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On July 08 2012 11:58 MasterKang wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:54 the`postman wrote:On July 08 2012 11:52 MasterKang wrote:On July 08 2012 11:50 Picklebread wrote:On July 08 2012 11:49 MasterKang wrote:
MMA just made late vikings, he was playing amazing till that point No i think he made a ton of mistakes that game. Just saying. such as? well his opener was thwarted and he lost 5-6 SCV's at his third base for free. his opener wasn't designed to kill DRg. do u know how many lings he forced out from DRG? plus, once he saw that drg saw it, he immediately built a CC and got ahead in terms of workers. he lost those workers b/c it was basically a hidden base and DRg just happened to scout it, that's what alaways happens when a hidden base is found
That was a bad point imo. MMA played bad because he had a chance at his first push but he didnt focus fire down any banelings or anything/ spread tanks well or split well. He did that at the last engagement too so.
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This is actually pretty funny. If MKP MMA and MVP are slumping... which Terran isn't lol
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On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players
Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch.
MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build wasn't revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered.
Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken.
ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP.
Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then.
Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered.
Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more?
EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?
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On July 08 2012 12:01 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:59 honed wrote:On July 08 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:On July 08 2012 11:54 Havik_ wrote:On July 08 2012 11:52 Dodgin wrote:On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players The game is pretty much completely figured out at this point, there will be no revolution because there's nothing left to be discovered. Considering the 14 year history that SC1 had, I don't think this is an accurate statement. Okay I'll elaborate, there will be no revolution in TvZ because the optimal unit compositions have already been figured out, there's nothing that can be changed other than playing better with the current set of units. And don't say Mech, Mech is terrible and will always lose to a Roach drop at 12-13 minutes before you can get a good army out. theres a reason it's called discovery, and thats because it isnt already known. i dont think you realize how impossible it is to predict something like this. WOL will never reach maturity anyways, because hots and the other expansion will come out long before it does I was simply saying there will not be a " revolution " similar to Bisu's PvZ in WOL TvZ, this is just my opinion but if it happens feel free to quote me down the road and laugh.
i dont think there will be either, not enough time.
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On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012. Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch
Well lets see spring arena where they played 2 games (6-10) DRG won 2-0, before that 4-3. Wouldn't say a 2-0 was crushing when they have only faced those 2 games since the patch.
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On July 08 2012 11:59 MaNaVoId wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:59 chambertin wrote:On July 08 2012 11:58 blamekilly wrote:
It just feels like MMA's trying to fit a rectangular block into a circle hole.... He should try out new strategies instead of marine tanks. the fuck? mass scv?
Void Rays
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On July 08 2012 12:02 the`postman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012. Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch DRG beat MKP in back to back MLG's prepatch, what are you talking about...
Dafuq? MKP won both of his MLGs over DRG. It wasn't until after the patch that DRG won a MLG this year.
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On July 08 2012 12:02 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch. MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build was revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered. Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken. ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP. Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then. Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered. Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more? EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?
wow. this is actually pretty amusing.
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Just 11/11 or 14cc and hope for the best, that's how MKP plays the game, he still wins some.
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On July 08 2012 12:01 CygnusAres wrote:
Polt this, Polt that, casters really need to stop giving him too much credit...
Doa like him a lot ( good friends ) but Dota tend to repeat himself a lot about analysis lol
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someone needs to stop this terran holocaust
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On July 08 2012 12:02 the`postman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012. Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch DRG beat MKP in back to back MLG's prepatch, what are you talking about...
LoL MKP is the one who crushed Dongraegu 2 times in a row in MLG to win 2 back to back mlgs until the recent one when dongraegu learnt how to use the imba zerg buffs to his advantage
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Oh wow drg is going to start 0-2 to Hero in a bo7. Hm I would rather 2 bo5's or something, but well hero just needs to have 2 of his all ins to work and he wins. That is either going to make the finals awesome or anticlimactic xD.
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drg making the misread of the century
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On July 08 2012 12:02 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players Why would Terran players do that? Every time a Terran wins with something that nobody has seen before, it's "fixed" next patch. MorroW wins with Reapers; but his build was revolutionary, it was just that Terran is overpowered. Slayers Terrans bring their Blue Flame Hellion build to MLG; it's not because it's a revolutionary build, it's because it's broken. ThorZaIN beats MC with Thors; clearly Thors are OP. Mvp snipes everything; well no more Snipe then. Hellion openings vZ help Terrans detect early threats while applying some mild pressure/denying creep; clearly that build/style was overpowered. Can you see why maybe Terrans don't feel like coming up with new stuff any more? EDIT: Also, both of the other races have always found answers from Blizzard for their problems, why not Terran?
I think that terran is the only race where everything has been nerfed. Even hunter seeker missile got nerfed in the beta.
Have sensor towers been nerfed yet? Because I that might be the only thing left.
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wow mma faked allin by building cc outside of ovie's sight and went for 3 cc after proxy 2 rax. Pretty neat but hes gonna die to allins q.q
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Thought DRG was misreading it, but he smartly canceled the spines. DRG is so good TT
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lol look at all those lings, MMA is dead.
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On July 08 2012 12:02 chambertin wrote:
This is actually pretty funny. If MKP MMA and MVP are slumping... which Terran isn't lol
Jjakji !
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no points for guessing how this ends lol T_T
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