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On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? he was actually always only a high masters (korean masters) calibur player. Had a few good showings becuase of unorthadox style but he was never a 'great' player. rest of players just caught up, makes him look even worse.
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On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill?
I have a distinct feeling from watching his games that his hype came from his very non-standard, and granted, very smart type of play. Not sure his mechanics were quite up to par. He also fell off during the Summer of 1/1/1. Never fully made it back or recovered. And yeah, he does not look very good these days, though I have only seen a handful of games.
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On August 06 2012 06:09 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:07 Niflheim wrote: The lack of knowledge about player teams by the casters is pretty interesting.. saying Thorzain is on the same team at hasu at the beginning of the cast and saying sting is teamless? how is it "interesting" ?
Well I would expect the casters to be more knowledgable on the subject .. hence I find it interesting that they aren't
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I don't think Sting takes beasty seriously. Beasty just got completely outplayed that game.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:02 ZAiNs wrote:On August 06 2012 06:00 Fubi wrote:On August 06 2012 05:51 ZAiNs wrote:On August 06 2012 05:45 Fubi wrote:On August 06 2012 05:44 Shikyo wrote:On August 06 2012 05:43 Supter wrote:On August 06 2012 05:41 Zambrah wrote:On August 06 2012 05:41 YoungTyTy wrote:On August 06 2012 05:39 flexgd wrote: nerchio complaining in zvz...this is why u have to hate the guy Dude, zvz is so imbalanced, the zerg player always loses. Yeah, and the OP Zerg player always wins, its absurd. I have the results since early 2012 : Zerg player win 100% of ZvZ. It's been since fucking months. I don't have the stats for 2011 and 2010 but afair, this was always totally imbalanced. If there's 200 ZvZs, 100 Zergs win. This means that Zerg has 50% winrate, not 100%. in 200 ZvZs, there will be 200 Zerg wins... think about it 200 Zerg wins, and 200 Zerg losses. Which means the win-rate and loss-rates are both 50% not 100%. No, 200 wins out of 200 games played is 100% win rate; same for loss rate Both win rate and loss rate are at 100%, not 50% It's 200 wins out of 400 because you need to account for the losing player as well. But you don't double count the # of games when you're calculating the win/loss rate. If you play 200 TvZ, and T wins 100 games, it would be 100 wins out of 200 games played (100/200) = 50%, not 100/400 Guys, I think we're all missing the real point of this. Why doesn't protoss ever win in zvz? Blizzard needs to get on this immediately.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Sakray wrote:I think we can call Terran the cheesy king race  ...this is news to you?
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On August 06 2012 06:11 Niflheim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:09 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Niflheim wrote: The lack of knowledge about player teams by the casters is pretty interesting.. saying Thorzain is on the same team at hasu at the beginning of the cast and saying sting is teamless? how is it "interesting" ? Well I would expect the casters to be more knowledgable on the subject .. hence I find it interesting that they aren't They do look good in pale makeup though.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:09 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? My theory besides artosis is that he's less solid than we made him out to be, when his funky styles were figured out I suppose he started to fall apart. Mostly artosis though. Damn you Artosis! Sting so cheesy. So would Nestea really be the god of the universe if Artosis didn't talk him up?
Edit: and about Sage - Seed came back after a year hiatus. Sage might follow the same tune.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:10 AgentChaos wrote: good cheese by sting, everyone seems to cheese lately Sting qualified by cheesing first like mad. Sting is a notorious cheeser and Beastyqt should have taken more precautions.
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On August 06 2012 06:12 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:11 Niflheim wrote:On August 06 2012 06:09 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Niflheim wrote: The lack of knowledge about player teams by the casters is pretty interesting.. saying Thorzain is on the same team at hasu at the beginning of the cast and saying sting is teamless? how is it "interesting" ? Well I would expect the casters to be more knowledgable on the subject .. hence I find it interesting that they aren't They do look good in pale makeup though. you love everyone who's pale
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? He never recovered from his Artosis Curse, I don't even know if he's playing anymore. Saw him streaming a couple of day ago.
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On August 06 2012 06:12 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:10 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:09 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? My theory besides artosis is that he's less solid than we made him out to be, when his funky styles were figured out I suppose he started to fall apart. Mostly artosis though. Damn you Artosis! Sting so cheesy. So would Nestea really be the god of the universe if Artosis didn't talk him up? Nestea created the curse to prevent artosis worshipping false gods.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? He never recovered from his Artosis Curse, I don't even know if he's playing anymore. He has been streaming a couple of times lately, you must've missed him. I couldn't watch, though, don't know how good he is right now.
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On August 06 2012 06:11 Pjorren wrote: I don't think Sting takes beasty seriously. Beasty just got completely outplayed that game.
It's something you need to always know how to do on that map. people really favor the expansion + marine openings, and there's 3 proxy locations to punish a terran who doesn't scout it.
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plus you can follow up with reapers if you choose to proxy by the third base.
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what is the song that plays during the TSL4 ads in progress screen?
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Proxy marauder is hurting esport.
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On August 06 2012 06:13 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:10 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:09 MCDayC wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Dodgin wrote:On August 06 2012 06:07 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2012 06:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 06 2012 06:04 MisterFred wrote: LOL, New Star Heo Seo gets no respect. "Teamless," lol. lol "He used to be on Team Jjakji..." He used to be on team jjakji and those protosses that artosis screwed over. Poor Sage... what actually happened to him? Last time I saw him he looked terrible, was it just a straight drop off in skill? He never recovered from his Artosis Curse, I don't even know if he's playing anymore. He has been streaming a couple of times lately, you must've missed him. I couldn't watch, though, don't know how good he is right now. He lost to a guy who's name isn't even translated on liquipedia and before that lost to deathangel in the preliminaries.
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On August 06 2012 06:10 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:02 ZAiNs wrote:On August 06 2012 06:00 Fubi wrote:On August 06 2012 05:51 ZAiNs wrote:On August 06 2012 05:45 Fubi wrote:On August 06 2012 05:44 Shikyo wrote:On August 06 2012 05:43 Supter wrote:On August 06 2012 05:41 Zambrah wrote:On August 06 2012 05:41 YoungTyTy wrote:On August 06 2012 05:39 flexgd wrote: nerchio complaining in zvz...this is why u have to hate the guy Dude, zvz is so imbalanced, the zerg player always loses. Yeah, and the OP Zerg player always wins, its absurd. I have the results since early 2012 : Zerg player win 100% of ZvZ. It's been since fucking months. I don't have the stats for 2011 and 2010 but afair, this was always totally imbalanced. If there's 200 ZvZs, 100 Zergs win. This means that Zerg has 50% winrate, not 100%. in 200 ZvZs, there will be 200 Zerg wins... think about it 200 Zerg wins, and 200 Zerg losses. Which means the win-rate and loss-rates are both 50% not 100%. No, 200 wins out of 200 games played is 100% win rate; same for loss rate Both win rate and loss rate are at 100%, not 50% It's 200 wins out of 400 because you need to account for the losing player as well. But you don't double count the # of games when you're calculating the win/loss rate. If you play 200 TvZ, and T wins 100 games, it would be 100 wins out of 200 games played (100/200) = 50%, not 100/400 Obviously it wouldn't be out of 400 because you're only counting Terran games not Zerg games. If you listed out all the ZvZs it would be WLWLWLWLWLWLWLWL, hence 50%.
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putting the depot next to the minerals just to get that CC that much faster.
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