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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2721
Ret what the hell was that
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2722
--- Nuked ---
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2723
Suppy up 2-1. Ret needs to start something other than 15 hatch.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2724
On August 03 2012 02:41 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:35 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:34 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:32 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
[quote]

There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.


better than pretending than one of the best rts players is dumb.

Because the best rts players can't make stupid mistakes sometimes. Okay.


there is a difference between stupid mistakes and choosing your builds. I'd agree that his all in is bad but saying that facking is bad is utterly retard.


So that's what you interpreted from my comment? Lay off the pipe bro. I think ForGG should play different, greedier openers.


you started by criticizing the cloack. And I agree that forGG should play a different style, I'd love to see him try some 3raxes timings against a fast 3rd into a bio mid game.


Why not criticize the cloak banshees? He does not need to do it so often. ForGG should use builds that take advantage of his strong mechanics.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2725
On August 03 2012 02:43 Zenbrez wrote:
The interviewer gave Sase credit for Naniwa's BM... guy should be slapped


The reference was wrong, but SaSe did say "does anyone have johnnyreccos moms phone number? I think kid got anger management issues and I didnt get laid for 2 months T.T" on Twitter.
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2726
well thegdstudio prudoction seems really cool
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2727
On August 03 2012 02:45 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:39 leo23 wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:37 sVnteen wrote:
so terrans.... why do you even whine about zerg being able to go to the lategame when the terran army just demolishes the zerg army lategame?
same with mass thor viking btw...


LOL. You rarely play this game right? JohnyRecco's creep spread was horrible, unti control horrible (please count the number of infestors he lost, he didn't have burrow), Didn't even pressure ForGG's third when forgg invested in 5 OC. Come on man be serious.


yeah the creepspread was horrible vs 13 OC'S
yeah he didn't burrow vs 13 OC's
what a big mistake lol
you seem to play the game that rarely that you don't even know what an OC can do xD

horrible control huh?
because he sent a couple of lings into the fungaled marauders?
what else was he supposed to do ?
lose his hatch instantly instead of trying to delay forGG to get a better composition?
yeah I'm sure you would have done that a lot better lol


Can you stop whining please My brain is bleeding
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2728
On August 03 2012 02:45 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:39 leo23 wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:37 sVnteen wrote:
so terrans.... why do you even whine about zerg being able to go to the lategame when the terran army just demolishes the zerg army lategame?
same with mass thor viking btw...


LOL. You rarely play this game right? JohnyRecco's creep spread was horrible, unti control horrible (please count the number of infestors he lost, he didn't have burrow), Didn't even pressure ForGG's third when forgg invested in 5 OC. Come on man be serious.


yeah the creepspread was horrible vs 13 OC'S
yeah he didn't burrow vs 13 OC's
what a big mistake lol
you seem to play the game that rarely that you don't even know what an OC can do xD

horrible control huh?
because he sent a couple of lings into the fungaled marauders?
what else was he supposed to do ?
lose his hatch instantly instead of trying to delay forGG to get a better composition?
yeah I'm sure you would have done that a lot better lol

One doesn't throw down 13 OCs in the beginning of the game lol
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 15:39:17
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2729
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#2730
On August 03 2012 02:45 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:39 leo23 wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:37 sVnteen wrote:
so terrans.... why do you even whine about zerg being able to go to the lategame when the terran army just demolishes the zerg army lategame?
same with mass thor viking btw...


LOL. You rarely play this game right? JohnyRecco's creep spread was horrible, unti control horrible (please count the number of infestors he lost, he didn't have burrow), Didn't even pressure ForGG's third when forgg invested in 5 OC. Come on man be serious.


yeah the creepspread was horrible vs 13 OC'S
yeah he didn't burrow vs 13 OC's
what a big mistake lol
you seem to play the game that rarely that you don't even know what an OC can do xD

horrible control huh?
because he sent a couple of lings into the fungaled marauders?
what else was he supposed to do ?
lose his hatch instantly instead of trying to delay forGG to get a better composition?
yeah I'm sure you would have done that a lot better lol


it was horrible before forGG pushed
He never delayed the 4th/5th
He never made infestors after his few initials before hive. you know this unit which is the core of lategame zerg.
Never scouted in the early game and didn't react properly.
Zest fanboy.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#2731
10p is supposed to beat 15h... but that was still terribly defended by Ret
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#2732
On August 03 2012 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
So forGG lives in France? Did I miss something? oO


I bet you missed that.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#2733
On August 03 2012 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
So forGG lives in France? Did I miss something? oO


A few days ago, Millenium released a video of him being welcomed upon arriving in France. Obviously you missed that!
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
August 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#2734
On August 03 2012 02:45 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:39 leo23 wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:37 sVnteen wrote:
so terrans.... why do you even whine about zerg being able to go to the lategame when the terran army just demolishes the zerg army lategame?
same with mass thor viking btw...


LOL. You rarely play this game right? JohnyRecco's creep spread was horrible, unti control horrible (please count the number of infestors he lost, he didn't have burrow), Didn't even pressure ForGG's third when forgg invested in 5 OC. Come on man be serious.


yeah the creepspread was horrible vs 13 OC'S
yeah he didn't burrow vs 13 OC's
what a big mistake lol
you seem to play the game that rarely that you don't even know what an OC can do xD

horrible control huh?
because he sent a couple of lings into the fungaled marauders?
what else was he supposed to do ?
lose his hatch instantly instead of trying to delay forGG to get a better composition?
yeah I'm sure you would have done that a lot better lol


Mhm.. You fail to notice that ForGG was trading inefficiently in about every fight, the only thing that kept him from losing was his extremely greedy opening (kept adding OC after OC, was up to 5 OCs on 2 tanks) He could afford trading inefficiently because his opening was not punished. I've watched ForGGs stream a lot and whenever he does this on korea server, the zergs just go for a big 3 base bust that hits before he even gets to this point, Recco failed to realize this and from there it went down hill. I like how you claim the Terran lategame army is more powerful when Recco could hold on for that long, winning fight after fight, against a 5 base terran with 13 OC's. Logic?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#2735
On August 03 2012 02:45 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:39 leo23 wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:37 sVnteen wrote:
so terrans.... why do you even whine about zerg being able to go to the lategame when the terran army just demolishes the zerg army lategame?
same with mass thor viking btw...


LOL. You rarely play this game right? JohnyRecco's creep spread was horrible, unti control horrible (please count the number of infestors he lost, he didn't have burrow), Didn't even pressure ForGG's third when forgg invested in 5 OC. Come on man be serious.


yeah the creepspread was horrible vs 13 OC'S
yeah he didn't burrow vs 13 OC's
what a big mistake lol
you seem to play the game that rarely that you don't even know what an OC can do xD

horrible control huh?
because he sent a couple of lings into the fungaled marauders?
what else was he supposed to do ?
lose his hatch instantly instead of trying to delay forGG to get a better composition?
yeah I'm sure you would have done that a lot better lol


You're so crazy!!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#2736
On August 03 2012 02:46 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:41 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:35 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:34 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:32 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.


better than pretending than one of the best rts players is dumb.

Because the best rts players can't make stupid mistakes sometimes. Okay.


there is a difference between stupid mistakes and choosing your builds. I'd agree that his all in is bad but saying that facking is bad is utterly retard.


So that's what you interpreted from my comment? Lay off the pipe bro. I think ForGG should play different, greedier openers.


you started by criticizing the cloack. And I agree that forGG should play a different style, I'd love to see him try some 3raxes timings against a fast 3rd into a bio mid game.


Why not criticize the cloak banshees? He does not need to do it so often. ForGG should use builds that take advantage of his strong mechanics.


in the 5th games you can't deny that's a good choice because it fakes the all in. Globally i totally agree with you that his builds aren't, imo, optimal but he used them in a good order and an intelligent way.
Zest fanboy.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
August 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#2737
dafuq how did MC come out of that so well?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#2738
On August 03 2012 02:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
10p is supposed to beat 15h... but that was still terribly defended by Ret


Suppy was watching IPL TAC.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
August 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#2739
Lol MC 384 EPM vs Titan 184 in blink stalker wars
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#2740
I don't watch or understand ZvZ...but that was awful defense by Ret right? I mean hatch first is supposed to die to 10 pool right?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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