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On July 22 2012 08:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 22 2012 08:30 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Why are people saying mech is bad? Ryung played that build in a sloppy manner. He didn't even macro properly.
I hate to admit this, but TheBest has shown me the most impressive mech play post-patch. He never gave up on the style and really refined it. the problem with make TvZ is that you give up lots of mobility for just the ability to kill drones quicker. You're not stronger in fights, you still cannont push midgame, hell you cannot drop. The only other advantage is that it's easier to turtle into sky terran. So it could be good on Metropolis ie. Marines are simply too good. Falsest thing I've ever read in this thread. That's the entire reason you go mech in the first place.
You cannot fight Z t2 with mech since he just rush hive because roaches are too good. So you've a weaker army than the Z in a straight up fight before ultra lategame.
Just watch symbol crushing every mech player either by dropping 200/200 roaches or rushing hive to see that you're wrong.
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On July 22 2012 08:35 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:32 Paperplane wrote:
This is such a brilliant way to fill downtime. Agreed. They need to practice it a bit for next time, so the operator (JP) and analyzer don't end up trying to do the same thing. Probably best if the operator is the only one pausing/unpausing for instance.
yeah the operator should pause/unpause and all time related stuff while the analyst does everything else. Kinda how it works in sports. You always hear the announcers go "if you stop it right here" and then they draw and stuff.
Its their first time using it so I don't expect it to be completely fluid. Really enjoying it, hope to see more of it.
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YES! Stephano finish off Ryung so I can watch my all time favorite SC2 MU!
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Stephano do it please! i want a rematch vs Hero so badly :o (rather than ryung - hero as well)
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On July 22 2012 08:34 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:32 Gosi wrote:On July 22 2012 08:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 22 2012 08:30 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Why are people saying mech is bad? Ryung played that build in a sloppy manner. He didn't even macro properly.
I hate to admit this, but TheBest has shown me the most impressive mech play post-patch. He never gave up on the style and really refined it. the problem with make TvZ is that you give up lots of mobility for just the ability to kill drones quicker. You're not stronger in fights, you still cannont push midgame, hell you cannot drop. The only other advantage is that it's easier to turtle into sky terran. So it could be good on Metropolis ie. Marines are simply too good. Siege Tanks are simply too bad. :& They're ok, if they were that bad everyone'd be playing pure bio. You simply cannot mass them since they're way too many ways to deal with it. They complement marines quite well and are good vs ultra/ling/infest.
The only thing Zerg has that handles tanks outright is brood lords, which are the hardest of hard counters, even moreso than immortals. Were it not for the broodling-based attack, high tank counts at all stages in the game would be not only possible but probably common. SC2 tanks may suck compared to their BW counterparts (I'd love to see a big damage buff btw) but in high numbers they're still impressive.
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On July 22 2012 08:36 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:33 Kazeshini wrote:if I may be allowed to start a poll, Because I am interested how many ppl here watched the stream from the beginning up until now. =) Poll: Do yo have watched the MLG stream from the start until now?No, I joined the show later (36) 53% Yes, I´am here from the start until now. (32) 47% 68 total votes Your vote: Do yo have watched the MLG stream from the start until now? (Vote): Yes, I´am here from the start until now.
(Vote): No, I joined the show later
Out of curiosty because it is extremly exhausting staying the whole show in front of your monitor. Just fap through the pain man.
need kpop or chair commercials for that
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Question - is 2 and 2 in gas better than 3 and 1 because none of the workers are ever "waiting"?
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On July 22 2012 08:35 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:33 muzzy wrote:On July 22 2012 08:30 ProxyKnoxy wrote:On July 22 2012 08:28 FairForever wrote:On July 22 2012 08:28 ThePowerHour wrote:
Seems like the players can see each others' monitors... I'm sure they've moved them far enough, admins can't be that dumb... You can't just look at someone else's monitor while in a game. For one you can't watch another screen and do stuff on yours, and also they're on webcam. I'm hoping that it just looks this way from our view, but those monitors do look to be at an angle that would allow you to peek at your opponent's screen. *If* they were visible, and a big *if* there because I doubt the admins would be that foolish, it only takes one quick glance to reveal a ton of game breaking image. It's not like you need to sit there watching the opponent play. If you get caught doing that by one of the admins or one of the thousands of people watching the stream (and you will be), your career is in a lot of trouble. If it is possible, nobody's gonna do it anyway.
Again, this is a silly argument because I don't think it's possible...
But what if you just shifted your eyes over for 2 secs and see, say, your opponent has void rays. That could be huge, and how could anyone prove that you were spying on your opponent?
Anyway, because of how easy it would be to exploit, I'm pretty sure that they cannot see each others screens.
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lol everything Mr. Bitter says Apollo just shoots it down.
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On July 22 2012 08:34 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Any updates on Hero vs viOlet?
Hero 2-0 Violet according to liquipedia
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On July 22 2012 08:38 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:34 sAsImre wrote:On July 22 2012 08:32 Gosi wrote:On July 22 2012 08:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 22 2012 08:30 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Why are people saying mech is bad? Ryung played that build in a sloppy manner. He didn't even macro properly.
I hate to admit this, but TheBest has shown me the most impressive mech play post-patch. He never gave up on the style and really refined it. the problem with make TvZ is that you give up lots of mobility for just the ability to kill drones quicker. You're not stronger in fights, you still cannont push midgame, hell you cannot drop. The only other advantage is that it's easier to turtle into sky terran. So it could be good on Metropolis ie. Marines are simply too good. Siege Tanks are simply too bad. :& They're ok, if they were that bad everyone'd be playing pure bio. You simply cannot mass them since they're way too many ways to deal with it. They complement marines quite well and are good vs ultra/ling/infest. The only thing Zerg has that handles tanks outright is brood lords, which are the hardest of hard counters, even moreso than immortals. Were it not for the broodling-based attack, high tank counts at all stages in the game would be not only possible but probably common. SC2 tanks may suck compared to their BW counterparts (I'd love to see a big damage buff btw) but in high numbers they're still impressive.
drop + roach destroy lower tank counts in the midgame. Like really hard that's the reason the opening is thor/hellion/banshee.
so you've to be in lategame to have a high tank count, when gglords are out.
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Stephano supply blocked very often
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wow I thought he was going ravens for a minute :p
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On July 22 2012 08:37 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 08:35 yeint wrote:On July 22 2012 08:32 Paperplane wrote:
This is such a brilliant way to fill downtime. Agreed. They need to practice it a bit for next time, so the operator (JP) and analyzer don't end up trying to do the same thing. Probably best if the operator is the only one pausing/unpausing for instance. yeah the operator should pause/unpause and all time related stuff while the analyst does everything else. Kinda how it works in sports. You always hear the announcers go "if you stop it right here" and then they draw and stuff. Its their first time using it so I don't expect it to be completely fluid. Really enjoying it, hope to see more of it.
I agree it's been fantastic. I do think they need to keep the analysis-screen people limited to those who know the game really well though. Either players or artosis/day9/apollo. Bitter and Wheat just look lost up there.
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whats the next match on main stream? taeja - losira?
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On July 22 2012 08:40 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
whats the next match on main stream? taeja - losira?
Alicia/Oz. Taeja/Losira after that.
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Every time a player misclicks raven energy I cry
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Stephano going mutas?!? whoa
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EPT
