This is what it all comes down to. The defending Grand Prix Champion vs the former champion. Liquid`TaeJa vs. ST.Squirtle in a BO7 that will be a match you won't want to miss with $3500 in prizes up for grabs!
Liquid`TaeJa, fresh off his MLG Summer Arena 1st Place finish will be looking to become the first player to win not only two Grand Prix championships, but also take home two in a row and prove his supremacy over ESV TV events and in general. Showing next level Terran play, TaeJa is the King of the ESV TV events and every performance he puts on within it is a masterpiece.
ST.Squirtle is looking to also take his second championship and show that there is a reason he took 2nd place in two major events with GSL Code S and IPL 4. Considered one of the very best PvT players out there, he will be coming in looking to prove his Code S victory over TaeJa was no fluke, and he is the superior player.
Make sure and tune in as this will be one of the highest level all out PvT's you will have seen in a long time, with both players craving the win to show they are the top dog in ESV TV events, surely it will be one for the ages!
$3500 1st place - $1500 2nd Place - $800 3rd/4th Place - $400 5th-8th - $100
If you are a professional (caster, player, etc) in the scene leave a comment in this thread or PM me with your predictions and I will add them to this!
Day[9]
Squirtle is one of my prime models for PvT play (ie I steal tons of his play). He's brilliant at balanced defefense without sacrificing his economy. Taking MVP to game 7 is no simple feat, especially considering the varied styles MVP deployed. However, Taeja's hyperaggressive but consistent TvP has impressed more than any other player in the last three months. Even though I'd expect it to be a close series, I give Taeja the edge.
Root.TT1
Squirtle 4-2 or 4-1, because he knows how to play abusive.
Painuser
I think TaeJa is going to take it because he's on a roll and I love his play. He has amazing micro/macro and just looking like a beast right now. I think they key to winning though is going to be if he can hold off some of Squirtle's strong timings, like his 2 base colossus all-ins. 4-3 Taeja.
Frodan
I currently am playing Terran this season of ladder and, like thousands who endure similar frustrations, I have hit a wall where I severely struggle to ignore the stigmas of Z/P being stronger. This wall does not apply to Liquid`Taeja who just seems to break the rules of Terran. Ever since watching his replay pack from when he was first inducted into TL, Gretorp and I agreed -- this young'in is super special. His builds aren't the most efficient or fleshed out, but I believe his positional technique and control are on the level even greater than MarineKing. Taeja is one of the future stars for the Terran race.
That said, I believe Squirtle will win. Even though Squirtle did lose to Taeja recently in the IPL qualifiers, Squirtle manhandled Taeja last season in GSL on his road to the finals. If you watch PvT from Squirtle, his builds are brilliantly dynamic and flexible. Squirtle's biggest limitations are when he reads his opponents wrong or dives too quickly at an opportunity. I think with all the games Taeja showed at MLG, Squirtle has the scouting advantage and will give him the ability to read/prepare for his opponent. When Squirtle gets locked in, Taeja won't be able to win over a BO7.
Squirtle 4 - Taeja 3.
Desrow
Squirtle will win because he has been in the finals of an ESV before and because he should have won vs MVP if he had slightly more experience.
Wolf
I think TaeJa CAN do it. In this case, Squirtle is like a boss in a video game that he has to defeat. Sometimes you beat those bosses on the first try, sometimes you don't. Squirtle plays consistently, it seems, but TaeJa is bit more unpredictable. I don't mean to say he's sink or swim, but more like hit or sink.
Winning nine out of ten of his last Korean PvTs, Squirtle is no pushover. TaeJa shines in high-pressure situations, though, and if he brings victory, he will bring it 4-2.
Pokebunny
IMO this match will really depend on if TaeJa can bring his best and not get flustered. Squirtle isn't MC, but he's a diverse player with powerful and unique timing attacks, and we can pretty much expect him to bring a variety of things to the table. However, an on-point TaeJa is really one of the scariest things out there, and if he can shut down an allin or two early on I expect him to do very well. Given TaeJa's performances online / in ESV in particular, I expect him to show his best.
Liquid'TaeJa 4-2 ST_Squirtle
Ipp
Given proper preparation, I think Squirtle would crush Taeja 4-1 or even 4-0 but how do you prepare on maps that don't have games to study? These tournaments really showcase a players ingenuity, which in the past has allowed TaeJa to consistently bring his A Game. Squirtle is good, but a confident TaeJa is next to unbeatable in any match up and there is no reason for Taeja to have any doubts.
TaeJa will take this, 4-2; losing only on Cloud Kingdom and Golden Valley.
Btw added the "Pros Pick" to the OP, going to be bugging people all the way until the match so check it out from time to time for new quotes! Day[9] is even in there!
On July 26 2012 19:17 Daigomi wrote: Fuck this match is awesome, possible TSL4 finals preview. Honestly, if I remember to I'll definitely watch this, even if it is at 3AM CAT.
Much <3, will of course be running the rebroadcasts also so if anything comes up you will be covered!
It will probably be a close series as many expect but in the end taeja will do it 4-3. Almost nobody understands the dynamics of a series like he does.
Well even though the time is hard for me I will certainly watch this, at least it is weekend and my last exam is on friday so nothing to worry about. I am predicting a 4-1 or 4-2 victory for Taeja, his TvP looks unbeatable.
Prediction: IMO this match will really depend on if TaeJa can bring his best and not get flustered. Squirtle isn't MC, but he's a diverse player with powerful and unique timing attacks, and we can pretty much expect him to bring a variety of things to the table. However, an on-point TaeJa is really one of the scariest things out there, and if he can shut down an allin or two early on I expect him to do very well. Given TaeJa's performances online / in ESV in particular, I expect him to show his best.
On July 26 2012 16:37 Talin wrote: How the hell are people still letting Squirtle beat them, I just don't get it.
Didn't you say that Hero would man handle Squirtle last season ezpz in GSL, and Hero got 3-0? Squirtle's legit, that being said, I reckon Taeja 4-3, cause he's in amazing form right now.
On July 26 2012 16:37 Talin wrote: How the hell are people still letting Squirtle beat them, I just don't get it.
Didn't you say that Hero would man handle Squirtle last season ezpz in GSL, and Hero got 3-0? Squirtle's legit, that being said, I reckon Taeja 4-3, cause he's in amazing form right now.
A lot of people never give Squirtle the props he deserves, but he's a legit threat to TaeJa and any player out there.
On July 26 2012 16:37 Talin wrote: How the hell are people still letting Squirtle beat them, I just don't get it.
Didn't you say that Hero would man handle Squirtle last season ezpz in GSL, and Hero got 3-0? Squirtle's legit, that being said, I reckon Taeja 4-3, cause he's in amazing form right now.
A lot of people never give Squirtle the props he deserves, but he's a legit threat to TaeJa and any player out there.
Legit threat? Squirtle 3-0'd Taeja last time they met in Code S
Taeja is just overhyped, Wartortle is definitely the favored one here.
On July 26 2012 16:37 Talin wrote: How the hell are people still letting Squirtle beat them, I just don't get it.
Didn't you say that Hero would man handle Squirtle last season ezpz in GSL, and Hero got 3-0? Squirtle's legit, that being said, I reckon Taeja 4-3, cause he's in amazing form right now.
A lot of people never give Squirtle the props he deserves, but he's a legit threat to TaeJa and any player out there.
Legit threat? Squirtle 3-0'd Taeja last time they met in Code S
Taeja is just overhyped, Wartortle is definitely the favored one here.
I think at this point to say either is overhyped is an overstatement. Both players are TOP TOP notch .
Given proper preparation, I think Squirtle would crush Taeja 4-1 or even 4-0 but how do you prepare on maps that don't have games to study? These tournaments really showcase a players ingenuity, which in the past has allowed TaeJa to consistently bring his A Game. Squirtle is good, but a confident TaeJa is next to unbeatable in any match up and there is no reason for Taeja to have any doubts.
TaeJa will take this, 4-2; losing only on Cloud Kingdom and Golden Valley.
On July 27 2012 14:24 Ipp wrote: Given proper preparation, I think Squirtle would crush Taeja 4-1 or even 4-0 but how do you prepare on maps that don't have games to study? These tournaments really showcase a players ingenuity, which in the past has allowed TaeJa to consistently bring his A Game. Squirtle is good, but a confident TaeJa is next to unbeatable in any match up and there is no reason for Taeja to have any doubts.
TaeJa will take this, 4-2; losing only on Cloud Kingdom and Golden Valley.
On July 27 2012 18:38 Yaki wrote: squirtle 4-2. I think that Squirtle has the best pvt in the world right now he is looking unstoppable in that matchup. only cheeses will stop him.
Taeja met Squirtle in the TSL4 qualifier - Taeja 2-0'd Squirtle, both macro games ^^
Diamond you've managed to create one of the best OPs I've seen in a loong time. Way to get me super hyped about this. More people should do the thoughts from the pros thing like that.
On July 28 2012 04:47 TheDougler wrote: Diamond you've managed to create one of the best OPs I've seen in a loong time. Way to get me super hyped about this. More people should do the thoughts from the pros thing like that.
Thank you! I blatantly ripped it from MMA sites however, don't give me too much credit ^^!
This is probably going to be way better than the GSL finals. Too bad there won't be a crowd of 50k people on a beach to watch. On a side note, MLG needs some group like ESV to help them with their map pool.
On July 28 2012 07:31 Dakure wrote: This is probably going to be way better than the GSL finals. Too bad there won't be a crowd of 50k people on a beach to watch. On a side note, MLG needs some group like ESV to help them with their map pool.
On July 26 2012 16:37 Talin wrote: How the hell are people still letting Squirtle beat them, I just don't get it.
Funny joke cause Squirtle is actually good so quit the messing around cause if you can't acknowledge that then then you sir need some sort of brain scan cause you're deficient. Though I do believe Squirtle has this 4-2
TaeJa seemed last games vs Squirtle so much better than at the GSL ro8. Maybe the online factor is bigger than I thought, and in that case, I think TaeJa should win quite handily. TaeJa 4-2
On July 28 2012 04:47 TheDougler wrote: Diamond you've managed to create one of the best OPs I've seen in a loong time. Way to get me super hyped about this. More people should do the thoughts from the pros thing like that.
Thank you! I blatantly ripped it from MMA sites however, don't give me too much credit ^^!
Being able to rip off the right kind of stuff is a useful talent to have!
Will not be able to watch this live, but very much looking forward to seeing it tomorrow; really nervous for Taeja though. Squirtle is in my eyes the best Protoss and possibly the best player in the world, would be amazing to see my favorite Terran and the true king of ESV to triumph. <3
On July 29 2012 09:25 CrazyBirdman wrote: Prepare for the most biased cast in the history of SC2 ...and I am perfectly fine with that.
TLO and Orb? Doesn't TLO play Zerg, and I've seen Orb playing random on ladder. Where is this bias?
He's probably referring to TLO's team.. ^^
Balance whine has clouded your mind.
I get it now. Oh and I got a reply from Nazgul! :D I didn't know the thing about Orb liking Taeja, but I suppose its hard to dislike Taeja after watching him in IPLTAC. Unless your a StarTale fan. Like me. Squirtle Fighting!
On July 29 2012 09:25 CrazyBirdman wrote: Prepare for the most biased cast in the history of SC2 ...and I am perfectly fine with that.
TLO and Orb? Doesn't TLO play Zerg, and I've seen Orb playing random on ladder. Where is this bias?
He's probably referring to TLO's team.. ^^
Balance whine has clouded your mind.
I get it now. Oh and I got a reply from Nazgul! :D I didn't know the thing about Orb liking Taeja, but I suppose its hard to dislike Taeja after watching him in IPLTAC. Unless your a StarTale fan. Like me. Squirtle Fighting!
TaeJa made his name in the ESV events, Orb and Diamond are the TaeJa hipsters who said he was a top 5 Terran before Taeja went godmode, they love him. Everytime Orb casts him he talks about how insanely good Taeja is. And he is right.
absolutely insane play and contol by Taeja. i think as terran players are getting better and better, protoss wont be able to cope with them in the future.
But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
Yesss 2-0, finish it off! That upgrade disadvantage had me worried.. I was screaming at him to start 3-3 and he did it instantly. I liked that 4th base timing too.
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
And marines attack with much higher rate and there is more of them. If you're trying to do the math... don't.
OK fuck it... I'm just going to say what everyone's thinking... we've seen it for a while and it's dangerous to get caught in a maelstrom of excitement to over-hype BUT... + Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
Doesn't matter, Terran has more DPS.
I don't know actually. I think the dps difference is smaller at 3-3 vs 3-0-3 than at 0-0 against 0-0-0
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
And marines attack with much higher rate and there is more of them. If you're trying to do the math... don't.
I'm not trying to do math, I'm bad at it. :p I just remembered the qxc article about that subject, that's why.
On July 29 2012 10:53 PhoenixVoid wrote: How is TaeJa not in a GSL finals with this level of play?
Taeja owns the ESV Weeklys. He doesn't do as well in GSL
Code S ro8 not too bad :D
Assuming I'm not wrong about that, anyway. Could be T_T
Well I worded that kinda badly. I think Taeja is like HerO, plays really really well online, shows flashes of incredible brilliance during LANs at times (DH, MLG), but can't seem to get the same results in the GSL booth. Then again, you have to look at the level of competition Taeja lost to the last two GSLs, Squirtle and MC are top-tier Protosses, both runner-ups their respective seasons. You typically don't see that during an ESV, sad to say.
Taeja is so good. He's not letting Squirtle get the army he wants or the attacks he wants. Taeja pretty much got to do whatever he wanted without any interference.
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
technically true, but terran will have waaaay more marauders/vikings etc (the better scaling units) than toss' better scaling units (colossus/archon). zealots scale just like marines and stalkers scale worse than marauders, and that will be the bulk of the army
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
and marines are 1 supply and have insane dps. zealots can be kited so they never even touch a bio ball. Bio ball 3 3 upgrades pretty much beat everything straight up (not including spells) Only saving grace for protoss and zerg is getting fungal off or storm (which is very very strong, dont get me wrong this isnt a balance whine or anything)
If your going to compare upgrades, compare cost (food and resources) and unit useability along with the actual damage increase
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
Not as simple as you make it. What matters is the percentage change in DPS (and since attack speed never changes, we can just use the % increase in dmg per attack).
Marines have a larger % increase than zealots (1/6 vs. 2/16) and way larger than colossi (4/30) and archons (4/35). They actually are one of the largest benificiaries from higher upgrades in the game.
Marauders, though, get screwed over (2/20) and have by far the worst % increase of any units other than stalkers.
This is part of why more marine-heavy compositions are more popular lategame amongst pros.
Also, P armor upgrades only affect 1/2 - 2/3 of unit HP. So there's that too.
On July 29 2012 10:55 Noocta wrote: But TLO.. protoss units get more from attack ( colossi get +2 to two attacks, zealots get +1 to two attacks, archons get like +3 per upgrades ) Marines get +1 and marauder get +2.
qxc made an article about that.. higher upgrades are better for protoss than terran.
Not as simple as you make it. What matters is the percentage change in DPS (and since attack speed never changes, we can just use the % increase in dmg per attack).
Marines have a larger % increase than zealots (1/6 vs. 2/16) and way larger than colossi (4/30) and archons (4/35). They actually are one of the largest benificiaries from higher upgrades in the game.
Marauders, though, get screwed over (2/20) and have by far the worst % increase of any units other than stalkers.
This is part of why more marine-heavy compositions are more popular lategame amongst pros.
Also, P armor upgrades only affect 1/2 - 2/3 of unit HP. So there's that too.
On July 29 2012 11:06 HankScorpio wrote: One further point - bio engagements always involve stim and so a + 3 attack upgrade with stim is more like a 4.5 upgrade.
Well.. you can use stim at 0-0 too. So nah.. this one don't really apply. :p
On July 29 2012 11:06 HankScorpio wrote: One further point - bio engagements always involve stim and so a + 3 attack upgrade with stim is more like a 4.5 upgrade.
Well.. you can use stim at 0-0 too. So nah.. this one don't really apply. :p
Yes, at 0-0 clearly no race has an advantage. But for every +1 attack upgrade terran gets, they essentially get +1.5 benefit due to stim.
Am I the only one thinking Taeja would have won anyways?! .. Taeja would never fight that army head to head after all.. kill small portion and fly away..
squirtle probably just had the squirts......only thing that could possibly explain that
On July 29 2012 11:16 ibo422 wrote: Am I the only one thinking Taeja would have won anyways?! .. Taeja would never fight that army head to head after all.. kill small portion and fly away..
squirtles templar would of crushed taejas army easily. Squirtles army could of easily handled an army twice the size that taeja had
On July 29 2012 11:16 ibo422 wrote: Am I the only one thinking Taeja would have won anyways?! .. Taeja would never fight that army head to head after all.. kill small portion and fly away..
Not against chargelots with high templars in prism
Don't think it mattered - the army power was pretty close and Taeja still had his barracks and mules on his CC. Squirtle would have had to guard his Nexus, and by the time it would be up, Taeja would be pumping tons more marines and marauders.
Base exchange vs Terran is not a great move, typically.
Squirtle playing everywhere today O_O Squirtle vs ret TSL4 Squirtle vs viOLet FXO IS #6 right now Squirtle vs TaeJa here. He's had a busy schedule lately
On July 29 2012 11:16 ibo422 wrote: Am I the only one thinking Taeja would have won anyways?! .. Taeja would never fight that army head to head after all.. kill small portion and fly away..
Not against chargelots with high templars in prism
At the very least, the game would have been much cooler than what we got. T_T
On July 29 2012 11:17 HankScorpio wrote: Don't think it mattered - the army power was pretty close and Taeja still had his barracks and mules on his CC. Squirtle would have had to guard his Nexus, and by the time it would be up, Taeja would be pumping tons more marines and marauders.
Base exchange vs Terran is not a great move, typically.
Yeah, good point. Squirtle wouldn't have been able to move away from his buildings when Taeja has that many medivacs and Taeja had more infrastructure left. Even if Taeja couldn't win the fight straight up it would have been a fairly close match if Squirtle rebuilt his base.
On July 29 2012 11:05 figq wrote: That opening by Taeja is pure sex.
omg i missed it.. What was the build? :O
CC-first, but build it at your third and pretend you are proxy-raxing, even send scv to behave like preparing for bunker rushing. Then, just build bunker at your natural and float the CC there. In this particular case, it was especially funny, because you could see how Squirtle was freaking out and searching for the hidden raxes around the map etc. Good fun. The end result was, the protoss was scared for a while, so he ended up expanding significantly later than the terran.
On July 29 2012 11:19 Sumahi wrote: Where is Squirtle's head in these games? I wonder if he has too many commitments or something.
Nothing wrong per se in the first two games to be honest, just that Taeja played unbelievably well in game one and rode his early'ish advantage very well in the second.
Pure Uniden moment in game three though. But professionals are human too, they can have grave slip ups.
Marines have a larger % increase than zealots (1/6 vs. 2/16) and way larger than colossi (4/30) and archons (4/35). They actually are one of the largest benificiaries from higher upgrades in the game.
doesn't mean anything in lategame, same level armor upgrade negates marine dps increase 100%. it only matters if you have an upgrade advantage over the toss' armor.
Marauders, though, get screwed over (2/20) and have by far the worst % increase of any units other than stalkers.
This is part of why more marine-heavy compositions are more popular lategame amongst pros.
Marauders get "screwed over" because every unit in the game gets +10% damage per upgrade but if 10% is 0.5 or higher it gets rounded up. immortals/ghosts/other units that have damage that can be divided by 10 are just as screwed over as marauders.
also upgrades have nothing to do with marine heavy compositions in lategame since level 3 armor upgrades negate marine scaling, and you get emp'd anyway. it's cuz marines' basic dps per supply/cost is way better than marauders', and because they can micro them so they don't die instantly (or they think they can).
On July 29 2012 11:24 MaNaVoId wrote: Man, every game squirtle keeps getting the shorter end of the build order
Taeja, rank #1 grandmaster in mindgames and planning out a series.
Really? I'd easily consider that his worst ability, that why he's never got past the Ro8 of GSL, where you actually play a prepared series instead of group stages, and his builds are good, but not absolutely amazing.
Not surprised with the results here due to how well Taeja is doing atm. If he's still playing this well come the next season of GSL I expect to see him in atleast Ro8
On July 29 2012 11:24 MaNaVoId wrote: Man, every game squirtle keeps getting the shorter end of the build order
Taeja, rank #1 grandmaster in mindgames and planning out a series.
Uhhhhh no. That's more like MVP or MMA. Taeja isn't known for the most precise or innovative builds or for meticulously prepared builds. He's got a bunch of well-rounded, flexible builds that can do well vs. most strategies.
That was way more one-sided than I expected. I thought Squirtle could at least put up a fight, but he seems lacking in PvT recently, or it is just the TaeJa factor.
On July 29 2012 11:24 MaNaVoId wrote: Man, every game squirtle keeps getting the shorter end of the build order
Taeja, rank #1 grandmaster in mindgames and planning out a series.
Uhhhhh no. That's more like MVP or MMA. Taeja isn't known for the most precise or innovative builds or for meticulously prepared builds. He's got a bunch of well-rounded, flexible builds that can do well vs. most strategies.
On July 29 2012 11:24 MaNaVoId wrote: Man, every game squirtle keeps getting the shorter end of the build order
Taeja, rank #1 grandmaster in mindgames and planning out a series.
Uhhhhh no. That's more like MVP or MMA. Taeja isn't known for the most precise or innovative builds or for meticulously prepared builds. He's got a bunch of well-rounded, flexible builds that can do well vs. most strategies.
Grandmaster ranks change all the time
What? That literally makes no sense. What does GM have to do with this? (Btw MKP and Creator have been vying for the #1 spot for a while now, it's almost always those two at the top of the rankings as far as I know so whatever argument you have is flawed...)
Heh, it's okay, I don't mind more games between Taeja and Squirtle, even if the result is known in advance. It's not all about the final result, show us the games.
edit: Oh, it's just one game? Too bad, wanted more.
On July 29 2012 11:24 MaNaVoId wrote: Man, every game squirtle keeps getting the shorter end of the build order
Taeja, rank #1 grandmaster in mindgames and planning out a series.
Uhhhhh no. That's more like MVP or MMA. Taeja isn't known for the most precise or innovative builds or for meticulously prepared builds. He's got a bunch of well-rounded, flexible builds that can do well vs. most strategies.
Grandmaster ranks change all the time
What? That literally makes no sense. What does GM have to do with this? (Btw MKP and Creator have been vying for the #1 spot for a while now, it's almost always those two at the top of the rankings as far as I know so whatever argument you have is flawed...)
What I meant to say with the first statement was that Taeja is currently the best player in mindgames etc. and that this is ofc changing all the time like ladder ranks change. I am sorry if that opinion offended you...
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
On July 29 2012 11:43 chambertin wrote: As if I would be down that this "mishap" occurred
1. I get to see yet another duel of titans' 2. The casting is fucking ace 3. I get to see more of Liquid_HerO in the background O_o
OK that last one's a bit weird I guess...
The last one is the best. The best I tell you!
Who doesn't want to see HerO in all his glory? <3
In his natural habitat... so strange... when I saw him live at GOM for Ro. 16 (he won) he just looked so nervous and anxious the whole damn time... like he always seems to whenever he's competing...
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
So a couple quick q's
Is there a place for feedback for ESV, is there a vods resource aside from the twitch recorded videos?
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
So a couple quick q's
Is there a place for feedback for ESV, is there a vods resource aside from the twitch recorded videos?
edit: woah, I missed that coupon code... T_T, it's ok
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
So a couple quick q's
Is there a place for feedback for ESV, is there a vods resource aside from the twitch recorded videos?
edit: woah, I missed that coupon code... T_T, it's ok
What's all this about replays?
If you subscribe to them they e-mail u the replays of the matches played every week.
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
So a couple quick q's
Is there a place for feedback for ESV, is there a vods resource aside from the twitch recorded videos?
edit: woah, I missed that coupon code... T_T, it's ok
What's all this about replays?
If you subscribe to them they e-mail u the replays of the matches played every week.
That is fucking amazing..... jesus... also, do they have a website/somewhere for feedback aside from Twitter?
On July 29 2012 11:43 Diamond wrote: I'm so sorry guys, I always check these and did not this one time. Won't ever happen again.
Thank you so much for all of these tourney's that you put-on/organize, it's a real treat... whatever slight setbacks occur, I'm going to go off and subscribe now because ESV is so awesome overall...
Pretty sure the ESV Korean Weekly is the tournament I have felt the best about subscribing to, for a plethora of reasons. Good production, I mostly really do enjoy the casting, the maps are exciting to see and the talent pool is just...amazing.
So a couple quick q's
Is there a place for feedback for ESV, is there a vods resource aside from the twitch recorded videos?
edit: woah, I missed that coupon code... T_T, it's ok
What's all this about replays?
If you subscribe to them they e-mail u the replays of the matches played every week.
That is fucking amazing..... jesus... also, do they have a website/somewhere for feedback aside from Twitter?
No go on the website, in development right now. My personal email is pat[at]esvtv.com if you have anything that 160 chars does not cover.
Just watched the re-broadcast. Although I aboslutely love TaeJa and want him to win, Squirtle really wasn't playing his best there. Still, they were pretty exciting games, and another great acomplishment by TaeJa!
On July 29 2012 11:40 storywriter wrote: why would you throw one of your own to the wolves... talk to him after the broadcast is over...
Yea, not cool. I get a feeling Orb's never played organized sports - you don't finger a teammate.
...well, other than maybe in women's lacrosse.
I played organized sports all through school. The one thing we always did was poke fun at each other and make jokes at each others' expense.
Lokgar is a hilarious dude, we poke fun at each other all the time.
I think you're reading into a joke a little bit too much
Fair enough, if that's the context.
Also, nice casting job today. The lost game also wasn't a huge deal, given the 4-1...and the fact that the game itself wasn't particularly spectacular.
While Terran QQs about sucking a fat one, Taeja just fucks shit up and wins tournaments. Hopefully he can add a TSL trophy to his shining record as well.
Taeja is so sick! He also seems to be like one of the guys, who put a lot of effort into the game...so be prepared zerg and protoss scum, he won´t get worse.
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Liquid`TaeJa, fresh off his MLG Summer Arena 1st Place finish will be looking to become the first player to win not only two Grand Prix championships, but also take home two in a row and prove his supremacy over ESV TV events and in general. Showing next level Terran play, TaeJa is the King of the ESV TV events and every performance he puts on within it is a masterpiece. 
ST.Squirtle is looking to also take his second championship and show that there is a reason he took 2nd place in two major events with GSL Code S and IPL 4. Considered one of the very best PvT players out there, he will be coming in looking to prove his Code S victory over TaeJa was no fluke, and he is the superior player. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fePBv.jpg)
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