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Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3981
On July 22 2012 09:11 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Poll: Best game of MLG so far?

Ryung vs Stephano Game 3 (41)
 
68%

Oz vs Stephano Game 3 (19)
 
32%

60 total votes

Your vote: Best game of MLG so far?

(Vote): Oz vs Stephano Game 3
(Vote): Ryung vs Stephano Game 3




Lol Oz vs. Stephano game 3 was just a stomp. Ryung vs. Stephano was really, really close.


x.x Oz vs Stephano game 3 was really close :/


Really? Maybe I misread things, but I basically saw Oz defend the big ling attack into a two-pronged attack that Stephano never really looked close to being able to defend.

Game 2 on Entombed was really close and awesome but game 3 was pretty onesided. So you were right.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3982
On July 22 2012 09:11 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Poll: Best game of MLG so far?

Ryung vs Stephano Game 3 (41)
 
68%

Oz vs Stephano Game 3 (19)
 
32%

60 total votes

Your vote: Best game of MLG so far?

(Vote): Oz vs Stephano Game 3
(Vote): Ryung vs Stephano Game 3




Lol Oz vs. Stephano game 3 was just a stomp. Ryung vs. Stephano was really, really close.


x.x Oz vs Stephano game 3 was really close :/


Really? Maybe I misread things, but I basically saw Oz defend the big ling attack into a two-pronged attack that Stephano never really looked close to being able to defend.

Stephano would have won if he just pushed and sacrificed a few bases of his
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3983
lol so funny :D everyone complaining atm. In the ladder everyone is complaining and even on TL.net -.-

Wtf is wrong with you? if u dont like sc2 stop playing and (or) stop watching it. And the time u waste on complaining about imbalance shit u could invest in improving ur skill to overcome that "imbalance" (if it's as imba as some ppl say which i dont agree with) -.-
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3984
On July 22 2012 09:09 CursOr wrote:
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On July 22 2012 09:07 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:04 eksert wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:00 HuKPOWA wrote:
2 base terran vs 0 base zerg and terran loses......hmmmm.....


Please show respect to zerg player. He played incredible. Any other zerg can fail to those drops, pushes, different side of attacks.
If he lets his 4 broodlords out of his control only for 1 sec he was dead. He played near perfect for 10 minutes. And if u pay attention u'll notice he put his all units into 1 control group and antiair units into 2nd group:

group 1: broods, lings, roaches, infestors, ultralisks
group 2: mutalisk, corruptors

I am high masters in eu and still cant micro them properly using 2 control groups. tanks kill festors then broods are gone.. it's real hard job


he.. played incredibly?

he was put into a very dangerous position and did the standard zerg fallback option of "try to max out on bl/infestor/corruptor" and wait to catch the vikings in 1 fungal that will end the game

it happens in 75% of late game TvZ

It's incredibly hard to attack into creep against that army, let alone defend it when it starts to push.

It's not a balance whine, what i just said are facts.

And before that... it was a 5 base Zerg vs a 2 base Terran. Yet it swung a couple times. This makes the game good, not bad.


It was never 5 base zerg versus 2 base terran, and there is no such thing as "5 base zerg" in the first place unless you want to count hatcheries with no mining or just being used for gas, or the zerg has over 100 drones.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3985
On July 22 2012 09:11 zala2023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:04 eksert wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:00 HuKPOWA wrote:
2 base terran vs 0 base zerg and terran loses......hmmmm.....


Please show respect to zerg player. He played incredible. Any other zerg can fail to those drops, pushes, different side of attacks.
If he lets his 4 broodlords out of his control only for 1 sec he was dead. He played near perfect for 10 minutes. And if u pay attention u'll notice he put his all units into 1 control group and antiair units into 2nd group:

group 1: broods, lings, roaches, infestors, ultralisks
group 2: mutalisk, corruptors

I am high masters in eu and still cant micro them properly using 2 control groups. tanks kill festors then broods are gone.. it's real hard job

zerg must be the right race for you then
there is simply no way you can even get past low masters as terran if you cant even kite with 2-3 control groups

then again there is nothing wrong with amove (so dont take any offence) :D


If you can't get past low masters, it's probably not your micro that needs work. . .
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3986
On July 22 2012 09:11 mordk wrote:
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On July 22 2012 09:10 adi_hsd wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:08 hifriend wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:06 adi_hsd wrote:
was a pretty badly played game. i fucking hate when comentators make it out to be a "crazy intense game" when it was full of stupid mistakes and bad play on either side.

hope stephano gets raped by hero next round.

lol the most epic bw/sc2 games that were ever played had big mistakes on both sides. A flash robot rolling someone with perfect play is much less interesting than back and forth games with great comebacks and clutch micro, and for that to happen there has to be mistakes made.

you're just mad because the wrong guy lost/won I guess




im a big fan of stephano actually. i just hate when commentators tell a different story from what really happened. it was a bad game for me.

Yep, it was a sloppy yet super fun game, what ruined it for me was the casting.


Actually I like MrBias in any TvZ because I can literally hear the fear in his voice when the Terran makes a comeback :D
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3987
On July 22 2012 09:11 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Poll: Best game of MLG so far?

Ryung vs Stephano Game 3 (41)
 
68%

Oz vs Stephano Game 3 (19)
 
32%

60 total votes

Your vote: Best game of MLG so far?

(Vote): Oz vs Stephano Game 3
(Vote): Ryung vs Stephano Game 3




Lol Oz vs. Stephano game 3 was just a stomp. Ryung vs. Stephano was really, really close.


x.x Oz vs Stephano game 3 was really close :/


Really? Maybe I misread things, but I basically saw Oz defend the big ling attack into a two-pronged attack that Stephano never really looked close to being able to defend.


CRAP you're right, I was thinking of the wrong game. It was actually game 2 on Entombed. Poll ruined
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3988
On July 22 2012 09:12 Lasbike wrote:
Can a prenium user do a very basic LR of Stephano vs Hero :D ?


Pm... cough.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3989
On July 22 2012 09:09 justinpal wrote:
I think badly played games can be called epic. Many TLers just cannot separate flawlessly played games with great games. A game doesn't have to be perfectly executed to be enjoyable or branded epic.


Because half of TL are gold league armchair pros. They don't even know what perfect play would look like but they just like to take shits on pro players so they can feel cool.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3990
On July 22 2012 09:09 Slike wrote:
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On July 22 2012 09:04 Redox wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:03 Jakkerr wrote:
sigh I was watching this epic game, just opening up teamliquid to check what the rest thought.
And still there is people hating on stuff, get a life some of you it's quite pathetic if you whine about everything >.>

True.
Reading on TL kills a lot of the fun recently.



That , I was so excited about watching that game and came her to see some epic reactions only to see people whining and cursing at ryung about losing this game . Others saying stephano is bad and failed so bad and other saying stephano sucks even tho he just came back out of this.

When the fuck did LR threads because this shithole? This game was fantastic! Cheer for the god damn game and stop whining!


It would be an interesting idea to donate a large amount of money to TL so they would have staff on board to land banhammers on everyone balance whining for a given tournament. Would be satisfying to see. And would make reading live report threads a lot easier.

Honestly, I love reading what other people say about the game...until I get hit by a truck of massive balance whine. Live reports should not be the place where that is featured.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3991
Alicia doing pretty good
Mmm, what to watch.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3992
On July 22 2012 09:10 aruken wrote:
Stephano vs Hero on premium only.
Good job mlg ruining esport every single time possible.


Yeah I just saw that tweet by Artosis. Seriously MLG?

Stephano vs Hero coming up on the premium stream with myself and @djWHEAT! CANT WAIT! :D
With no power comes no responsibility?
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3993
Not talking to the people that are here just to enjoy the games right now, but to the ones that whine about everything:

-It was very sloppy play, bla bla bla
WTF are you talking about? They are humans, humans make mistakes, they are never gonna play perfect. That's what makes it fun too watch. Guess what, every single Starcraft game the guy that made less MISTAKES ends up winning the game.

-Balance whining....
What's the point? I used to do it myself until I saw the light a year ago and started to just enjoy the games and not care about 'balance'. You know why? Cause I'm not the one to judge about balance since I'm not a professional player and don't have access to valid numbers confirming or denying balance/imbalance.
Why do you watch Starcraft if all you're gonna do is rage on a forum after almost every game.
I actually really wouldn't mind if someone's Starcraft account would be linked to his TL profile just to see what division all of these balance whiners actually play in.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3994
On July 22 2012 09:11 Demonaz wrote:
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On July 22 2012 09:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
Absolutely epic game. Yes it wasn't perfect from neither Ryung nor Stephano but that made for an excellent game. If every game would be as tense as that and less perfect Starcraft would be a lot bigger.


Couldn't agree more. So many on this forum seem to think a game of starcraft is only good if it follows an exact mathematical formula where everything that SHOULD happen DOES happen. They must lead really boring lives.

People just hate it when things dont go as they expect it. Maybe it makes them feel stupid, not sure.
Off-season = best season
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
July 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3995
On July 22 2012 09:09 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:07 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:04 mav451 wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:02 Antithesis wrote:
Lol, I just caught the final minute and it already felt intense, now that I'm reading the replies I guess I must have missed a pretty lolworthy comeback.


Stephano was never really in danger imo. The casters hyped it up more than it really was, which to be fair is there job.


Was never in danger? You're joking right? Not only was he in danger, he should not have won that game. Ryung seriously outplayed him hard for like 80% of that game. Killed off all the mining hatcheries while getting up two mining bases of his own. I have no clue what happened(Not gonna dive into the cesspool of IMBA posts) but Stephano should not have won that.


Highlighted the important part.

I Clearly meant I have no clue what happened in the engagements not in the game as a whole. I said that because I didn't want to balance whine about BL/Corruptor/Infester. It sounds better to say I have no clue what happened in the engagement as opposed to saying Zerg imba as fuck.....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
July 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#3996
On July 22 2012 09:11 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:10 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Poll: Best game of MLG so far?

Ryung vs Stephano Game 3 (41)
 
68%

Oz vs Stephano Game 3 (19)
 
32%

60 total votes

Your vote: Best game of MLG so far?

(Vote): Oz vs Stephano Game 3
(Vote): Ryung vs Stephano Game 3




Lol Oz vs. Stephano game 3 was just a stomp. Ryung vs. Stephano was really, really close.


x.x Oz vs Stephano game 3 was really close :/


Really? Maybe I misread things, but I basically saw Oz defend the big ling attack into a two-pronged attack that Stephano never really looked close to being able to defend.

They must mean game 2 or something because Oz destroyed stephano in game 3
Maruprime.
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
July 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#3997
On July 22 2012 09:12 Lasbike wrote:
Can a prenium user do a very basic LR of Stephano vs Hero :D ?


No everyone is too busy giving their silver league opinion on balance.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#3998
On July 22 2012 09:12 darkest44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:09 justinpal wrote:
I think badly played games can be called epic. Many TLers just cannot separate flawlessly played games with great games. A game doesn't have to be perfectly executed to be enjoyable or branded epic.


Because half of TL are gold league armchair pros. They don't even know what perfect play would look like but they just like to take shits on pro players so they can feel cool.

On the flipside, we also have people saying it's the best ZvT in history, which screams "I don't watch the GSL" like nothing else.
zala2023
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
July 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#3999
On July 22 2012 09:05 eksert wrote:
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On July 22 2012 09:04 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 22 2012 09:02 yeint wrote:
I'm a massive Terran fanboy, and I wanted Ryung to win, but anyone crying balance is an idiot. That was an amazing game and what everyone should watch SC2 for.

Grats to Stephano.

Up 2 bases, and 40 supply, and still can't beat the BL, corrupter, infestor. Feel bad for Terran in the late game.



it's not terran late game.. wow u are really becoming ignorant.. do u know how hard to micro festor/BLs as zerg? show some respect.

you mean for the first time ever as zerg you have to kite with broodlord and move infesors back after casting fungal?
must be hard eh, after getting used to amoving for so long
relax bro we got this
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#4000
On July 22 2012 09:12 mav451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:10 aruken wrote:
Stephano vs Hero on premium only.
Good job mlg ruining esport every single time possible.


Yeah I just saw that tweet by Artosis. Seriously MLG?

Show nested quote +
Stephano vs Hero coming up on the premium stream with myself and @djWHEAT! CANT WAIT! :D


Stop whining. If you don't like it open your wallet.
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