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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2181
Well, Ro8 was nice, NaNiWa... Atleast you have a definite spot in Code S
The Bomber boy
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2182
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.


My point is that typically you are unlikely to get ahead (the purpose of a pressure build) with anything other than an 11/11 at Code S level (the level where balance matters), because the Zerg will just slaughter it and it doesn't matter how many units you have "forced" when they just raped the shit out of your Marines. So most 2raxes at the competitive level are pretty all-in, no?

I haven't seen a truly successful 12/14 or 13/14 in ages.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2183
DRG vs NaNi, that's good. Hope DRG wins. :D
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2184
Man, almost too much sc2 going on, WCS, GSL, tsl4 qualifier and now HSCIV is about to start. TOo much to watch it all xD
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:54:11
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2185
On July 05 2012 20:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Naniwa beating DRG in a bo5.... el o el


Ro8 are Bo5?? Awesome if so =D
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2186
RIP Naniwa
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
July 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#2187
Poor Naniwa... PvZ is his weakest and he gets to play the best damn Zerg in the world.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2188
Against everyone left i would have seen chances for Naniwa, but DRG?
Worst outcome, but expected for Nani.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2189
On July 05 2012 20:53 Zambrah wrote:
God dammit, Naniwa has the worst Ro8 luck EVER.

Incidentally, I'm calling Ryung to take second place.

Calling it.


Ye, that was my prediction as well. Gonna be exciting!
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2190
On July 05 2012 20:53 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Naniwa beating DRG in a bo5.... el o el


Ro8 are Bo5?? Awesome if so =D


Yeah, Ro4 is also Bo5 and finals are Bo7
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2191
On July 05 2012 20:53 Narrow123 wrote:
time to start practising PvZ Nani :/

PvZ vs Parting, good practice
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2192
On July 05 2012 20:52 soverRR wrote:
NesTea overhyped as suspected. Just like Symbol. DRG still strongest zerg.


Huh? Even Artosis has been saying for months and months that DRG is the best zerg, its just during casts he likes to keep up with his trend of hyping Nestea just to add something extra to the cast.
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Fleuria
Profile Joined April 2011
England466 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2193
Time for the stat of the person that loses the winners match to lose in the final game to continue, happened in every single group apart from the first in ro32, this must live on
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2194
congrats DRG you advanced to ro4!
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2195
On July 05 2012 20:53 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Poor Naniwa... PvZ is his weakest and he gets to play the best damn Zerg in the world.


He's lucked out for long enough dodging every Zerg.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:55:28
July 05 2012 11:54 GMT
#2196
On July 05 2012 20:53 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.


My point is that typically you are unlikely to get ahead (the purpose of a pressure build) with anything other than an 11/11 at Code S level (the level where balance matters), because the Zerg will just slaughter it and it doesn't matter how many units you have "forced" when they just raped the shit out of your Marines. So most 2raxes at the competitive level are pretty all-in, no?

I haven't seen a truly successful 12/14 or 13/14 in ages.

lol,play korean ladder as zerg now. Meta game is 2 raxes again. And just so you know, Korean win rate is 51-49% for terran now. So yeah, 12/14 is good. Forcing out lings means weaker zerg mid game and lesser queens as queens cost 150 minerals. That's 3 drones.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 11:55 GMT
#2197
On July 05 2012 20:53 Sp00ly wrote:
Damnit Naniwa. First gets beat by MVP, now will get beat by DRG. New curse maybe?


At least, that brings way more credit to his "Ro8 performance", in place of losing to SuperNoVa for example.
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adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
July 05 2012 11:55 GMT
#2198
Anyone else got a problem with the stream? it getting pixeled\blured up when the camera moves
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
CosmoK
Profile Joined July 2011
339 Posts
July 05 2012 11:55 GMT
#2199
Socke beat DRG recently, why should't Naniwa be able to do so?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 11:55 GMT
#2200
Naniwa has beaten DRG before. Last time I remember them playing was MLG Providence where Naniwa beat him like 4-1 in an extended series IIRC. Naniwa has a chance if he does some big 2 base all ins.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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