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On August 20 2012 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mvp vs. Nerchio Game 2:
Cloud Kingdom, Mvp at bottom left, Nerchio at top right
3:00- Mvp opens with his barracks at his ramp. Nerchio goes hatchery first and drone scouts. Then pool goes down.
5:00- Mvp throws down a CC at his natural. Double gas for Mvp, gets factory.
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On August 20 2012 00:46 Yagami wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:44 mememolly wrote:On August 20 2012 00:43 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 20 2012 00:41 furerkip wrote:Oh my god... Nerchio next Stephano  !?! Stephano and Nerchio has always been the kings in EU for a long long time. Its just very recently Nerchio manage to do well at Lan tournaments yeah, best foreign zergs atm What about my man Greg "IdrA" Fields?
They still have a long way to go just to be worthy to lick his feet - just look at his results from this year 
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On August 20 2012 00:45 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:44 LimitSEA wrote:On August 20 2012 00:40 Psyclon wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
I love it when cheesy terrans lose! Fuck yeah, Nerchio!!!! Lol cheese once in three series, suddenly he's a cheesy terran. GSL 2012 Season 2 says hi where he cheesed every semi-final game and then the majority of the finals.
In GSL season 2 he abused his opponent's evident inability to hold cheese. It's perfectly valid. He also won almost every type of game possible.
MVP has proven he can play this game every way possible for years now, how can people be this blind?
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Can't wait to see Nerchio's one hotkey army run around the map trying to catch Mvp drops
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On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax...
You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first. It is far from 100% holdable.
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On August 20 2012 00:48 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:45 Mackus wrote:On August 20 2012 00:44 LimitSEA wrote:On August 20 2012 00:40 Psyclon wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
I love it when cheesy terrans lose! Fuck yeah, Nerchio!!!! Lol cheese once in three series, suddenly he's a cheesy terran. GSL 2012 Season 2 says hi where he cheesed every semi-final game and then the majority of the finals. In GSL season 2 he abused his opponent's evident inability to hold cheese. It's perfectly valid. He also won almost every type of game possible. MVP has proven he can play this game every way possible for years now, how can people be this blind?
Even if they just watched this tournament where he went for long games with Mech all the time they could see it z.z
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On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first.
actually, if the rax is scouted and zerg has a spine or two, it's quite difficult for terrans to do enough dmg
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On August 20 2012 00:46 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:45 Heartland wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 Wallstreet11 wrote:On August 20 2012 00:42 Ryps wrote:
All koreans are againts Nerchio wow. They shouldnt let his coach/teammate talk between games. That is why I love to see full time korean pros get killed by a foreigner who does this as a hobby. Nerchio does this as a hobby? he goes to university doesn't he?
It's not a hobby when he puts in hours comparable to a real life job
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On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax...
Lol, i guess idra didnt get that memo
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On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first. It is far from 100% holdable.
Err it happens all the time
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On August 20 2012 00:46 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:45 Leviance wrote:On August 20 2012 00:42 SxP wrote:
Don't understand why MVP would all in. Zerg is completely invunarable against early game agression. I'm sure you understand this game better than MVP. Silly him, he doesn't know Zerg is completely invulnerable against early game aggression Still he's totally right about Mvp's bad decision, + 2-3 Spines are nigh impossible to break with Marines/SCVs.
Mvp didn't know how Nerchio would react after his Two rax.
Most zergs would have droned harder and not made the second spine after getting behind.
MVP has always been known to throw some all-ins to kill greedy opponents or just keep them honest in the rest of the series.
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On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first. It is far from 100% holdable.
It is very easy to hold with basic drone micro. But Nerchios Dronedrill that game was all but basic :d
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On August 20 2012 00:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mvp vs. Nerchio Game 2:
Cloud Kingdom, Mvp at bottom left, Nerchio at top right
3:00- Mvp opens with his barracks at his ramp. Nerchio goes hatchery first and drone scouts. Then pool goes down. 5:00- Mvp throws down a CC at his natural. Double gas for Mvp, gets factory.
7:00- Double gas for Nerchio, 4 queens out. Third hatchery going down. Banshee being made for Mvp, late cloak. Third CC being made at third expansion.
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United States33091 Posts
same build against vortix?
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On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first.
Doesn't change anything about what I said. Hatch first can hold proxy 11/11, especially if the proxy is as far as Mvp did. If proxy 11/11 auto-won against Hatch first, this opening would obviously not be standard in ZvT.
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On August 20 2012 00:49 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:48 EscPlan9 wrote:On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... You must play Terran and have never as Zerg tried to hold a proxy-2-rax allin when going hatch first. It is far from 100% holdable. Err it happens all the time
Is hatch first actually better than pool first for holding 2rax? Because you have the creep for spine and the production?
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Russian Federation1849 Posts
On August 20 2012 00:49 Makro wrote:Never forget that mentally defense by nerchio (3min 04) : + Show Spoiler +
Dat hold. Nerchio's talent shines here. That's where it all begin. The brith of the true nerd baller.
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On August 20 2012 00:49 Funkydonky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 00:47 TheDwf wrote:On August 20 2012 00:45 EscPlan9 wrote:
What a hold! Hatch-first against proxy-2-rax and holds! Hatch first can always hold scouted proxy 2 rax... Lol, i guess idra didnt get that memo
That's so fucking funny great job man
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United States33091 Posts
oh wait no, mech this game :O
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