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jnd
Czech Republic915 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:28 4ZakeN87 wrote: That guy is like the mother of haters. When Naniwa played in the round of 16 GSL he had like 50 post spreading shit over Naniwa. I'm kinda new here but why TL tolerates these? Everywhere I read how TL has strict moderation but it doesn't show here. | ||
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Australia54784 Posts
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United States3704 Posts
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Latham
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Austria16289 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:29 Toadvine wrote: I watch Stephano and try to see amazing play, but the only feeling I end up with is that every other Zerg is an idiot with zero understanding of how the matchup works. See, Stephano understands that Protoss has to make Immortals in anticipation of a roach max, so he just switches into ling/infestor for the midgame. Protoss normally needs Storm for that, but it's impossible to get Templar tech up in time for the pre-Hive timing after that kind of opening, so it basically forces the Protoss into lategame without aggreesion, which is a death sentence on Ohana. Stephano didn't really do anything special, he just abused Protoss limitations in an extremely effective way. It actually makes me angry that basically every other Zerg would just mass roaches in this position and get rolled over by the immortal timing. Wow, its like everyone is an idiot except you and Stephano! Well done! | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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Juggernaut477
United States379 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:30 jnd wrote: I'm kinda new here but why TL tolerates these? Everywhere I read how TL has strict moderation but it doesn't show here. It seems like the mods have given up on LR threads. | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:29 Toadvine wrote: I watch Stephano and try to see amazing play, but the only feeling I end up with is that every other Zerg is an idiot with zero understanding of how the matchup works. that's rly interesting m8... | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:24 Gheizen64 wrote: PvZ worst MU at the moment, so passive and awkward, desperately need rework or a toss revolution. Stargate play need some change imho, toss so one-dimensional right now. It's not Toss being one-dimensional that is the problem in this matchup anymore. I agree this used to be the case but the issue I see now is that it is Zerg that is making it one dimensional because they have robust, catch-all builds that give them all the economy they need, with the addition of a lot of offensive capability. Watch any long BoX that Protoss play, you see almost a different gameplan every game, Protoss have to mix it up to survive. MC used Stargate openings, warp prism drops, DT openings and 3 base passive robo styles iirc, and that was only a Bo7! Stephano was able to do pretty much the same opening every game, with subtle variations bar the mutalisk game. Playstyles like Hero/JYPs warp prism centric play, which imo are some of the greatest styles aesthetically to watch just aren't strong enough to make a staple of your play because Zerg can straight up kill you if you're trying to be cute. Infestors are too good of a catch-all option, strong against all but timing attacks before they pop out. They deal with air, hell can even root pesky DTs in place. Even the Queen buff meant zealot/stalker harassment is a lot less viable, making gateway openers conversely weaker. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
On July 16 2012 09:31 aRyuujin wrote: if alicia is smart, void rays wil rape- called it :D | ||
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jnd
Czech Republic915 Posts
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