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On June 19 2012 05:50 Nifel wrote:
Imoho Dreamhack has been the most enjoyable tournament I've watched for a while. Great production, casting and whatever people say, pretty good play overall (I also love when unknowns get a chance to steal the spotlight).
Mana vs Dimaga is a pretty epic finals anyway. Tons of history between the players. Mana being back in the finals of the tournament that arguably was his breakthrough into the SC2 scene (Mana vs Naama finals anyone?). And hey, the guy couldn't ask for a better kick off on his full time pro career. :D
People complaining about level of play are just pissed their favourites lost. The games thusfar have been pretty damn good. The things that are holding DH back is the lack of vision of the players (which makes it feel like an online tournament) and the somewhat dodgy format and scheduling. Other then that, pretty good event.
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On June 19 2012 05:50 JayJay_90 wrote:
Tobi is probably (one of) the best caster in esports. I used to hate Dota and he's the sole reason I actually got into watching it recently. I still can't imagine myself playing it (unless my mates force me to maybe) and I think the early game is pretty boring, but lategame teamfights are damn cool. If Dota 2 becomes a major esports, I'd be fine with that.
hmmm the problem with tobi is his knowledge isnt the best, casting big team fights is fucking hard, and he does it fucking well, but his game knowledge/anaylsis is sub par, if he gets paired with a very good analysis caster its great, but for me i prefer lumi/nebu1a casting dota
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Are they actually gonna show the DOTA2 finals or just explain the game? LOL. Those games better go fast as hell or SCII will be delayed allot.
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On June 19 2012 05:52 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 05:50 JayJay_90 wrote:
Tobi is probably (one of) the best caster in esports. I used to hate Dota and he's the sole reason I actually got into watching it recently. I still can't imagine myself playing it (unless my mates force me to maybe) and I think the early game is pretty boring, but lategame teamfights are damn cool. If Dota 2 becomes a major esports, I'd be fine with that. hmmm the problem with tobi is his knowledge isnt the best, casting big team fights is fucking hard, and he does it fucking well, but his game knowledge/anaylsis is sub par, if he gets paired with a very good analysis caster its great, but for me i prefer lumi/nebu1a casting dota
Tobi + Synderen = awesomeness.
Oh and I'm a complete noob, so I can't tell how much knowledge he really has^^
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I dont understand why some people doesnt want to watch the final.
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Annoying as hell, first a very long pause then another game (Dota) steal time for the big sc2 event.
Boring that when this big event is too late even if it is sent from my own country, goodnight. 
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On June 19 2012 05:48 setzer wrote:
"This MOBA will never go mainstream"
Yet DoTA is watched by millions of Chinese and LoL has triple the viewers SC2 usually has.
What does mainstream mean anyway in this context? I think the games are already as mainstream as it gets with PC gaming. A big part of the playerbase watches the tournaments too, so thats where they get their huge viewer numbers.
That's about as big as e-sports get, right?
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On June 19 2012 05:53 Integra wrote:
Are they actually gonna show the DOTA2 finals or just explain the game? LOL. Those games better go fast as hell or SCII will be delayed allot.
Teams are picking heroes or something
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On June 19 2012 05:53 JayJay_90 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 05:52 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 19 2012 05:50 JayJay_90 wrote:
Tobi is probably (one of) the best caster in esports. I used to hate Dota and he's the sole reason I actually got into watching it recently. I still can't imagine myself playing it (unless my mates force me to maybe) and I think the early game is pretty boring, but lategame teamfights are damn cool. If Dota 2 becomes a major esports, I'd be fine with that. hmmm the problem with tobi is his knowledge isnt the best, casting big team fights is fucking hard, and he does it fucking well, but his game knowledge/anaylsis is sub par, if he gets paired with a very good analysis caster its great, but for me i prefer lumi/nebu1a casting dota Tobi + Synderen = awesomeness
+ being free to say what they want without caring about spoilers =)
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Wait you can be a hydralisk in this game? Cool.
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On June 19 2012 05:53 Integra wrote:
Are they actually gonna show the DOTA2 finals or just explain the game? LOL. Those games better go fast as hell or SCII will be delayed allot.
what do you mean show the finals or just explain the game?
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they take longer to pick their characters than most sc2 matches
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On June 19 2012 05:47 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 05:46 Coal wrote:On June 19 2012 05:44 Serpico wrote:On June 19 2012 05:44 kask wrote:
Holy crap dota 2 truly sucks to watch when you know nothing about the game.. this will never go mainstream. Just like LoL, right? You think SC2 is easy to follow for people that don't play it? -________________________- Well it's gonna be a whole lot easier then MOBA style games, i can tell you that for a fact.
Not at all ;\
MOBA gameplay is relatively simple compared to SC2. You kill enemy heroes/creeps and the endgoal is to kill the enemy throne. The map is always the same, it's always 5v5, starting locations and direction of attack never changes. etc. The most confusing part is that they don't use homogenized colors and there are sooooo many heros/spells/abilities to learn
SC2 on the other hand is almost completely foreign to someone who has never played an RTS game and the strategy involved is much less intuitive imo.
That said, having played both games a lot, I'd prefer to watch SC2 over DOTA, as I said, the strategy and mind games are more intense. And it takes a while and some familiarity with the game for people to recognize how mechanically adroit and impressive SC pros are.
IMO this is a huge reason why MOBAs have been killing RTS lately, they are much more intuitive and the simpler gameplay is easier to pick up on as a player and a spectator.
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On June 19 2012 05:53 Integra wrote:
Are they actually gonna show the DOTA2 finals or just explain the game? LOL. Those games better go fast as hell or SCII will be delayed allot.
On June 19 2012 05:54 Bashion wrote:
they take longer to pick their characters than most sc2 matches
Drafting is pretty important yo
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The fact that this game is currently being shown on my TV is kind of cool ;D
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On June 19 2012 05:54 GwSC wrote:
Wait you can be a hydralisk in this game? Cool.
A Hydra, or Kael'Thas, from what I can make out.
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On June 19 2012 05:44 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 05:44 kask wrote:
Holy crap dota 2 truly sucks to watch when you know nothing about the game.. this will never go mainstream. Just like LoL, right?
LoL ist way slower and not that difficult to understand. I've no trouble at all to understand what they doing in LoL even if I don't now any skills oder Items and just played sometimes a year ago. Therefor the game is incredibly boring to watch, the highest moment of feelings comes when one player does a nearly smart move. -.-
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On June 19 2012 05:54 Bashion wrote:
they take longer to pick their characters than most sc2 matches
lol
Well, drafting is a game in itself.
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they need 20 min to pick heroes ? T.T
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