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blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#1361
It just feels like MMA's trying to fit a rectangular block into a circle hole.... He should try out new strategies instead of marine tanks.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#1362
On July 08 2012 11:57 gape.ninja wrote:
did mma get bopped?


yes
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#1363
On July 08 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:54 Havik_ wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players


The game is pretty much completely figured out at this point, there will be no revolution because there's nothing left to be discovered.





Considering the 14 year history that SC1 had, I don't think this is an accurate statement.


Okay I'll elaborate, there will be no revolution in TvZ because the optimal unit compositions have already been figured out, there's nothing that can be changed other than playing better with the current set of units.

And don't say Mech, Mech is terrible and will always lose to a Roach drop at 12-13 minutes before you can get a good army out.


You can do a lot of good with small changes in the play.
Look at TvP, and how Bomber voice to not get the second gas so quickly after 1rax FE lead to have earlier 4 and 5 rax, which make holding an important timing easier.

That's some huge metagame change, from a very small thing.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1364
On July 08 2012 11:58 blamekilly wrote:
It just feels like MMA's trying to fit a rectangular block into a circle hole.... He should try out new strategies instead of marine tanks.


the fuck?
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1365
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.
When I think of something else, something will go here
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1366
On July 08 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:54 Havik_ wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players


The game is pretty much completely figured out at this point, there will be no revolution because there's nothing left to be discovered.





Considering the 14 year history that SC1 had, I don't think this is an accurate statement.


Okay I'll elaborate, there will be no revolution in TvZ because the optimal unit compositions have already been figured out, there's nothing that can be changed other than playing better with the current set of units.

And don't say Mech, Mech is terrible and will always lose to a Roach drop at 12-13 minutes before you can get a good army out.

theres a reason it's called discovery, and thats because it isnt already known. i dont think you realize how impossible it is to predict something like this. WOL will never reach maturity anyways, because hots and the other expansion will come out long before it does
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1367
On July 08 2012 11:59 chambertin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:58 blamekilly wrote:
It just feels like MMA's trying to fit a rectangular block into a circle hole.... He should try out new strategies instead of marine tanks.


the fuck?

mass scv?
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1368
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch

rofl, MMA isn't even in the same ballpark as DRG
Gijian
Profile Joined February 2011
United States273 Posts
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1369
MMA looks like he's in a slump right now...guess he is joining MKP and MVP.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 03:02:38
July 08 2012 02:59 GMT
#1370
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch

I think that TvZ is Zerg favored, but even knowing that, MMA is really not playing very well right now. Even against Protoss and Terran.
He's in a real slump, not the usual "TvZ lol" slump the other Terrans are facing.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 08 2012 03:00 GMT
#1371
On July 08 2012 11:59 Gijian wrote:
MMA looks like he's in a slump right now...guess he is joining MKP and MVP.


He's been in a slump all year tbh. Rather sad I miss when MMA was considered one of the best terrans ever, was always a pleasure to watch
When I think of something else, something will go here
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
July 08 2012 03:00 GMT
#1372
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
July 08 2012 03:00 GMT
#1373
This is silly, I don't even play Terran, I just want entertaining games. Even if there could be a fix by waiting long enough and seeing the matchup develop, I'd kinda like to see some interesting games in TvZ instead of the Terran getting smashed every time.

I used to really enjoy watching TvZ, but now I usually tab out because it's so boring with the zerg never taking damage.
tianGO
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina591 Posts
July 08 2012 03:00 GMT
#1374
Lanis stream is amazing, the awkwardness level just surpassed 9000.
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future."
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
July 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#1375
2 rax in the worst position possible...
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
July 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#1376
mkp,mma and mvp should switch to zerg
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
July 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#1377
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


DRG is a fucking machine, but they are same ballpark at least and he's making MMA look like a 14 y.o. who just picked up the game for funsies...
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
July 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#1378
Polt this, Polt that, casters really need to stop giving him too much credit...
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 08 2012 03:01 GMT
#1379
On July 08 2012 11:59 honed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:54 Havik_ wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
I think a terran revolution is needed. But it doesn´t have to come from blizzard, it has to come from the players


The game is pretty much completely figured out at this point, there will be no revolution because there's nothing left to be discovered.





Considering the 14 year history that SC1 had, I don't think this is an accurate statement.


Okay I'll elaborate, there will be no revolution in TvZ because the optimal unit compositions have already been figured out, there's nothing that can be changed other than playing better with the current set of units.

And don't say Mech, Mech is terrible and will always lose to a Roach drop at 12-13 minutes before you can get a good army out.

theres a reason it's called discovery, and thats because it isnt already known. i dont think you realize how impossible it is to predict something like this. WOL will never reach maturity anyways, because hots and the other expansion will come out long before it does


I was simply saying there will not be a " revolution " similar to Bisu's PvZ in WOL TvZ, this is just my opinion but if it happens feel free to quote me down the road and laugh.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 08 2012 03:02 GMT
#1380
On July 08 2012 12:00 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:59 blade55555 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:58 HotGlueGun wrote:
TvZ with players of equal skill is just atrocious to watch


I wouldn't say they are equal anymore even pre-patch. MMA has been struggling all year long and DRG has only been crushing a majority of 2012.


Well even mkp who crushed DRG pre-patch suddenly gets crushed by Dongraegu after the patch

DRG beat MKP in back to back MLG's prepatch, what are you talking about...
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