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does anyone know the music in the Eizo screen commercial?
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On June 19 2012 04:02 theBALLS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. He has spoken.
yea that psychologists must be a boss
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On June 19 2012 04:00 Kontys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Chenz wrote:On June 19 2012 03:45 Lordanubis wrote:
Every good player out?
Just wtf... Nope, there's 3 great players still left in the tournament. Quoted for truth. You not knowing a player =/= Player not being good. I've been thinking about commenting on this for a while. The thing is, the professional gaming scene is much more laissez-faire in SC2 than BW was. The best players can come out of nowhere, they don't need a license, they don't need to even belong to a licensed team. They do not need to go through years of in-house rankings and training to qualify for their bosses to send them out to play for their team in an actual tournament setting. Great players simply emerge out of nowhere, and it stands above all, as a testament to the collective strength and variety of the region they belong to. They reflect the very real situation, that the Bnet ladder is seriously a place where some of the very best starcraft is played, enabling individual players to improve through simply their own perseverence. It simply happens that the grass roots activity of the player base in SC2 produces amazing players capable of defeating big name professionals on established rich teams. This isn't the first time, and it will most definitely not be the last time this happens at a Dreamhack!
Why in the flying fuck is everyone talking about Dimaga and Mana like they're unknown underdogs that have come out of no where. They've been around for a long time and they have been doing pretty well.
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On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses.
While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately
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On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses.
This LR just stepped up a notch.
Pretty impossible to deny analysis from Idra.
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On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses.
The zerg has spoken.
Dimaga for champion!
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meh, so disgusted by stephano's play. i mean, not directly, but he was the most skilled person in the tournament, perhaps saving others by cleaning up keen, though his zvp is too straight-forward and zvz can be lacking. closely followed by hero and perhaps some others. he lost. even though he is inarguably (well, you can argue, since he obviously wasn't better in these games) better than the opponent, he still can't mix it up. the banedrop play also utilized by dimaga simply destroys sentry immortal all ins. if he hid a bane nest with a overlord creep(just a proposition, doesn't have to be done), the oppening looks identical to default stephanos, altho he's actually geting melee weapons and starts his lair perhaps a moment earlier. instant win against this "herp, i'm playing against stephano, so i'll allin" altho i can somewhat read his character and i understand how he is not BM by his standards (and mine, for that matter), this ignorance simply feels like rigid knife stabbing in my eye everytime i see him die to the same mediocre all in.
Anyway go Dimaga, since he's somewhat immune to that crap and others, like stephano, should learn from that.
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Can someone help me with the conversion? I'm clearly an idiot. Does UTC = CST -5 or -6?
I believe it will be at either 5:15 or 6:15 CST. Can someone let me know which is correct?
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woot Idra droppin the knowledge bombs and actually saying why protoss is NOT broken against zerg? awesome.
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Guys, I haven't been able to watch any of the games this weekend, I have only used liquipedia to check the results. So who is this underdog Fraer??? Is he just cheesy or decent for the future?
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On June 19 2012 03:59 Darneck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:55 TheSir wrote:On June 19 2012 03:54 kellenr wrote:
Time of finals? 23:15 Grand Final (BO5) - DreamArena Extreme Stupidly long break, i totally dont like the setup of the last day. How is it a stupidly long break when the second semi final could potentionally take 1-2 hours?
A BO3 is not gonna take 2 hours. On all events a single BO3 match is scheduled for a hour or less and now you have 99% chance you have a hour (prolly longer) long break between semi finals and the final... thats just stupid
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On June 19 2012 04:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately
hahahahahahahahahah omg <3 rofl
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Would this be Mana's first major tournament win if he wins this? I can't think of any big tournaments won by him
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On June 19 2012 04:03 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:02 theBALLS wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. He has spoken. yea that psychologists must be a boss
Sports psychologist  And they are very common in traditional professional sports.
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On June 19 2012 04:04 InDaHouse wrote:
Guys, I haven't been able to watch any of the games this weekend, I have only used liquipedia to check the results. So who is this underdog Fraer??? Is he just cheesy or decent for the future?
really solid mechanics, let's see if he can handle the pressure and nerves well enough
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On June 19 2012 04:00 Kontys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Chenz wrote:On June 19 2012 03:45 Lordanubis wrote:
Every good player out?
Just wtf... Nope, there's 3 great players still left in the tournament. Quoted for truth. You not knowing a player =/= Player not being good. I've been thinking about commenting on this for a while. The thing is, the professional gaming scene is much more laissez-faire in SC2 than BW was. The best players can come out of nowhere, they don't need a license, they don't need to even belong to a licensed team. They do not need to go through years of in-house rankings and training to qualify for their bosses to send them out to play for their team in an actual tournament setting. Great players simply emerge out of nowhere, and it stands above all, as a testament to the collective strength and variety of the region they belong to. They reflect the very real situation, that the Bnet ladder is seriously a place where some of the very best starcraft is played, enabling individual players to improve through simply their own perseverence. It simply happens that the grass roots activity of the player base in SC2 produces amazing players capable of defeating big name professionals on established rich teams. This isn't the first time, and it will most definitely not be the last time this happens at a Dreamhack!
Seeing how Starcraft2 is still in an infant stage this is how it should work. Kespa didn't have control of BW in 1999 - early 2000s sc2 isn't even 5 years old yet.
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damn MaNa is BEAST, this kid was like 16 when he was playing broodwar and was a notable figure then, ive been waiting and watching for some very honorable moments from him in sc2, and this has been the largest one in a while
Praying for a MaNa Vs Dimaga finals
2 semi pro broodwar players who never got too far, going for gold in sc2 
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On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses.
Greg with an actual good response. That's rare.
Anyway, no one is unstoppable atm. Seriously. Let's not overreact.
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On June 19 2012 04:05 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately hahahahahahahahahah omg <3 rofl
I always have hope
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On June 19 2012 04:03 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 Kontys wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Chenz wrote:On June 19 2012 03:45 Lordanubis wrote:
Every good player out?
Just wtf... Nope, there's 3 great players still left in the tournament. Quoted for truth. You not knowing a player =/= Player not being good. I've been thinking about commenting on this for a while. The thing is, the professional gaming scene is much more laissez-faire in SC2 than BW was. The best players can come out of nowhere, they don't need a license, they don't need to even belong to a licensed team. They do not need to go through years of in-house rankings and training to qualify for their bosses to send them out to play for their team in an actual tournament setting. Great players simply emerge out of nowhere, and it stands above all, as a testament to the collective strength and variety of the region they belong to. They reflect the very real situation, that the Bnet ladder is seriously a place where some of the very best starcraft is played, enabling individual players to improve through simply their own perseverence. It simply happens that the grass roots activity of the player base in SC2 produces amazing players capable of defeating big name professionals on established rich teams. This isn't the first time, and it will most definitely not be the last time this happens at a Dreamhack! Why in the flying fuck is everyone talking about Dimaga and Mana like they're unknown underdogs that have come out of no where. They've been around for a long time and they have been doing pretty well.
I think it will slowly change while EU catches up with koreans and players show more results at these major tournaments.
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