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On June 19 2012 04:07 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:03 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. This LR just stepped up a notch. Pretty impossible to deny analysis from Idra. Usually he's very biased, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said in that blurb.
Yup, I agree.
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Lets go Dimaga!!!!!!!!!
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On June 19 2012 04:07 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:03 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. This LR just stepped up a notch. Pretty impossible to deny analysis from Idra. Usually he's very biased, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said in that blurb.
Thank god. I, and I'm sure Idra, was wondering if you would approve.
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On June 19 2012 04:07 elKaDor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:49 Ryps wrote:Fun fact; Mana makes more money than his parents at 18y old from playing starcraft  (he said it) Cheer for him ! Was actually thinking about this earlier today, when Na'Vi won the Dota 2 Pre Tournament with 1m$, aint ukraine (not meaning to offend or anything) kinda poor country? correct me if im wrong but since they won they should be like rich like fuck in their country  "rich like fuck"
I'm totally stealing that
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I like how when people say Stephano will win things easy... he loses. When will people learn.
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Fraer with a Gateway expand and no wall. I'm getting flashbacks to IMSeed.
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Russian Federation396 Posts
On June 19 2012 04:06 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:03 lisward wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 Kontys wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Chenz wrote:On June 19 2012 03:45 Lordanubis wrote:
Every good player out?
Just wtf... Nope, there's 3 great players still left in the tournament. Quoted for truth. You not knowing a player =/= Player not being good. I've been thinking about commenting on this for a while. The thing is, the professional gaming scene is much more laissez-faire in SC2 than BW was. The best players can come out of nowhere, they don't need a license, they don't need to even belong to a licensed team. They do not need to go through years of in-house rankings and training to qualify for their bosses to send them out to play for their team in an actual tournament setting. Great players simply emerge out of nowhere, and it stands above all, as a testament to the collective strength and variety of the region they belong to. They reflect the very real situation, that the Bnet ladder is seriously a place where some of the very best starcraft is played, enabling individual players to improve through simply their own perseverence. It simply happens that the grass roots activity of the player base in SC2 produces amazing players capable of defeating big name professionals on established rich teams. This isn't the first time, and it will most definitely not be the last time this happens at a Dreamhack! Why in the flying fuck is everyone talking about Dimaga and Mana like they're unknown underdogs that have come out of no where. They've been around for a long time and they have been doing pretty well. I think it will slowly change while EU catches up with koreans and players show more results at these major tournaments.
because for both MaNa and Dimaga its rare when they place very high in a big tournament, this is probably among their top 3 achievements in sc2 for both of them, and for whoever wins, definitely their top1
Strelok has been around for a long time and isnt doing terrible either, i bet if he comes top 3 here as well itll be big news, opposed to if stephano or MC came in top 3 itd be expected
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On June 19 2012 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Would this be Mana's first major tournament win if he wins this? I can't think of any big tournaments won by him
never count dimaga out.
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Eastern European glory since long time.
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On June 19 2012 04:07 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Would this be Mana's first major tournament win if he wins this? I can't think of any big tournaments won by him Yes. He is always second - DH Winter 2010, Assembly (2011 I think?), ESWC 2011 and I certainly forgot some of his second places.
He was 2nd earlier this year at Gamers Assembly as well, and it was Assembly Summer 2011.
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On June 19 2012 04:08 TheSwamp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:07 StarStruck wrote:On June 19 2012 04:03 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. This LR just stepped up a notch. Pretty impossible to deny analysis from Idra. Usually he's very biased, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said in that blurb. Thank god. I, and I'm sure Idra, was wondering if you would approve.
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He doesn't care what anyone else thinks but himself bud, but you can try to pick my bones all you want.
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Don't need speed now against queens, they can defend most of it :D
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On June 19 2012 04:06 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 Kontys wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Chenz wrote:On June 19 2012 03:45 Lordanubis wrote:
Every good player out?
Just wtf... Nope, there's 3 great players still left in the tournament. Quoted for truth. You not knowing a player =/= Player not being good. I've been thinking about commenting on this for a while. The thing is, the professional gaming scene is much more laissez-faire in SC2 than BW was. The best players can come out of nowhere, they don't need a license, they don't need to even belong to a licensed team. They do not need to go through years of in-house rankings and training to qualify for their bosses to send them out to play for their team in an actual tournament setting. Great players simply emerge out of nowhere, and it stands above all, as a testament to the collective strength and variety of the region they belong to. They reflect the very real situation, that the Bnet ladder is seriously a place where some of the very best starcraft is played, enabling individual players to improve through simply their own perseverence. It simply happens that the grass roots activity of the player base in SC2 produces amazing players capable of defeating big name professionals on established rich teams. This isn't the first time, and it will most definitely not be the last time this happens at a Dreamhack! Seeing how Starcraft2 is still in an infant stage this is how it should work. Kespa didn't have control of BW in 1999 - early 2000s sc2 isn't even 5 years old yet.
BW was amateur in those days, then first BW pros came out but they had many things to find like way of training etc SC2 had fully aware pros & also coaches by the time it came out.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
Dimaga is preparing for his marriage, so lets cheer for him!
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this dreamhack has been really good reignited my love for sc2
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On June 19 2012 03:59 Champloo wrote:
I actually think Fraer is favored against both Dimaga and Mana. But Mana seems to be on fire today, so I'm hoping for an epic 5 game PvP final with Fraer taking it all :D
All the germans are somehow rooting for fraer, WHAT IS HAPPENING
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 19 2012 04:07 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:07 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:05 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:
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Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately hahahahahahahahahah omg <3 rofl I always have hope Always, never give up my friend. HAHAHA Drazerk just made my day brighter
I don't think I am gonna get an answer 
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Dota 2 finals on the main arena stage if anyone wants to check it out
http://www.dreamhack.tv/?v=13
(first game was played in the dota area for time scheduling reasons, but it was a good one)
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On June 19 2012 04:12 RageCommodore wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 03:59 Champloo wrote:
I actually think Fraer is favored against both Dimaga and Mana. But Mana seems to be on fire today, so I'm hoping for an epic 5 game PvP final with Fraer taking it all :D All the germans are somehow rooting for fraer, WHAT IS HAPPENING
No, I am rooting for MaNa
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