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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 05 2012 11:58 GMT
#2221
On July 05 2012 20:55 Havik_ wrote:
Naniwa has beaten DRG before. Last time I remember them playing was MLG Providence where Naniwa beat him like 4-1 in an extended series IIRC. Naniwa has a chance if he does some big 2 base all ins.


LOLLLLLLL

That was like what 8 months ago?
DRG was sick FYI.

DRG is now eating all the top toss for breakfast(MC,Oz,Sase[i deemed Sase PvZ better than Nani],Alicia,Parting)
Play your best
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:58:36
July 05 2012 11:58 GMT
#2222
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 05 2012 11:58 GMT
#2223
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in


Let's just say maybe 2 rax? While Zerg counterpart of early pressure like 6-10pool almost never kills a Terran if he is decent enough to wall the front, 2 rax, especially 11 11 can pressure Zerg and potentially kill on the spot. If you call 2 rax an all-in, then we just have different philosophy.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 05 2012 11:58 GMT
#2224
On July 05 2012 20:57 aznball123 wrote:
Okay ro4 drg vs symbol!


They're on opposite sides of the bracket...
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
July 05 2012 11:58 GMT
#2225
On July 05 2012 20:54 Hall0wed wrote:
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On July 05 2012 20:52 soverRR wrote:
NesTea overhyped as suspected. Just like Symbol. DRG still strongest zerg.


Huh? Even Artosis has been saying for months and months that DRG is the best zerg, its just during casts he likes to keep up with his trend of hyping Nestea just to add something extra to the cast.


Not really, they've been hyping Symbol as being equal to DRG, and NesTea as being comaparable.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 12:00:00
July 05 2012 11:59 GMT
#2226
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

probably pounding his chest like king kong

during the month of July
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 11:59 GMT
#2227
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 05 2012 11:59 GMT
#2228
Given how SuperNova was just swept aside by NesTea, I hope Ryung wins this, maybe he'll be more competitive. Hurts to say as I really like SuperNoVa

bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
July 05 2012 11:59 GMT
#2229
NaNiwa is dead =/
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2230
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
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On July 05 2012 20:56 zezamer wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 CosmoK wrote:
Socke beat DRG recently, why should't Naniwa be able to do so?


naniwa's pvz is bad
bo5
it's in korea

Naniwa has so bad luck with ro8

hey it's GSL

upsets happen all the time


Once the single elim starts upsets are not very common.
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2231
On July 05 2012 20:53 Bam Lee wrote:
DRG is in the round of 4. Lets see who he will face(if you didnt get it, he will crush naniwa which means he will advance to round of 4 easily)


Wow thanks for the explanation in brackets. Couldn't have figured it out on our own.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2232
i duno but parting/squirtle can advise naniwa on how to beat drg so anything is possible
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2233
Guys just got home. Can somebody fill me in on predictions for Ryung-Supernova?
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2234
On July 05 2012 20:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:57 aznball123 wrote:
Okay ro4 drg vs symbol!


He's on the other side I believe

Oh, my fault. Better yet grand finals then!!
Mmm, what to watch.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
July 05 2012 12:00 GMT
#2235
Yes there are jergs in ST teamhouse , just not top notch jergs like Nestea/DRG
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
July 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#2236
Nestea vs Naniwa final = plane tickets will be sold out
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#2237
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.

I use it with success in diamond. I'm happy to know it will still be viable in masters. It's just too ineffective at pro level?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#2238
On July 05 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:55 Derez wrote:
DRG is the absolute favorite going into the ro8. His tournament to lose for sure now.


MC? He's beaten DRG 3-0 before. DRG's probably got a slightly better chance than him, but I wouldn't call it "his.. to lose".

Doubt it to be honest. We haven't seen much GSL PvZ from MC, and his cutesy timing style seems much more effective in 2-3 day tourneys. His style doesn't work very well in the GSL anymore.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#2239
On July 05 2012 21:01 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.

I use it with success in diamond. I'm happy to know it will still be viable in masters. It's just too ineffective at pro level?

MKP goes it. I wouldn't say its ineffective.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#2240
On July 05 2012 21:01 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:55 Derez wrote:
DRG is the absolute favorite going into the ro8. His tournament to lose for sure now.


MC? He's beaten DRG 3-0 before. DRG's probably got a slightly better chance than him, but I wouldn't call it "his.. to lose".

Doubt it to be honest. We haven't seen much GSL PvZ from MC, and his cutesy timing style seems much more effective in 2-3 day tourneys. His style doesn't work very well in the GSL anymore.


Cutesy timing style is pretty much all Protoss has left against Zergs of the calibre of Symbol and DRG. It's not so much a style as it is "I want to win".
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