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[TSL4] Qualifier 12 - KR #4 - Page 22

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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#421
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.
Flashspec
Profile Joined January 2012
44 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#422
Just wondering, are these games casted live online or replays?
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#423
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:06:16
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#424
On July 06 2012 08:05 Flashspec wrote:
Just wondering, are these games casted live online or replays?

replays from the same day I believe like hours before
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
July 05 2012 23:06 GMT
#425
Hey guys , I think we can agree Artosis and Apollo are great casters and great analysts .
Tho they can call out with accuracy , they can also be wrong , from time to time .;
I am just glad to watch em both , and watch so nice games

PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:07:23
July 05 2012 23:06 GMT
#426
i know it's all in good fun, but isn't it funny to see the TSL make light fun of the EGMC? rivals even in casting :D

OT: GOGO TAEJA! LIQUID FIGHTING
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#427
On July 06 2012 08:05 Devise wrote:
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt


He forgot seeded players?
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#428
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


Who are you and where is your data to support your claims?
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#429
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.

There we have ToD's statement about Artosis. Not willing to go on the hunt for more, feel that a vigilant "quest for the best" is kind of pointless.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#430
Oh look, it's another LR thread where people are arguing about completely arbitrary player/caster rankings.

Can we just say "Apollo is really good" and leave it at that?
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#431
I remember the game Wheat is talking about. It was 1 zealot and 1 stalker and MC just walked past the bunker. It was on antiga. 15 sec later LastShadow called GG
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#432
On July 06 2012 08:07 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:05 Devise wrote:
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt


He forgot seeded players?


He probably meant players that got in by qualifying.
I've got moves like Jagger
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#433
wow.. taeja so good.. obs killing like a boss
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#434
OMG this obs denying ... taeja is bringing his A GAME
MrSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden93 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#435
Taeja is so good.... I pity the fool that has to play against him
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#436
On July 06 2012 08:07 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


Who are you and where is your data to support your claims?

It was more of a rhetorical question pointing out that any statements about Artosis being the best caster would've been outdated. Obviously the man is busy doing other things lately, becoming a father and all, so who can blame him for being less involved with the game.

But I should know better than to belittle tastosis on the TL forums, too many fanboys get riled up.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:12:40
July 05 2012 23:12 GMT
#437
was awesome when 3 persons out of 4 was- were waiting for the observer to show up
lol
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 05 2012 23:12 GMT
#438
Observer snipes were the pro'est thing i've seen all month. crazy.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
lykkekage
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark107 Posts
July 05 2012 23:13 GMT
#439
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


To name some: ClouD, IdrA, Incontrol, ToD (I know Idra and Incontrol are buddies with Artosis but stillI)

I dont see what data they need for their opinion (I could give you the same question btw lol) ... They are pro gamers, so they know the most about the game, so they will obviously know what Artosis is talking about and know that its true.

Im not saying that you are wrong in your statement that Apollo is the best. He might be. There is really no way to "measure" that. Im just saying, that saying that he is leagues above Artosis is just plain wrong.

So when you judge that Apollo is leagues above, yes that is definitely favoritism.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 05 2012 23:14 GMT
#440
Taeja's ballin out of control.
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