• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:17
CET 11:17
KST 19:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2358 users

[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 3 Day 1 - Page 180

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 178 179 180 181 182 Next
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 15:55:29
July 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#3581
On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote:
By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors?


You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then.

If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything...


...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage.

(and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...)

(well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered).
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
July 11 2012 15:58 GMT
#3582
Am I the only one having trouble to load VODs from m.gomtv.net?
Even the VODs working yesterday will only show a picture.
BW hwaiting!
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
July 11 2012 16:00 GMT
#3583
On July 12 2012 00:00 Slangen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:48 foxj wrote:
Could it be true that first time in GSL history

+ Show Spoiler +
NO TERRANS IN R04 ?

MEHH

Byun got a saying about that.


also nestea
Try again, fail better.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#3584
On July 11 2012 03:48 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Seed/MC gogogo


ezpz
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 16:08:52
July 11 2012 16:08 GMT
#3585
And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong?
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 11 2012 16:12 GMT
#3586
ohheeemggeeee...

protoss so sexy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 11 2012 16:17 GMT
#3587
On July 12 2012 01:08 megid wrote:
And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong?

MVP is called cheese/alliner because of 4 games in 1 year, what did you expect from LR thread concerning MC?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
July 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#3588
On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote:
NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals.


And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 11 2012 16:30 GMT
#3589
--- Nuked ---
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
July 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#3590
Very close pair of series !

Grats to Seed with the upset !

SKMC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sneep
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
July 11 2012 17:27 GMT
#3591
On July 11 2012 22:46 hfxRos wrote:
Byun is pretty much guaranteed to win the whole thing now. Can't have a GSL without a Terran champion.

thanks for spoiling gsl
but there is hope left.. there is one protoss who can win GSLs and he is still in it.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
July 11 2012 17:27 GMT
#3592
On July 12 2012 01:30 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 01:22 Digamma wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote:
NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals.


And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely.

I like how NaNiwa beating DRG is the biggest problem you have with that sentence...



You really think NaNiwa is going to beat DRG?..
sneep
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 11 2012 17:29 GMT
#3593
why is byun so hyped...
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 11 2012 17:44 GMT
#3594
On July 12 2012 02:29 aintz wrote:
why is byun so hyped...


Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
July 11 2012 17:46 GMT
#3595
Please Nestea vs MC finals :D

2/3 of the original gods of SC2 duking it out in the finals would be sick cool.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#3596
I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...


Nickelback?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
July 11 2012 17:58 GMT
#3597
On July 12 2012 02:51 Grampz wrote:
I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...


Nickelback?

What do you mean Nickleback? -__-;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 11 2012 18:04 GMT
#3598
On July 11 2012 22:15 Gesarjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 22:11 kafkaesque wrote:
"MC is highly overrated and his risky play won't let him be successfull for long."
EG.Incontrol, 2010


He was right, what is your problem? Haven't you seen MC play in 2010-early 2011?

Or do you expect incontrol to predict a player's change of style?

He was wrong, since MC has always been risky and yet continues to succeed. He had a slump but he recovered nicely and has continued to be an extremely dangerous player who can never be counted out. He's also still the only protoss to win anything.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
July 11 2012 18:15 GMT
#3599
On July 12 2012 02:44 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 02:29 aintz wrote:
why is byun so hyped...


Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.


Nestea hasn't been looking dominate either he has been making it through his groups but really Byun has been looking great against Terran and Protoss. Hasn't played a Zerg this whole time in GSL. Now the thing is though can Byun ZvT up to par with his TvT or TvP...A lot of people are pointing at the GSTL that he lost to two zergs named Coca & Moon. Which both of those players aren't on Nestea standards.

Nestea though seems very comfortable against the Terran he has played against. I do think Byun does have a shot his mechanics against TvT and TvP is awesome. If he doesn't win then Nestea will be playing against Seed. I do think Seed will make the finals if Nestea does beat Byun.


Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#3600
On July 12 2012 00:51 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:
On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote:
By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors?


You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then.

If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything...


...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage.

(and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...)

(well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered).

Yes because changing the game is much better than making players figure things out. The biggest thing the Infestor buff did was make Zergs use Infestors. The DPS of Fungal isn't the most dangerous thing, it's the part that makes things unable to move. The DPS buff helps most at taking out Sentries super fast. Hell back then Zergs hardly made Brood Lords or even did hardcore Mutalisk builds which would wreck Colossus Void Ray. I'm pretty sure you're the one who has no clue what they're talking about.
Prev 1 178 179 180 181 182 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 205
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32780
Rain 2280
Horang2 1384
Sea 1266
GuemChi 723
PianO 645
firebathero 404
BeSt 311
Mong 227
Leta 199
[ Show more ]
Soma 193
Mini 137
EffOrt 104
Rush 82
Snow 76
ggaemo 66
ZerO 60
Barracks 58
Sharp 56
Light 46
sorry 41
Mind 39
Shine 28
NotJumperer 27
yabsab 25
JYJ 24
Movie 16
Shinee 13
SilentControl 11
scan(afreeca) 10
Noble 8
HiyA 6
Bale 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe64
League of Legends
JimRising 510
C9.Mang0416
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1880
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor51
Other Games
summit1g6835
singsing435
XaKoH 243
crisheroes66
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV68
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 37
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
6h 43m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
13h 43m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.