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On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote: By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors? You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then. If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything...
...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage.
(and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...)
(well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered).
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Am I the only one having trouble to load VODs from m.gomtv.net? Even the VODs working yesterday will only show a picture.
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On July 12 2012 00:00 Slangen wrote:Byun got a saying about that.
also nestea
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On July 11 2012 03:48 chipmonklord17 wrote: Seed/MC gogogo
ezpz
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And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong?
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ohheeemggeeee...
protoss so sexy
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On July 12 2012 01:08 megid wrote: And ppl keep saying crap about MC and all ins, how many times will he have to prove that is wrong? MVP is called cheese/alliner because of 4 games in 1 year, what did you expect from LR thread concerning MC?
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On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote: NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals.
And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely.
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Very close pair of series !
Grats to Seed with the upset !
SKMC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On July 11 2012 22:46 hfxRos wrote: Byun is pretty much guaranteed to win the whole thing now. Can't have a GSL without a Terran champion. thanks for spoiling gsl but there is hope left.. there is one protoss who can win GSLs and he is still in it.
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On July 12 2012 01:30 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 01:22 Digamma wrote:On July 11 2012 22:38 Havik_ wrote: NesTea will smash Byun and get to the Ro4, then Seed will take out Nestea. Naniwa will 3-0 DRG, 3-0 MC, and then 4-0 Seed in a PvP finals. And the martians will come to the earth riding unicorns. Face it, naniwa beating DRG is REALLY unlikely. I like how NaNiwa beating DRG is the biggest problem you have with that sentence...
You really think NaNiwa is going to beat DRG?..
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On July 12 2012 02:29 aintz wrote: why is byun so hyped...
Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.
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Please Nestea vs MC finals :D
2/3 of the original gods of SC2 duking it out in the finals would be sick cool.
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I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...
Nickelback?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On July 12 2012 02:51 Grampz wrote: I just watched the vods and...all i have to say...
Nickelback? What do you mean Nickleback? -__-;;
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On July 11 2012 22:15 Gesarjack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 22:11 kafkaesque wrote: "MC is highly overrated and his risky play won't let him be successfull for long." EG.Incontrol, 2010 He was right, what is your problem? Haven't you seen MC play in 2010-early 2011? Or do you expect incontrol to predict a player's change of style? He was wrong, since MC has always been risky and yet continues to succeed. He had a slump but he recovered nicely and has continued to be an extremely dangerous player who can never be counted out. He's also still the only protoss to win anything.
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On July 12 2012 02:44 SupLilSon wrote:Because he is an amazing player? He's shown time and time again that he can employ a wide range of strategies, all with great effect. Abusive rushes to 40 minute macro games, this guy can hang with the best. He get's overshadowed by MKP and until recently has had relatively little recognition despite being one of the best Korean Terrans.
Nestea hasn't been looking dominate either he has been making it through his groups but really Byun has been looking great against Terran and Protoss. Hasn't played a Zerg this whole time in GSL. Now the thing is though can Byun ZvT up to par with his TvT or TvP...A lot of people are pointing at the GSTL that he lost to two zergs named Coca & Moon. Which both of those players aren't on Nestea standards.
Nestea though seems very comfortable against the Terran he has played against. I do think Byun does have a shot his mechanics against TvT and TvP is awesome. If he doesn't win then Nestea will be playing against Seed. I do think Seed will make the finals if Nestea does beat Byun.
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On July 12 2012 00:51 MilesTeg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 00:32 ZAiNs wrote:On July 11 2012 23:09 Murkury wrote:On July 11 2012 22:51 Toadvine wrote: By the way, wasn't it hilarious how Artosis talked about the imbalance of 2 base VR/Colossus during game 2 between Symbol and Seed, claimed that the Infestor buff addressed that, and then Symbol beat that exact same build without using Infestors? You might sound smart if it weren't for the voidray nerf, drastic metagame and map changes that occurred since then. If we teleported back in time to when Cruncher beat Idra in TSL3, top Zergs would shit on Colossus Void Ray. Zergs hardly used Infestors or Brood Lords back then, the Fungal 'buff' wasn't even that big, and it's not like they buffed Infested Terrans too or anything... ...so? It's called a metagame change. You can't deny that the infestor change was one of the better move by Blizzard. Zerg was really lacking that late game long range, splash damage unit that allows it to capitalise on an advantage in the midgame. Yes people can deal with it better now, even without the infestor, but only because they've gotten better at killing the Protoss before that stage. (and I'm pretty sure a 260% DPS increase is a huge buff...) (well, re-reading your message it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue, I wonder why I even answered). Yes because changing the game is much better than making players figure things out. The biggest thing the Infestor buff did was make Zergs use Infestors. The DPS of Fungal isn't the most dangerous thing, it's the part that makes things unable to move. The DPS buff helps most at taking out Sentries super fast. Hell back then Zergs hardly made Brood Lords or even did hardcore Mutalisk builds which would wreck Colossus Void Ray. I'm pretty sure you're the one who has no clue what they're talking about.
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