• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:57
CEST 10:57
KST 17:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting8[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET1Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition32
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada herO Talks: Poor Performance at EWC and more... Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO
Tourneys
$1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) WardiTV Mondays RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET BW General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game [Interview] Grrrr... 2024 Pros React To: BarrackS + FlaSh Coaching vs SnOw
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Current Meta Relatively freeroll strategies Siegecraft - a new perspective
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1396 users

[TSL4] Qualifier 12 - KR #4 - Page 22

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
533 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#421
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.
Flashspec
Profile Joined January 2012
44 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#422
Just wondering, are these games casted live online or replays?
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#423
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:06:16
July 05 2012 23:05 GMT
#424
On July 06 2012 08:05 Flashspec wrote:
Just wondering, are these games casted live online or replays?

replays from the same day I believe like hours before
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
July 05 2012 23:06 GMT
#425
Hey guys , I think we can agree Artosis and Apollo are great casters and great analysts .
Tho they can call out with accuracy , they can also be wrong , from time to time .;
I am just glad to watch em both , and watch so nice games

PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:07:23
July 05 2012 23:06 GMT
#426
i know it's all in good fun, but isn't it funny to see the TSL make light fun of the EGMC? rivals even in casting :D

OT: GOGO TAEJA! LIQUID FIGHTING
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#427
On July 06 2012 08:05 Devise wrote:
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt


He forgot seeded players?
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#428
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


Who are you and where is your data to support your claims?
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#429
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.

There we have ToD's statement about Artosis. Not willing to go on the hunt for more, feel that a vigilant "quest for the best" is kind of pointless.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#430
Oh look, it's another LR thread where people are arguing about completely arbitrary player/caster rankings.

Can we just say "Apollo is really good" and leave it at that?
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#431
I remember the game Wheat is talking about. It was 1 zealot and 1 stalker and MC just walked past the bunker. It was on antiga. 15 sec later LastShadow called GG
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 05 2012 23:09 GMT
#432
On July 06 2012 08:07 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:05 Devise wrote:
Why did Apollo just say that if Teaja wins Liquid will be the only team with 2 people in the TSL, Quantic has Naniwa and SaSe Empire has Kas and Beastyqt


He forgot seeded players?


He probably meant players that got in by qualifying.
I've got moves like Jagger
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#433
wow.. taeja so good.. obs killing like a boss
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#434
OMG this obs denying ... taeja is bringing his A GAME
MrSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden93 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#435
Taeja is so good.... I pity the fool that has to play against him
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#436
On July 06 2012 08:07 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


Who are you and where is your data to support your claims?

It was more of a rhetorical question pointing out that any statements about Artosis being the best caster would've been outdated. Obviously the man is busy doing other things lately, becoming a father and all, so who can blame him for being less involved with the game.

But I should know better than to belittle tastosis on the TL forums, too many fanboys get riled up.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 23:12:40
July 05 2012 23:12 GMT
#437
was awesome when 3 persons out of 4 was- were waiting for the observer to show up
lol
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 05 2012 23:12 GMT
#438
Observer snipes were the pro'est thing i've seen all month. crazy.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
lykkekage
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark107 Posts
July 05 2012 23:13 GMT
#439
On July 06 2012 08:05 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 08:01 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:57 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:55 lykkekage wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:52 Bagi wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:51 Kamate wrote:
On July 06 2012 07:48 Bashion wrote:
Holy shit, Apollo.

You scare me.


I think he sees in the FUTURE!

I'm reminded of "4rax, he's going mech" from MLG.

Not even Artosis can touch Apollo in game analysis.


While he is good, lets not overhype him too too much

Artosis is at least equally as good as Apollo


No, I really think Apollo has surpassed all other casters in the last year or so.

If anyone is overhyped its Tastosis.


Several pro players have commented on how Artosis analysis is the best. And when it comes down to it, they are the best to judge that So in terms of in game analysis, I dont think you can ever make the argument that Artosis cant touch Apollo.

Who are these several pro players and what is the data they base their evaluation upon?

I'm not saying Artosis has been the most knowledgeable caster in the past, but as of late Apollo has far better calls and a better grasp on the recent metagame. Anyone watching these guys cast regularly can agree with that, and its nothing to do with favoritism.


To name some: ClouD, IdrA, Incontrol, ToD (I know Idra and Incontrol are buddies with Artosis but stillI)

I dont see what data they need for their opinion (I could give you the same question btw lol) ... They are pro gamers, so they know the most about the game, so they will obviously know what Artosis is talking about and know that its true.

Im not saying that you are wrong in your statement that Apollo is the best. He might be. There is really no way to "measure" that. Im just saying, that saying that he is leagues above Artosis is just plain wrong.

So when you judge that Apollo is leagues above, yes that is definitely favoritism.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
July 05 2012 23:14 GMT
#440
Taeja's ballin out of control.
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 141
SortOf 138
StarCraft: Brood War
Killer 617
Larva 566
actioN 471
JulyZerg 79
sorry 77
Rain 70
ToSsGirL 68
soO 28
Sacsri 25
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
[ Show more ]
ivOry 9
Dota 2
XcaliburYe897
League of Legends
JimRising 765
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K312
oskar29
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor185
Other Games
summit1g13417
B2W.Neo325
C9.Mang0297
Mew2King154
KnowMe114
ViBE39
Trikslyr19
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL6251
Other Games
gamesdonequick1365
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH183
• LUISG 23
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1770
• HappyZerGling139
Other Games
• WagamamaTV670
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
1h 3m
BSL Team A[vengers]
5h 3m
Bonyth vs Paralyze
StRyKeR vs Ample
Safe House 2
8h 3m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
Safe House 2
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Online Event
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.