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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#1781
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance

People need to stop thinking SC2 is the SC2 in 2010,early 2011. Terms like "volatile and less figured" are just not good excuses for Bo3s anymore. While I agree, Bo3s are better, Bo1s are not an issue anymore. It's better from a scheduling perspective, and as today's games have shown, still show good games.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1782
On July 16 2012 23:36 Thobrik wrote:
Atleast the "results" tab in the OP says he won! yay!

Opterown dropping the ball lol
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1783
On July 16 2012 23:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance


I think the games have been pretty high quality, and the better play has won.

Byun went for an all-in and failed, It's his fault.

Right, the Bo1's can still be high quality and the better players can still win in that one game, but that doesn't change the fact that the games can go either way, and it also makes the random map choice really retarded.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1784
On July 16 2012 23:34 Arceus wrote:
weird, yet entertaining TvP. Almost-hardcountered-4gate fended off a full-swing 111.


It was nexus first into gate/robo...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1785
On July 16 2012 23:36 Thobrik wrote:
Atleast the "results" tab in the OP says he won! yay!


Opterown with some wishful thinking =p


On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance


There's been literally 0 problem with bo1 today at all.

Actually finding it more enjoyable than the GSL groups tbh.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1786
On July 16 2012 23:37 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:33 minilance wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:32 g3rd0 wrote:
I hope San will beat Symbol. I don't think it will happen, but it would make him the manliest player to ever play this game after Reach.


agreed

One needs to be physical manly as well though


Don't worry. With time, he will be manly ;D
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1787
On July 16 2012 23:37 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:33 minilance wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:32 g3rd0 wrote:
I hope San will beat Symbol. I don't think it will happen, but it would make him the manliest player to ever play this game after Reach.


agreed

One needs to be physical manly as well though

San punches his screen and the completed cannon blocking his nexus cancels itself for 100% return.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1788
i like the bo1s

if you have the balls to cheese, you do it and win
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#1789
final

P7 San <Entombed> Z11 Symbol
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
July 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#1790
On July 16 2012 23:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance

People need to stop thinking SC2 is the SC2 in 2010,early 2011. Terms like "volatile and less figured" are just not good excuses for Bo3s anymore. While I agree, Bo3s are better, Bo1s are not an issue anymore. It's better from a scheduling perspective, and as today's games have shown, still show good games.

Yeah, these games have been pretty good today. Not sure what the issue is with this format...
I think BO3/5 is good too, but it's not like these players weren't able to prepare or something. They had tons of time, and I feel that the quality of the games has been excellent.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#1791
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance

SC2 has been out for over 2 years now. The game is definitely starting to become figured out. Hell, HOTS isn't that far away and its all back to status zero.

Bo1 is perfectly fine imo.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
July 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#1792
On July 16 2012 23:37 Grummler wrote:
Where can i find more information about the actual format of the OSL? I only found that there will be two tournaments, one for kespa and one for non kespa palyers. Will they merge eventually?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1

Liquidpedia is your friend.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
July 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#1793
On July 16 2012 23:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance

People need to stop thinking SC2 is the SC2 in 2010,early 2011. Terms like "volatile and less figured" are just not good excuses for Bo3s anymore. While I agree, Bo3s are better, Bo1s are not an issue anymore. It's better from a scheduling perspective, and as today's games have shown, still show good games.

It's still more volatile and less figured out RELATIVE to BW. Also, today's games might show good results, but that doesn't change the fact that random cheese and randomness of map choices can POTENTIALLY play a much much bigger (and undesire) role
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
July 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#1794
On July 16 2012 23:38 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:34 Arceus wrote:
weird, yet entertaining TvP. Almost-hardcountered-4gate fended off a full-swing 111.


It was nexus first into gate/robo...

Pretty sure it was actually a Parting expand (Gate, Gas, Nexus, Pylon, Cyber, Zealot)
In the Emperor we trust
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#1795
On July 16 2012 23:38 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:36 Thobrik wrote:
Atleast the "results" tab in the OP says he won! yay!


Opterown with some wishful thinking =p


Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance


There's been literally 0 problem with bo1 today at all.

Actually finding it more enjoyable than the GSL groups tbh.


yes some one sided bo3 are silly and it just takes way too long. Especially when you don't like a match up (PvZ ie) you just skip some matchs. On a bo1 you'd consider watching the whole thing.
Zest fanboy.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#1796
On July 16 2012 23:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:36 Thobrik wrote:
Atleast the "results" tab in the OP says he won! yay!

Opterown dropping the ball lol

oops =x
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#1797
On July 16 2012 23:38 Juliette wrote:
final

P7 San <Entombed> Z11 Symbol

forge first, pool first.

both plant nexus/hatch at the same time, though zerg takes his third first. Protoss has a little gate/cannon wall right at his main ramp too.

OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#1798
On July 16 2012 23:38 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:35 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance


I think the games have been pretty high quality, and the better play has won.

Byun went for an all-in and failed, It's his fault.

Right, the Bo1's can still be high quality and the better players can still win in that one game, but that doesn't change the fact that the games can go either way, and it also makes the random map choice really retarded.


Yes, and an argument could be made Bo5 is even better and Bo7, Bo9... You can go on and on. But unless they only do 1 group per day, Bo3 just takes too long unless they are all cheese games. You can also argue dual tournament format could be unfair depending on who plays whom first and full round robin is better.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#1799
On July 16 2012 23:39 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:37 pdd wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance

People need to stop thinking SC2 is the SC2 in 2010,early 2011. Terms like "volatile and less figured" are just not good excuses for Bo3s anymore. While I agree, Bo3s are better, Bo1s are not an issue anymore. It's better from a scheduling perspective, and as today's games have shown, still show good games.

It's still more volatile and less figured out RELATIVE to BW. Also, today's games might show good results, but that doesn't change the fact that random cheese and randomness of map choices can POTENTIALLY play a much much bigger (and undesire) role


BW was ALWAYS Bo1. Prior to the play-offs. BW wasn't always figured out. This how OSL does it. The games have been great, maybe the players we wanted didn't quite get through, but that's part of the excitement and drama in Bo1. It puts on a show, and honestly I've found today's matches to be better than the majority of the matches I've seen in the GSL.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#1800
Mvp holding a trophy while everyone else is just doing an expression posing with their hand is =X
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