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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1381
On July 08 2012 11:58 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:54 the`postman wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:52 MasterKang wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:50 Picklebread wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:49 MasterKang wrote:
MMA just made late vikings, he was playing amazing till that point

No i think he made a ton of mistakes that game. Just saying.


such as?

well his opener was thwarted and he lost 5-6 SCV's at his third base for free.


his opener wasn't designed to kill DRg. do u know how many lings he forced out from DRG? plus, once he saw that drg saw it, he immediately built a CC and got ahead in terms of workers. he lost those workers b/c it was basically a hidden base and DRg just happened to scout it, that's what alaways happens when a hidden base is found

That was a bad point imo. MMA played bad because he had a chance at his first push but he didnt focus fire down any banelings or anything/ spread tanks well or split well. He did that at the last engagement too so.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1382
This is actually pretty funny. If MKP MMA and MVP are slumping... which Terran isn't lol
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 03:05:24
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1383
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players

Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch.

MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build wasn't revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered.
Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken.
ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP.
Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then.
Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered.

Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more?

EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1384
On July 08 2012 12:01 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:59 honed wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:54 Havik_ wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players


The game is pretty much completely figured out at this point, there will be no revolution because there's nothing left to be discovered.





Considering the 14 year history that SC1 had, I don't think this is an accurate statement.


Okay I'll elaborate, there will be no revolution in TvZ because the optimal unit compositions have already been figured out, there's nothing that can be changed other than playing better with the current set of units.

And don't say Mech, Mech is terrible and will always lose to a Roach drop at 12-13 minutes before you can get a good army out.

theres a reason it's called discovery, and thats because it isnt already known. i dont think you realize how impossible it is to predict something like this. WOL will never reach maturity anyways, because hots and the other expansion will come out long before it does


I was simply saying there will not be a " revolution " similar to Bisu's PvZ in WOL TvZ, this is just my opinion but if it happens feel free to quote me down the road and laugh.

i dont think there will be either, not enough time.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1385
On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch


Well lets see spring arena where they played 2 games (6-10) DRG won 2-0, before that 4-3. Wouldn't say a 2-0 was crushing when they have only faced those 2 games since the patch.
When I think of something else, something will go here
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1386
On July 08 2012 11:59 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:59 chambertin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:58 blamekilly wrote:
It just feels like MMA's trying to fit a rectangular block into a circle hole.... He should try out new strategies instead of marine tanks.


the fuck?

mass scv?


Void Rays
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
InDesconrowl
Profile Joined April 2012
Togo311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 03:03:57
July 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1387
On July 08 2012 12:02 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch

DRG beat MKP in back to back MLG's prepatch, what are you talking about...


Dafuq? MKP won both of his MLGs over DRG. It wasn't until after the patch that DRG won a MLG this year.
:tg: Ginyu Force :tg:
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1388
On July 08 2012 12:02 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players

Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch.

MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build was revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered.
Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken.
ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP.
Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then.
Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered.

Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more?

EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?


wow. this is actually pretty amusing.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1389
Just 11/11 or 14cc and hope for the best, that's how MKP plays the game, he still wins some.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1390
On July 08 2012 12:01 CygnusAres wrote:
Polt this, Polt that, casters really need to stop giving him too much credit...


Doa like him a lot ( good friends ) but Dota tend to repeat himself a lot about analysis lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
July 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1391
someone needs to stop this terran holocaust
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1392
On July 08 2012 12:02 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch

DRG beat MKP in back to back MLG's prepatch, what are you talking about...


LoL MKP is the one who crushed Dongraegu 2 times in a row in MLG to win 2 back to back mlgs until the recent one when dongraegu learnt how to use the imba zerg buffs to his advantage
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1393
Oh wow drg is going to start 0-2 to Hero in a bo7. Hm I would rather 2 bo5's or something, but well hero just needs to have 2 of his all ins to work and he wins. That is either going to make the finals awesome or anticlimactic xD.
When I think of something else, something will go here
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1394
drg making the misread of the century
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States999 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1395
On July 08 2012 12:02 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players

Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch.

MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build was revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered.
Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken.
ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP.
Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then.
Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered.

Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more?

EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?


I think that terran is the only race where everything has been nerfed. Even hunter seeker missile got nerfed in the beta.

Have sensor towers been nerfed yet? Because I that might be the only thing left.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
mrlie3
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada350 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1396
wow mma faked allin by building cc outside of ovie's sight and went for 3 cc after proxy 2 rax. Pretty neat but hes gonna die to allins q.q
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1397
Thought DRG was misreading it, but he smartly canceled the spines. DRG is so good TT
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#1398
lol look at all those lings, MMA is dead.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 08 2012 03:05 GMT
#1399
On July 08 2012 12:02 chambertin wrote:
This is actually pretty funny. If MKP MMA and MVP are slumping... which Terran isn't lol


Jjakji !
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 03:05 GMT
#1400
no points for guessing how this ends lol T_T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
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