. Didn't do that much

16:00
Zealot runby on MKP 3rd, drive away
Poking in the middle, bad engage by MKP
Wow how did mkp do that, takes out collosi and kites like a boss

17:00
3/3 starts for MKP
Storm almost done
2/2 finishes for Rain
77scv to 69 probes
Fourth for Rain
Some poking at Rain's watch tower

18:00
ENGAGE!!
MKP getting a good deal so far, does big damage.
FF the ramp.
MKP kills Rain's 4th
Zealot runby at MKP 3rd, quickly driven off
MKP takes out pylons around the map

19:00
5th CC on the way for MKP, 3/3 almost done.
6th CC on the way too lol
Some turrets and Ghost acad coming, +2 air attack on the way
Builds a watch tower

20:00
Rain restarts his 4th
Warp prism in the main, makes 4 zealots
Ghost energy researched
Rain tries to target ebays, but upgrades infish in time.
Engage in the middle!!
MKP looks good.
Storms, but MKP wades through them, takes out stuff.
Cleans up zealots in his main.

21:00
3 more CC on the way, what.
Zealot at the 4th.
5 ghosts on the way.
+3 air attack starts
Quad producing vikings.
4th restarted for Rain.

22:00
Ghost cloak starts
Another engage near Rain's 4th again, Ghosts EMP but are taken out, MKP looks good again
But rain reinforces and drives MKP back
Looks pretty stressed for MKP< rain looks calm.

23:00
Rain on 120 supply ish, MKP 160? not sure.
Zealot runbys not doing very much though
MKP only has 1 ghost atm.
170-130 supplies
Planetary randomly in the map.

24:00
More poking near Rain's watch tower, lots of collosi, Storms are good!
Rain looks solid here, MKP starts kiting madly with marauders

25:00
More kiting, ghosts arrive, Rain backs off
MKP has mad production and macro
MKP adds 4 more rax

26:00
Warp prism inc to the main, drops 4 zealots and warps in a bunch, all EMP'd lol
Rain pokes near MKP, takes out a LOT of ghosts for free, ouch
zealots doing damage in the main

27:00
Rain has a lot of templar, 2 collosi. Not much happening, both seem to have well saturated bases (rain 4, mkp 5)

28:00
Stream dead

!?!??!?

32:00
Ouch, MKP looks in a really bad spot
120-90 ouchhhh
Now 150-50, MKP looks pretty dead.
Warps in stuff at the 5th of MKP

33:00
Zealots at the 3rd?
190-40 supply

34:00
Moves into the 3rd, takes it out.
MKP hands off keyboard.
GG, Rain wins



Wow, awesome mate the best LR ive read in a long time

don't open quote the whole damn thing rofl
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#912
Ok MVP pls win pretty pls
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Linkirvana
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands365 Posts
August 29 2012 11:12 GMT
#913
On August 29 2012 20:10 ACrow wrote:
oh man, MKP really gave the win away here...he had a 50 to 60ish supply lead along with an upgrade lead for almost 5 minutes, he was too cautious -.-


Not to mention the 2 extra bases, he was keeping Rain on 3 while being on 5 himself.

Can't believe he let Rain back into that game
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#914
On August 29 2012 20:11 Zer atai wrote:
Why do players sign cards after they win?


They give it to the audience.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#915
On August 29 2012 20:11 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:08 sharkie wrote:
ESF players crumbling hard against the pressure.

This is the difference between pro and amateurs.

True. Still i prefere humans (ESF) to machines (KESPA).

Every time they showed players you could see how much emotionally MKP was ingame.

ESF has a machine playing today as well. It's just a somewhat broken machine.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#916
Obviusly the jetlag+kespa added nerves, forced him to attack in balls against the toss whole army, he forgott about abusing the mobility in different fronts, he coulda denyed the 5th and try to fight on a better concave instead of that choke.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#917
wow mkp lost oO not sure if hard slump by him or kespa players imba
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#918
On August 29 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


I don't think any professional player has ever had consistent success against a Protoss in a long game using mech. There are/were a few timing pushes, but not factory-based macro play.


That's because nobody has tried. They're pros because they play standard well and they play for money. Mech isn't standard right now and outside of Goody near the start, nobody else bothered to try and make it work.

It definately does, it's just very, very difficult. Then again with Bio ending the way it is recently I think mech may become standard by the fact bio being so much harder late game.
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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#919
On August 29 2012 20:10 FreudianTrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 Breach_hu wrote:
why not go for mass ghosts againts HT and archon heavy composition? rofl you deserved to lose MKP

Because that's not how the game works.


he could have done that againts that composition like ezpz, but tell me how it works ty.
Give thanks and praise!
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#920
On August 29 2012 20:12 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 The KY wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 morlakaix wrote:
im a protoss player and honestly I have no idea how MKP lost this


To combat the protoss death ball you spread and arc. MKP kept running into a position where it was impossible to do that. If you try and kite a ball of units against storm, chargelots and colossus you're just gonna fucking die.


Marineking lost because he did not harass enough in the midgame and lost 5-6 ghosts for free.
He was maxed and didn't attack.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:09 Qikz wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:08 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:07 Hazzyboy wrote:
U can't play BIO vs BW Protoss!!!!!!!!!!!


You can't play mech versus SC2 protoss.


You can, it's just hard.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Check the strat forum.


No. Chargelot Immortal beats every mech composition.


ghosts are pretty good man
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
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