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On June 19 2012 07:22 Psotnik wrote:
its 00:20 in Poland now, delaying finals was the most stupid idea ever, the 3 days everything was perfect, the quality strem, info on when everything starts, and such a big fart in the end, and its working day... damn mana, because of him im gonna die at work tommorow.
if sunday finals happened at 00:20 , wouldn't you have died at work on monday o.o? so where's the difference
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weirdest thing is that before the finals they don't even give us good music...
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On June 19 2012 07:22 JayJay_90 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:20 Fishgle wrote:On June 19 2012 07:19 JayJay_90 wrote:On June 19 2012 07:17 mordk wrote:On June 19 2012 07:15 MentalGNT wrote:On June 19 2012 07:10 Candadar wrote:On June 19 2012 07:09 Azarkon wrote:On June 19 2012 07:06 maartendq wrote:On June 19 2012 07:04 masterchip27 wrote:On June 19 2012 07:01 maartendq wrote:
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I watched Starcraft without much idea of what does what. I had played the campaign a few times, but I mainly started watching it because I once saw a documentary about Starcraft being a popular competitive video game in South Korea.
I had a great time watching practically all the games on gomtv.net, grew really fond of tasteless as a caster (I still am, even though Artosis drowns him out way too much and Tasteless' passion for Starcraft 2 isn't on the same level as his passion for BW). I found out very quickly how the game functioned. The premise was also very easy: destroy the other player's base.
Like you said, in a MOBA game you have to know each of the heroes, and there tend to be a lot. Next there's also the items, critters that randomly seem to attack towers (what's their function?), gold etc. There's a lot of stuff you cannot know unless you play the game yourself, or do a ton of research. That's not good for a spectator sport. Football, tennis, basketball, hell even american football are all sports that are relatively easy to understand for people who are new to them. The finesse unfolds if you watch it a lot. It's not something I see happening with MOBA games, a genre which I personally find a bastardization of the RTS genre (since you basically only have to control one unit). Empirically league of legends has had a higher magnitude of livestream viewers than sc2 recently, at many events. So, I wouldn't be too sure about that theorycrafting. If a game is popular to play, and has a good competitive scene, people will watch. Well, it's a free and relatively casual game, with in-game stream support (hint HINT, blizzard?). It's got a way higher playerbase than SC2 as well, again, because it is free to play. If SC2's multiplayer were suddenly F2P, we'd see SC2 player number surge! No, we won't. SC 2 started off with a player base of 1 million+ players in the NA. It's a tiny fraction of that - around 10,000-20,000 by my last log in to the NA server - who play online ladder matches. Competitive RTS games aren't that attractive to casual players, and it's the casual players who make up the bulk of MOBA viewers. MOBA Please stop using this term. It's fucking retarded. -The Society of People Who Undestand What MOBA Stands For Can you explain what it is then? First result on "MOBA" into google is a site about LoL strategy. Aren't LoL, DOTA, HoN etc. MOBAs? I'm not trolling. Genuine question. MOBA is a term coined by LoL developers iirc, imo the problem with the term is it doesn't describe AT ALL what happens in a DotA/LoL/HoN type of game, so I hate it. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena?? WTF is that?! There needs to be a term to describe that kind of games though. Give me a better one and I'm never gonna use moba again  Defense of the Ancients. Where each team defends their respective Ancients (bases). Quite simple really. sorry, that doesn't do the trick. you can't just take the name of one of those games, i might aswell call them dota clones then. and an ancient is not exactly a general term.
It should be headquarters defense or something but no one would want their game to be in a genre that sounds that stupid
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When are the finals gonna be aired? I just tuned in to DH.
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On June 19 2012 07:23 Al Bundy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:21 hXc_ wrote:On June 19 2012 07:20 Fishgle wrote:On June 19 2012 07:19 JayJay_90 wrote:On June 19 2012 07:17 mordk wrote:On June 19 2012 07:15 MentalGNT wrote:On June 19 2012 07:10 Candadar wrote:On June 19 2012 07:09 Azarkon wrote:On June 19 2012 07:06 maartendq wrote:On June 19 2012 07:04 masterchip27 wrote:
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Empirically league of legends has had a higher magnitude of livestream viewers than sc2 recently, at many events. So, I wouldn't be too sure about that theorycrafting. If a game is popular to play, and has a good competitive scene, people will watch.
Well, it's a free and relatively casual game, with in-game stream support (hint HINT, blizzard?). It's got a way higher playerbase than SC2 as well, again, because it is free to play. If SC2's multiplayer were suddenly F2P, we'd see SC2 player number surge! No, we won't. SC 2 started off with a player base of 1 million+ players in the NA. It's a tiny fraction of that - around 10,000-20,000 by my last log in to the NA server - who play online ladder matches. Competitive RTS games aren't that attractive to casual players, and it's the casual players who make up the bulk of MOBA viewers. MOBA Please stop using this term. It's fucking retarded. -The Society of People Who Undestand What MOBA Stands For Can you explain what it is then? First result on "MOBA" into google is a site about LoL strategy. Aren't LoL, DOTA, HoN etc. MOBAs? I'm not trolling. Genuine question. MOBA is a term coined by LoL developers iirc, imo the problem with the term is it doesn't describe AT ALL what happens in a DotA/LoL/HoN type of game, so I hate it. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena?? WTF is that?! There needs to be a term to describe that kind of games though. Give me a better one and I'm never gonna use moba again Defense of the Ancients. Where each team defends their respective Ancients (bases). Quite simple really. so even more simply it is tower defence, right? Well according to wikipedia, "The goal of tower defense games is to try to stop enemies from crossing a map by building towers which shoot at them as they pass." So dota can't be a tower defense game. Afaik one cannot build towers in dota.
but the game is about towers which you defend, right?
tower defence
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OMFG ITS STARTING PREPARE YOUR BODYS
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
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wohoo changeeee at least some commercials
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United States97277 Posts
Well at least we are getting some commercials now
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LR from Swedish TV:
djWheat talked about how excited he was about Esports
Uknown female Swedish host talked allot of "Swengelska"
Madelisk, the female swedish SCII pro-gamer talked alittle about what SCII was, basically explaining the game for new people.
Some more Swengelska.
Seems like it's starting now, FINALLY.
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On June 19 2012 07:23 YandereQT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:22 OlSpiced wrote:
Dreamhack, please fill the waiting time with something.
Interviews
Some Casters chatting
Porn
Some music besides the sc2 stuff
One IPL had K-Pop, and it was still better than that Highlight reel would be quite nice
judging from twitter you should add a stephano livestream to that list
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EPT
