• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:15
CEST 17:15
KST 00:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League31Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1275.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Hands of Pluto Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch Practice Partners (Official) Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9784 users

IPL Face Off: San Francisco Showdown - TAC3 Finals - Page…

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 319 320 321 322 323 439 Next
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#6401
On August 12 2012 08:11 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:11 Zane wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 trinxified wrote:
Where is the other stream with idra, demuslim, incontrol?

What are they streaming?


commentating the game


I don't know about that.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#6402
On August 12 2012 08:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:09 TheDwf wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:07 Flonomenalz wrote:
IdrA is right, Zenio is pretty bad.

Master players handle that lategame better than he did, with that much of an econ advantage.

No. They don't.

Yes, I guess they refuse to micro their BLs too.

Yeah and the average masters player is able to deal with the pressure that First was exerted in the early/midgame as well is Zenio, am I right?



80 drones 5k minerals 3 spine crawlers
or make 20 spines in your base

masters players may over commit to defence but that was horrible decision making but zenio, after the successful defence of the spire, its so obvious he will attempt again, put down 5+ spines
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
August 11 2012 23:13 GMT
#6403
On August 12 2012 08:11 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:09 trinxified wrote:
Where is the other stream with idra, demuslim, incontrol?

What are they streaming?


They are randomly speaking, making fun and that kind of stuff. It's funs between rounds, nothing else.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 11 2012 23:13 GMT
#6404
lol 2gd seriously best person ever
IM & EG supporter
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 23:14:42
August 11 2012 23:13 GMT
#6405
On August 12 2012 08:11 ShakkaFL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:11 Zane wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 trinxified wrote:
Where is the other stream with idra, demuslim, incontrol?

What are they streaming?

they're just mocking anything they can to get attention

and to think thorzain is one of them now...



look! even first felt asleep
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6406
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.
You're now breathing manually
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6407
On August 12 2012 08:12 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 TheDwf wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:07 Flonomenalz wrote:
IdrA is right, Zenio is pretty bad.

Master players handle that lategame better than he did, with that much of an econ advantage.

No. They don't.

Yes, I guess they refuse to micro their BLs too.

Yeah and the average masters player is able to deal with the pressure that First was exerted in the early/midgame as well is Zenio, am I right?

Talking about that, I did not find his defence of the 4g pressure very accurate, he lost 3 Queens and had to use lots of larvae...

Not optimal, he made mistakes, point out mistakes, or whatever.

However Zenio is not a fucking "BAD' player. When did player bashing become acceptable? Maybe it's the influence of Demuslim's stream I guess, where EG shit-talk players who have infinitely better results than them.

This isn't directed at you btw, just a general rant.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6408
Is the stream about to go back on, they keep showing the stage/players.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
kaokentake
Profile Joined July 2012
383 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6409
the way first was playing made it impossible to NOT clump your broods

first was using collossi to swipe spines then running away and redo'ing it. infestors that tried to get close to fungal got swiped by collossi

next, only way to kill collossi used in that fashion was to fungal them and kill with broods. zenio tried that but naturally broods will clump when trying to do that

and if you keep your broods too spread out, the mobile toss army runs around swiping your spines with collossi range and taking out broodlords 1-by-1 because they arent together




not saying toss is OP but zerg needs to change their endgame plan imo.

how about just 6 broodlords, then some ultralisks, and infestors, and some roaches and a few corrupters. 1-a your army, spam fungal on the zealots they fall fast and broodlings make it so its hard for immortals to counter ultras, spam fungal growth on the entire toss army and it dies so fast and broodlord range makes it hard to feedback infestors when infestors are protected by ultras/broodlord range. carpet the entire toss army with fungals and infested terrans while ultralisks are very resistant to storms, entire toss army dies after 15 seconds of chain fungals and you maybe lose your army too, remax on 200food of roach ling and swarm all his expansions because he has no collossi/forcefields to deal with it
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6410
On August 12 2012 08:13 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:11 ShakkaFL wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:11 Zane wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 trinxified wrote:
Where is the other stream with idra, demuslim, incontrol?

What are they streaming?

they're just mocking anything they can to get attention

and to think thorzain is one of them now...

To think they would corrupt his young, pure soul. It's depressing, really.
Shadowcloak
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
August 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#6411
On August 12 2012 07:42 nanaoei wrote:
all this complaining, all this bashing,

why don't you try to fill in your time on your own? the event could be better obviously, but are you so dependent on this event and its content that you let all its problems affect you all that badly?

all the complaining gets less tasteful after a while.. really, think about it


Try being awake for this for ages just to see the worst trash in ages im dead tired but rlly want to see the end ( or at least hero). I think everyone has the right to complain bout this roflcopter dump they call a finals. Even zotac and z33k cups are better.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SUPP SON
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6412
Less then 30 minutes!
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6413
On August 12 2012 08:11 Doomwish wrote:
just send taeja out and get this overwith..gratz to IM if they manage to snipe him..if not gratz TL.

If vortexTaeja hits, protossLiquid wins, if vortexTaeja misses, zergIM wins? ^^

Also keke golden advice.

Darn, looks like Ret is up, wanted to see Hero get a few games in before they send out Taeja. First just showed how good his PvZ is though, maybe Ret has something in store for him.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6414
On August 12 2012 08:14 Monochromatic wrote:
Is the stream about to go back on, they keep showing the stage/players.

IT'S SOMETHING!
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6415
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6416
Ret will quit after 3 immortals push.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
August 11 2012 23:15 GMT
#6417
On August 12 2012 08:12 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 TheDwf wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:07 Flonomenalz wrote:
IdrA is right, Zenio is pretty bad.

Master players handle that lategame better than he did, with that much of an econ advantage.

No. They don't.

Yes, I guess they refuse to micro their BLs too.

Yeah and the average masters player is able to deal with the pressure that First was exerted in the early/midgame as well is Zenio, am I right?



80 drones 5k minerals 3 spine crawlers
or make 20 spines in your base

masters players may over commit to defence but that was horrible decision making but zenio, after the successful defence of the spire, its so obvious he will attempt again, put down 5+ spines

then first warps in 4 dts through a warp prism....i mean you need like 7 spines and like 3 spores to defend a greater spire.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
August 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#6418
Really Teamliquid is just using zergs as blood sacrifices to power Taeja, I mean it worked when they fed three zergs to Genius.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
August 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#6419
On August 12 2012 08:11 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:07 tomatriedes wrote:
Why so many people bitching about vortex and ignoring all the money feedbacks First got on Zenio's infestors?

Because I still don't understand how you get vortexed like that. I really don't understnad why he didn't split up a little bit, heck even 2GD saw a great move for Zenio, be above that "mountain" below the 4th(admittedly if all his bls were there he could get stormed, but having a few would still be good since stalkers couldn't engage).



it's more than just the vortex, he was under pressure until that very moment and probably did not expect an attack as soon. his newer bases were denied completely and the gas he needed was just not there. not to mention a lack of detection
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#6420
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game
Prev 1 319 320 321 322 323 439 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
King of the Hill #265
EmpressLilyy82
Liquipedia
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 561
Harstem 108
ProTech66
SHIN 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41261
Calm 4540
Horang2 1023
Soma 836
Mini 694
EffOrt 638
Stork 396
firebathero 383
BeSt 312
Soulkey 279
[ Show more ]
actioN 205
ggaemo 147
Snow 126
Zeus 123
Hyuk 123
Sharp 87
Free 72
Creator 66
910 60
Sea.KH 57
hero 56
Barracks 54
Hyun 52
Killer 51
Hm[arnc] 43
PianO 42
Shinee 41
Sexy 34
Trap 33
Last 32
ToSsGirL 23
HiyA 19
JYJ 18
Terrorterran 18
Rock 17
Sacsri 17
sorry 15
Bishop 11
yabsab 9
Dota 2
Gorgc6869
Dendi1427
syndereN340
420jenkins286
Counter-Strike
fl0m2443
Other Games
singsing2343
B2W.Neo1435
Beastyqt701
Khaldor571
Mlord558
XaKoH 264
Liquid`Hasu252
Hui .179
KnowMe162
crisheroes143
Fuzer 78
UpATreeSC25
fpsfer 2
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 17
• Adnapsc2 15
• StrangeGG 3
• Reevou 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 11
• FirePhoenix7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV717
League of Legends
• Nemesis2670
• Jankos1266
Other Games
• tFFMrPink 12
Upcoming Events
IPSL
45m
BSL Open Qualifier
3h 45m
WardiTV Weekly
19h 45m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 19h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
6 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.