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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
Wallstreet11
Profile Joined October 2011
133 Posts
August 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#3101
On August 20 2012 00:46 Nick_54 wrote:
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On August 20 2012 00:45 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:42 Ryps wrote:
All koreans are againts Nerchio wow. They shouldnt let his coach/teammate talk between games.


That is why I love to see full time korean pros get killed by a foreigner who does this as a hobby.


Im sure the top EU pros practice just as hard as the koreans.


I really doubt that. Even IF they do most don´t have a team house etc and access to top pros 24/7. It´s like Sweden being dominant in CS. We had a lot of top teams who could play each other while Brazilians etc didn´t have a pro scene really.

In all these tournaments the koreans from different teams help out each other and thats why I love to see foreigners who doesn´t even have it as a full time "job" and with worse practice conditions bear the top korean pros.
siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
August 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#3102
8 drones and some lings for 4 hellions is apperently a "huge loss" for terran
syltz
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden187 Posts
August 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#3103
I was just about to say that Nerchio is playing really well. Queue 27 drone kills.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3104
I anthropomorphize killing workers like kicking your opponent in the balls.
twitch.tv/medrea
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3105
On August 20 2012 00:51 Zane wrote:
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On August 20 2012 00:49 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds!

Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax...


You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first. It is far from 100% holdable.

Err it happens all the time

Is hatch first actually better than pool first for holding 2rax? Because you have the creep for spine and the production?

Yes, additional larva and creep make it much better, otherwise with pool first you just get bunker contained.
obesemk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway267 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3106
Hasnt nerchip been watching mvp this tournament? He almost always goes for hellion and banshe harass.....
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3107
On August 20 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 00:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 20 2012 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mvp vs. Nerchio Game 2:

Cloud Kingdom, Mvp at bottom left, Nerchio at top right

3:00- Mvp opens with his barracks at his ramp. Nerchio goes hatchery first and drone scouts. Then pool goes down.


5:00- Mvp throws down a CC at his natural. Double gas for Mvp, gets factory.


7:00- Double gas for Nerchio, 4 queens out. Third hatchery going down. Banshee being made for Mvp, late cloak. Third CC being made at third expansion.


9:00- Lair and roach warren going down for Nerchio. Decent hellion harrass, cleaned up by queens and lings. Double armory for Mvp. Mech time. Infestation pit going down.


11:00- 2 cloaked banshees in the main raping the drone line (no spore crawler/ detection). Nerchio counterharrasses with some lings to the third. Mvp at 100 food, Nerchio at 90. 2 extra CCs going down for Mvp. Thors coming.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3108
This is the MVP we know and love
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3109
Yeah that should be over.
Off-season = best season
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33534 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3110
On August 20 2012 00:53 Medrea wrote:
I anthropomorphize killing workers like kicking your opponent in the balls.


I summon the semantics experts
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3111
no mutas? sure ill add 2m cc's rofl.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3112
Nerchio "punishing" mvp's greedyness by killing 2 scvs
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3113
On August 20 2012 00:45 Saig0n wrote:
I actually enjoyed a "cheese" game. It keeps players on their toes and shows us how well thy can react to non-standard situations. Just entertaining overall and I imagine these next games will be lower risk and more traditional and i have no problems with that either!



Same here - but if you have played zerg during seasons 1-2 of ladder you still scream in triumph when a bunker rush fails

Also I love that storyline of MVP-the-crippled-cheeser. Much more interesting than MVP-the-omnipotent-macro-god.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3114
MVP floating a lot of minerals, drops two CCs. Is that a legit macro mechanic in TvZ ?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3115
To be honest, VortiX played this out better.
The Bomber boy
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 19 2012 15:53 GMT
#3116
MVGREEEEEEEEEEED

Let's see how this works out. I think it can work pretty damn well.
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
August 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#3117
come on mvp!
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
August 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#3118
hmm MVP probably watches Dragon's stream too much - mass CC style!
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
August 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#3119
Yes, very important to think about your 6th base while meching.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#3120
On August 20 2012 00:53 Shikada wrote:
MVP floating a lot of minerals, drops two CCs. Is that a legit macro mechanic in TvZ ?


When meching it's quite nice.
The Bomber boy
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