EPT[Code S] RO32 Group H GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 15
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:38 IshinShishi wrote: He didn't?I think for every storm Ace hit Taeja dodged/he missed another 7, just sad to see how Ace won that game despite playing way way worse, Taeja simply didn't punish his fast expansions while he could. The very last fight, TaeJa split his units back and then ran back to continue fighting. Combined with the Collosi fire, majority of his army vaporized instantly. | ||
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pyro19
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Also fighting while being in storm is... strange. He lost his ghosts carelessly EMP'ing nothing but stalkers/colossi. So... as much as I would agree that Protoss late game is hard to beat, that certainly was more TaeJas fuckup than Protoss OP. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:40 M7Jagger wrote: Yeah, but it wasn't even close. If you emp the entire army it should be close. He also did quite some damage in the early game, how come Ace went toe to toe with him in the late game? Fuck TvP. Well Taeja didn't use the advantage he got from getting free units in the early game at all. He could have attacked Ace's 3rd really easily. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: Does mech still not work against protoss? Every single unit Ace had was clumped and ground based, seems like 15 siege tanks with ghost and thor support would have been able to shell it? Siege tanks don't do enough damage. Simple as that. Sure you can do a lot of damage to the Protoss army but they can just warp in more, meanwhile each Siege Tank you lose takes a long time to remake. You just will never be able to trade efficiently enough to be able to make a siege tank heavy army work against Protoss ground forces unless they're massing Stalkers. | ||
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Ertu
Greece686 Posts
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:40 Reasonable wrote: Taeja did worse than Tastosis make it out to be. If you let Protoss max out with templars + colossi, then you pretty much lost the game. No econ damage, no harassment or trading whatsoever. Poor micro in engagements, just letting all of the ghost die, sure he dodged some storms very nicely, but the last big engagement was horrible from taeja. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: Does mech still not work against protoss? Every single unit Ace had was clumped and ground based, seems like 15 siege tanks with ghost and thor support would have been able to shell it? lool which league are u in? ace would mix in more immortals if he sees taeja meching and chargelots +immortals + anything actually from P army > tank gg | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: Does mech still not work against protoss? Every single unit Ace had was clumped and ground based, seems like 15 siege tanks with ghost and thor support would have been able to shell it? He made those units because he did not face mech. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:40 M7Jagger wrote: Yeah, but it wasn't even close. If you emp the entire army it should be close. He also did quite some damage in the early game, how come Ace went toe to toe with him in the late game? Fuck TvP. What? He let Ace get away with 3base 1gate for free, how is that early damage lol. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:40 Type|NarutO wrote: As much as I like TaeJa, his engagement was poor. The micro Artosis and Tasteless were calling good was actually pointless and more harm than good to him. He did move in the storm-area back and forth, not even dodging it but preventing his units from shooting (because they were constantly moving). He had too less ghosts and his engagement angle (front to front) was horrible. His vikings need to engange 1 side of the colossi to focus one at a time. Also fighting while being in storm is... strange. He lost his ghosts carelessly EMP'ing nothing but stalkers/colossi. So... as much as I would agree that Protoss late game is hard to beat, that certainly was more TaeJas fuckup than Protoss OP. Summarizes pretty much everything I was thinking | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:38 IshinShishi wrote: He didn't?I think for every storm Ace hit Taeja dodged/he missed another 7, just sad to see how Ace won that game despite playing way way worse, Taeja simply didn't punish his fast expansions while he could. He did run his ghosts against two storms, then Ace got vision of them and they vanished to the colossi. I wish Taeja would at least try to drop, Ace had all his important building at the same place. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:41 HaXXspetten wrote: Summarizes pretty much everything I was thinking Yup, same here, Thank you for that^^ | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:40 M7Jagger wrote: Yeah, but it wasn't even close. If you emp the entire army it should be close. He also did quite some damage in the early game, how come Ace went toe to toe with him in the late game? Fuck TvP. It was close at first. Then the follow up warp in from Ace tipped the scales into his favor. That's the big problem. It doesn't matter if you clear out all the Zealots when you're trading your army away, if you don't kill the Collosus, the follow up warp in will just break you. | ||
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:41 Serelitz wrote: What? He let Ace get away with 3base 1gate for free, how is that early damage lol. don't bother just more people crying, why do people play or watch sc2 if they're just going to complain about it? | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On June 21 2012 18:42 Vindicare605 wrote: It was close at first. Then the follow up warp in from Ace tipped the scales into his favor. That's the big problem. It doesn't matter if you clear out all the Zealots when you're trading your army away, if you don't kill the Collosus, the follow up warp in will just break you. Taeja was doing pretty well, and was ahead all the way until he way overcommited at Ace's natural, first getting stormed from the high ground, and then not getting out of there when it became clear that he couldn't win, at which point he was in fact still ahead, but instead he lost his entire army, and then everything snowballed out of control. | ||
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