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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26236 Posts
August 11 2012 23:23 GMT
#6441
On August 12 2012 08:21 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game

Yeah, unless you're Hero with all those warp prisms all over the place, and a more templar-centric midgame. So much more exciting to watch

Congrats on your reaver ^^

And yeah, I'm not going to compare, but I definitely do really like Hero's vZ playstyle. Crazy stuff, really want to see it today >.<

Holy shit, I should stop posting now I have my Reaver.

It's just so sad, BW PvZ involved so much cool multitasking and trading from both races, but it's really not optimal to play that way in WoL. You can win for sure, but it's just more consistently strong to deathball and do timings
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
August 11 2012 23:23 GMT
#6442
On August 12 2012 08:22 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:21 Chicane wrote:
Where can I find the results for the current bo9? I couldn't find them on liquipedia or in the OP.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IPL_Team_Arena_Challenge/3/Main_Event


Ahh the main event tab... that makes sense now that you bring it to my attention. Thank you, sir.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 11 2012 23:24 GMT
#6443
IM Protoss PvZ soooo good.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
August 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#6444
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#6445
First's stargate is like the best I've seen, he controls and pressures SO well.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#6446
Ouchies, First landing some big blows. I don't think Hero will get sent out D: they probably don't want to risk a PvP, and Taeja will probably be the ace or last person to be sent out (and if he's not, he just might kill off IM :X).
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
August 11 2012 23:26 GMT
#6447
Poll: do you believe Liquid has any chance without Taeja?

No (34)
 
83%

Yes (7)
 
17%

41 total votes

Your vote: do you believe Liquid has any chance without Taeja?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#6448
Why ret no make roaches
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#6449
more stupid polls plz
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 11 2012 23:28 GMT
#6450
On August 12 2012 08:25 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.

Zergs split their BL a lot now days. They're only really clumped when the Zerg is caught off guard or is being complacent because Brood Lord armies normally win any ways with minimal micro.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 11 2012 23:28 GMT
#6451
On August 12 2012 08:27 kju wrote:
more stupid polls plz

should have made that a poll
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 11 2012 23:29 GMT
#6452
First making a second stargate for no reason
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#6453
gg
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#6454
Finally, Ret actually has Burrow and puts it to good use.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#6455
that was a pretty bad trade for ret. but he got gglords now
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#6456
Ret choosing Ohana. Not surprised.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#6457
Ret morphing in 9 BLs! First needs better tech and a fourth to support it :O
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 11 2012 23:31 GMT
#6458
On August 12 2012 08:28 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:25 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.

Zergs split their BL a lot now days. They're only really clumped when the Zerg is caught off guard or is being complacent because Brood Lord armies normally win any ways with minimal micro.


the problem is it shouldnt even come down to that, but zergs are forced to go broodlord because ultras are so shit vs protoss, and there is no other end game tech, and that is why zergs always do the same thing cant really switch...maybe very rarely but tier 1 and 2 units own ultras.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 11 2012 23:31 GMT
#6459
On August 12 2012 08:30 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Ret choosing Ohana. Not surprised.


Really? Im no PvZ expert by any means, but isn't Ohana like a known Protoss maps with all the narrow corridors?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 23:34:37
August 11 2012 23:32 GMT
#6460
On August 12 2012 08:28 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:25 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.

Zergs split their BL a lot now days. They're only really clumped when the Zerg is caught off guard or is being complacent because Brood Lord armies normally win any ways with minimal micro.

or the bls start atking, and so they just natually clump. How many times have you seen a protoss get a whifted vortex vs money vortex? Its pretty easy to get either the BLs or the infestors from the vortex.

or the protoss just blinks under the BLs.
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