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On July 05 2012 21:04 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? It's probably some guy who's annoyed at Artosis' hyping/Nestea jokes^ It annoyed me a while back too, but it's much more casual now and they know he's not the best player going around so w/e.
Except the part where Artosis explains that Nestea will come out of the sky crashing into the studio, killing half the audience and will tear up the group :p
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On July 05 2012 21:05 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:59 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem are you curious right now? Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa. ...that was for a PvP, why would he ask Zergs for that?
Soooo Ro16 was only pvp? Man, I didn't know terrans changed their names.
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On July 05 2012 21:05 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 05 2012 21:03 usethis2 wrote:On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem are you curious right now? I wouldn't even count Curious as code S quality. Curious is a strange case. He's amazing in code A and mediocre in Code S A less steady YugiOh ?
imagine Yugioh 1st round of Code A extended to all of Code A
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On July 05 2012 21:01 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Derez wrote:
DRG is the absolute favorite going into the ro8. His tournament to lose for sure now. MC? He's beaten DRG 3-0 before. DRG's probably got a slightly better chance than him, but I wouldn't call it "his.. to lose". Doubt it to be honest. We haven't seen much GSL PvZ from MC, and his cutesy timing style seems much more effective in 2-3 day tourneys. His style doesn't work very well in the GSL anymore.
It's funny to call MC's PvZ as 'cutesy timing' - based given that he's probably the best macro PvZer. Also funny to criticize the PvZ he never played in GSL in 2012 excepting first season where he took out Nestea.
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On July 05 2012 21:02 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:01 Derez wrote:On July 05 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Derez wrote:
DRG is the absolute favorite going into the ro8. His tournament to lose for sure now. MC? He's beaten DRG 3-0 before. DRG's probably got a slightly better chance than him, but I wouldn't call it "his.. to lose". Doubt it to be honest. We haven't seen much GSL PvZ from MC, and his cutesy timing style seems much more effective in 2-3 day tourneys. His style doesn't work very well in the GSL anymore. Cutesy timing style is pretty much all Protoss has left against Zergs of the calibre of Symbol and DRG. It's not so much a style as it is "I want to win".
I don't disagree, I just don't think it will work against an opponent that gets to prepare extensively against every possibility and has DRG's skill. Preparation doesn't benefit both sides equally.
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On July 05 2012 21:03 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? Its called the "anti-popular" syndrome. People who wants to be original would say someone who is strong is actually weak. Just like what happened to Jeremy lin.
Well look at all 3 games he played against DRG. All about catching your opponent opponents off guard.
Now, I know that's part of the skillset you need to have, but for all 3 games? It was pretty clear that Nestea thought he wouldn't beat DRG in a macro game.
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On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?
It's just that he's not top3 player in the world anymore, he's just a very good player now. He suffers the comparison with his old himself.
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On July 05 2012 21:05 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:05 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 05 2012 20:59 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem are you curious right now? Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa. ...that was for a PvP, why would he ask Zergs for that? Soooo Ro16 was only pvp? Man, I didn't know terrans changed their names.
...obviously he prepared the most for Genius as that was who he'd be playing first, and Nani said himself he wasn't very worried about Keen as he just beat him at dreamhack. Since there was no way he could play Byun twice, then really all he needed to do was practice PvP.
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I think this TvT incoming will be awesome, better then people expect.
Think Ryung will take it though.
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animal tastes great
nuff said.
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Unit of the day is probably baneling
DRG vs Ryung Game 3, banelings negated those all-in SCVs meat shields and saved DRG
DRG vs Nestea Game 2, baneling nest was not made in time to prevent mass lings
DRG vs Nestea Game 3, no baneling means upgraded lings own roaches
It is nothing new that baneling is important, but baneling or lack of it shines today.
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On July 05 2012 21:06 usethis2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:03 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? Its called the "anti-popular" syndrome. People who wants to be original would say someone who is strong is actually weak. Just like what happened to Jeremy lin. Well look at all 3 games he played against DRG. All about catching your opponent opponents off guard. Now, I know that's part of the skillset you need to have, but for all 3 games? It was pretty clear that Nestea thought he wouldn't beat DRG in a macro game.
wtf? First game was a roach timing. Its STANDARD in Z v Z. Second game I will give you that. Third game was a anti muta build which nestea predicted wrong. -_- I really wonder how do people hate without understanding what they hate.
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On July 05 2012 21:03 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 20:58 soverRR wrote:On July 05 2012 20:54 Hall0wed wrote:On July 05 2012 20:52 soverRR wrote:NesTea overhyped as suspected. Just like Symbol. DRG still strongest zerg.  Huh? Even Artosis has been saying for months and months that DRG is the best zerg, its just during casts he likes to keep up with his trend of hyping Nestea just to add something extra to the cast. Not really, they've been hyping Symbol as being equal to DRG, and NesTea as being comaparable. Yes really. That is them hyping people up during a cast. If you ever hear Artosis outside of casting the GSL then he gives it to you straight, no extra hype attached. Outside of casting Artosis has been sticking with DRG for a good amount of time now.
That might very well be! Havn't had time for much non-gsl sc2 lately. But it still means he's overhyped, despite it not being sincere hype 
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On July 05 2012 21:07 kaetor wrote:
I think this TvT incoming will be awesome, better then people expect.
Think Ryung will take it though.
Half as good as the one from yesterday & will still be a good TvT.
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On July 05 2012 21:05 Onlinejaguar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:03 HeroMystic wrote:On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? I think they're talking about the whole "Creator of the Universe" stuff that Artosis jokes about. But........ Nestea is the creator of the universe!!!!
This infidels, they should be happy nestea does not smite them for there blasphemy. Talking as if he is less then the 1 true god.
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On July 05 2012 21:03 HeroMystic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? I think they're talking about the whole "Creator of the Universe" stuff that Artosis jokes about. EDIT: I'll give the advantage to Ryung. He's pretty confident in TvT and his gameplay is up there with MVP's.
lol thats just a funny, running joke. People like to mess up anything good :/
but on Ryung vs SuperNova, I hope SN wins so it is an easier match for Nestea
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Come on Ryung.
You better win so we can at least see a good match between you and Nestea.
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On July 05 2012 21:06 usethis2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:03 ImNightmare wrote:On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped? Its called the "anti-popular" syndrome. People who wants to be original would say someone who is strong is actually weak. Just like what happened to Jeremy lin. Well look at all 3 games he played against DRG. All about catching your opponent opponents off guard. Now, I know that's part of the skillset you need to have, but for all 3 games? It was pretty clear that Nestea thought he wouldn't beat DRG in a macro game.
The third game wasn't. In fact he got caught off guard himself. Had he known what comp DRG was going he'd of probably been significantly ahead.
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On July 05 2012 21:06 priestnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 21:01 Derez wrote:On July 05 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote:On July 05 2012 20:55 Derez wrote:
DRG is the absolute favorite going into the ro8. His tournament to lose for sure now. MC? He's beaten DRG 3-0 before. DRG's probably got a slightly better chance than him, but I wouldn't call it "his.. to lose". Doubt it to be honest. We haven't seen much GSL PvZ from MC, and his cutesy timing style seems much more effective in 2-3 day tourneys. His style doesn't work very well in the GSL anymore. It's funny to call MC's PvZ as 'cutesy timing' - based given that he's probably the best macro PvZer. Also funny to criticize the PvZ he never played in GSL in 2012 excepting first season where he took out Nestea.
mc is known for his timing style in pvz. a fool couldnt even deny this
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awww, naniwa gets drg? he has 1 week to make a revolution in his PvZ
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