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HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
July 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#2241
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#2242
On July 05 2012 20:59 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa.


Lol no? Most of the Startale Protoss had matches to prepare for. Parting is out of Code S and likely has a PvP next in Code A. Squirtle didn't think he had to prepare PvP as much as the other matchups, Sase at foreign events, etc.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2243
On July 05 2012 21:01 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.

I use it with success in diamond. I'm happy to know it will still be viable in masters. It's just too ineffective at pro level?


Ive seen 12/14 into 2 CC's by MKP. My Go to build lately (especially now that zergs are used to scratching their balls for the first 8 minutes of the game and expecting 1 rax CC all the time).
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2244
On July 05 2012 20:58 soverRR wrote:
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On July 05 2012 20:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:52 soverRR wrote:
NesTea overhyped as suspected. Just like Symbol. DRG still strongest zerg.


Huh? Even Artosis has been saying for months and months that DRG is the best zerg, its just during casts he likes to keep up with his trend of hyping Nestea just to add something extra to the cast.


Not really, they've been hyping Symbol as being equal to DRG, and NesTea as being comaparable.


Yes really. That is them hyping people up during a cast. If you ever hear Artosis outside of casting the GSL then he gives it to you straight, no extra hype attached. Outside of casting Artosis has been sticking with DRG for a good amount of time now.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2245
GUYS

Predictions for Ryung-Supernova?!!?

^_^
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 12:05:05
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2246
On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?


I think they're talking about the whole "Creator of the Universe" stuff that Artosis jokes about.

EDIT: I'll give the advantage to Ryung. He's pretty confident in TvT and his gameplay is up there with MVP's.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2247
On July 05 2012 21:02 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:59 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa.


Lol no? Most of the Startale Protoss had matches to prepare for. Parting is out of Code S and likely has a PvP next in Code A. Squirtle didn't think he had to prepare PvP as much as the other matchups, Sase at foreign events, etc.

He said only Parting practiced with him, which is quite the difference to "nobody else wanted to practice with me". Don't read to much into the statements
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2248
On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?

Its called the "anti-popular" syndrome. People who wants to be original would say someone who is strong is actually weak. Just like what happened to Jeremy lin.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
July 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#2249
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

I wouldn't even count Curious as code S quality.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#2250
On July 05 2012 21:03 Walitgon wrote:
GUYS

Predictions for Ryung-Supernova?!!?

^_^


Ryung should win IMO.
His best match-up has always been TvT.
Play your best
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#2251
On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?


It's probably some guy who's annoyed at Artosis' hyping/Nestea jokes^ It annoyed me a while back too, but it's much more casual now and they know he's not the best player going around so w/e.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#2252
On July 05 2012 21:03 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

I wouldn't even count Curious as code S quality.

Curious is a strange case. He's amazing in code A and mediocre in Code S
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#2253
On July 05 2012 21:03 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 21:01 nojok wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:47 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:45 pyro19 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:41 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:34 HeroMystic wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Terran has the advantage at the Endgame, but I don't believe that was within Blizzard's intentions, and personally I find it pretty BS that Terran has to resort to splitting the map and turtling to get BC/Ghost/Raven.


Couldn't agree more.
0-10min Terran time with pressure/all-in
10-50min Zerg time with whole map with creep, fast tech switch BL/Ultra/Infestor
50+min Finally Terran time again...wtf


What is this Pressure time you talk about? 4-5 Queens completely shut down ant kind of Pressure. Terran throws at Zerg and an All in is an All in

So there will be 4-5 queens with 2 rax? What's your build. teach me please.


I'm pretty sure most 2raxes aren't just "pressure" builds, 11/11 is pretty all-in.

12/14, 13/14 are all in? Wow.. I didn't know that. You must be a pro.


I... didn't say that. I said that 11/11 is pretty all-in.

Do people still do 12/14 and 13/14 pressure builds? I thought that nowadays Zergs can hold off anything other than an 11/11 with ease.

And that's the purpose of a pressure build, forcing you to build units instead of drones, not win straight out which is 11/11. 12/14 actually does it pretty well. Small tip from a masters zerg.

I use it with success in diamond. I'm happy to know it will still be viable in masters. It's just too ineffective at pro level?


Ive seen 12/14 into 2 CC's by MKP. My Go to build lately (especially now that zergs are used to scratching their balls for the first 8 minutes of the game and expecting 1 rax CC all the time).

Why would you scratch your balls? I twist my nipples and do a roach bane all in. Feels so good with that baneling explosion.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#2254
On July 05 2012 21:03 Walitgon wrote:
GUYS

Predictions for Ryung-Supernova?!!?

^_^


Ryung definitely. But i'm not overconfident though.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2255
On July 05 2012 20:59 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

Naniwa did say only parting was willing to practise with him. Koreans just don't like naniwa.

...that was for a PvP, why would he ask Zergs for that?
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2256
On July 05 2012 21:03 HeroMystic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 21:02 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
I don't understand people saying Nestea is overhyped. He lost to DRG who has been the consensus best zerg in the world for awhile (although symbol is coming). Also Nestea has been in 10 straight at code S and is a 3 time champion. How is he overhyped?


I think they're talking about the whole "Creator of the Universe" stuff that Artosis jokes about.


But........ Nestea is the creator of the universe!!!!
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2257
At least Naniwa will be forced to practice his PvZ finally. Hopefully he'll improve enough to stop auto-losing against every zerg that knows how to use hotkeys at LAN events.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2258
DRG vs MC Semi-finals, god I hope this happens.
Long live the King of Wings
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2259
On July 05 2012 21:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 21:03 usethis2 wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:58 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
Startale doesnt have zergs that can match DRG thats the problem

are you curious right now?

I wouldn't even count Curious as code S quality.

Curious is a strange case. He's amazing in code A and mediocre in Code S


A less steady YugiOh ?
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 12:05 GMT
#2260
I'm going to bed. Anyone could take Ryung vs Nova, but NesTea will demolish the winner...





And MC will win his third title, I'm calling it now. Unless Naniwa gets really lucky, this GSL is his.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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