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MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 15:55:29
July 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#3581
On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote:
By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors?


You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then.

If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything...


...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage.

(and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...)

(well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered).
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
July 11 2012 15:58 GMT
#3582
Am I the only one having trouble to load VODs from m.gomtv.net?
Even the VODs working yesterday will only show a picture.
BW hwaiting!
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
July 11 2012 16:00 GMT
#3583
On July 12 2012 00:00 Slangen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:48 foxj wrote:
Could it be true that first time in GSL history

+ Show Spoiler +
NO TERRANS IN R04 ?

MEHH

Byun got a saying about that.


also nestea
Try again, fail better.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#3584
On July 11 2012 03:48 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Seed/MC gogogo


ezpz
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 16:08:52
July 11 2012 16:08 GMT
#3585
And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong?
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 11 2012 16:12 GMT
#3586
ohheeemggeeee...

protoss so sexy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 11 2012 16:17 GMT
#3587
On July 12 2012 01:08 megid wrote:
And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong?

MVP is called cheese/alliner because of 4 games in 1 year, what did you expect from LR thread concerning MC?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
July 11 2012 16:22 GMT
#3588
On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote:
NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals.


And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 11 2012 16:30 GMT
#3589
--- Nuked ---
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
July 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#3590
Very close pair of series !

Grats to Seed with the upset !

SKMC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sneep
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
July 11 2012 17:27 GMT
#3591
On July 11 2012 22:46 hfxRos wrote:
Byun is pretty much guaranteed to win the whole thing now. Can't have a GSL without a Terran champion.

thanks for spoiling gsl
but there is hope left.. there is one protoss who can win GSLs and he is still in it.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
July 11 2012 17:27 GMT
#3592
On July 12 2012 01:30 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 01:22 Digamma wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote:
NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals.


And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely.

I like how NaNiwa beating DRG is the biggest problem you have with that sentence...



You really think NaNiwa is going to beat DRG?..
sneep
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 11 2012 17:29 GMT
#3593
why is byun so hyped...
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 11 2012 17:44 GMT
#3594
On July 12 2012 02:29 aintz wrote:
why is byun so hyped...


Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
July 11 2012 17:46 GMT
#3595
Please Nestea vs MC finals :D

2/3 of the original gods of SC2 duking it out in the finals would be sick cool.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#3596
I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...


Nickelback?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
July 11 2012 17:58 GMT
#3597
On July 12 2012 02:51 Grampz wrote:
I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...


Nickelback?

What do you mean Nickleback? -__-;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 11 2012 18:04 GMT
#3598
On July 11 2012 22:15 Gesarjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 22:11 kafkaesque wrote:
"MC is highly overrated and his risky play won't let him be successfull for long."
EG.Incontrol, 2010


He was right, what is your problem? Haven't you seen MC play in 2010-early 2011?

Or do you expect incontrol to predict a player's change of style?

He was wrong, since MC has always been risky and yet continues to succeed. He had a slump but he recovered nicely and has continued to be an extremely dangerous player who can never be counted out. He's also still the only protoss to win anything.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
July 11 2012 18:15 GMT
#3599
On July 12 2012 02:44 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 02:29 aintz wrote:
why is byun so hyped...


Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.


Nestea hasn't been looking dominate either he has been making it through his groups but really Byun has been looking great against Terran and Protoss. Hasn't played a Zerg this whole time in GSL. Now the thing is though can Byun ZvT up to par with his TvT or TvP...A lot of people are pointing at the GSTL that he lost to two zergs named Coca & Moon. Which both of those players aren't on Nestea standards.

Nestea though seems very comfortable against the Terran he has played against. I do think Byun does have a shot his mechanics against TvT and TvP is awesome. If he doesn't win then Nestea will be playing against Seed. I do think Seed will make the finals if Nestea does beat Byun.


Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#3600
On July 12 2012 00:51 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:
On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote:
By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors?


You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then.

If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything...


...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage.

(and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...)

(well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered).

Yes because changing the game is much better than making players figure things out. The biggest thing the Infestor buff did was make Zergs use Infestors. The DPS of Fungal isn't the most dangerous thing, it's the part that makes things unable to move. The DPS buff helps most at taking out Sentries super fast. Hell back then Zergs hardly made Brood Lords or even did hardcore Mutalisk builds which would wreck Colossus Void Ray. I'm pretty sure you're the one who has no clue what they're talking about.
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