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On June 19 2012 04:06 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:05 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately hahahahahahahahahah omg <3 rofl I always have hope
Always, never give up my friend.
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Imagine if Dreamhack had Extended Series!
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DIIIIMAAAAAAAGAAAAAAA!!!!
GL!
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wow MANA i hoped You get good result here but not expected You will be in the final.
GET OUT OF YOUR SHELL OF ALWAYS SECOND AND WIN THE MOTHERFUCKING THING!!!
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On June 19 2012 04:04 InDaHouse wrote:
Guys, I haven't been able to watch any of the games this weekend, I have only used liquipedia to check the results. So who is this underdog Fraer??? Is he just cheesy or decent for the future?
He is legit, he was GM rank 3 last season in EU, qualified for Spring Arena 2 but couldn't attend. From the games I've seen he is solid all around, capable of thinking on his feat, reacting to weird shit, doing long macro games as well as aggressive play and all-ins. Its probably a pity I didn't get to see all his games this weekend, there where a ton just ongoing.
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On June 19 2012 04:03 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. This LR just stepped up a notch. Pretty impossible to deny analysis from Idra.
Usually he's very biased, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said in that blurb.
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On June 19 2012 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Would this be Mana's first major tournament win if he wins this? I can't think of any big tournaments won by him
Yes. He is always second - DH Winter 2010, Assembly (2011 I think?), ESWC 2011 and I certainly forgot some of his second places.
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someone tell DjWheat it's
ROX KISS, not roxis
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what i want my extended series damnit
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Thank god there's no extended series.
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On June 19 2012 03:49 Ryps wrote:Fun fact; Mana makes more money than his parents at 18y old from playing starcraft  (he said it) Cheer for him !
Was actually thinking about this earlier today, when Na'Vi won the Dota 2 Pre Tournament with 1m$, aint ukraine (not meaning to offend or anything) kinda poor country? correct me if im wrong but since they won they should be like rich like fuck in their country 
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Why is there no Fraer fanclub yet?
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On June 19 2012 04:07 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:06 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:05 MCDayC wrote:On June 19 2012 04:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. While you are here what is your thoughts on Zergs never using contaminate because its been bugging a few people lately hahahahahahahahahah omg <3 rofl I always have hope Always, never give up my friend.
HAHAHA Drazerk just made my day brighter
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On June 19 2012 04:03 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:02 theBALLS wrote:On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. He has spoken. yea that psychologists must be a boss
LOL well played TT1
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On June 19 2012 04:07 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Would this be Mana's first major tournament win if he wins this? I can't think of any big tournaments won by him Yes. He is always second - DH Winter 2010, Assembly (2011 I think?), ESWC 2011 and I certainly forgot some of his second places.
Ok thought so, I felt like such a bad mouz fan
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Gateway opening, aww yeah!
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On June 19 2012 04:02 theBALLS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 04:00 IdrA wrote:On June 19 2012 03:55 Winsti wrote:On June 19 2012 03:48 baldgye wrote:On June 19 2012 03:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 19 2012 03:44 0neder wrote:On June 19 2012 03:43 Jetaap wrote:
Again... an immortal sentry all in >_<... so stupid and boring Can't fault the players for exploiting game design in an attempt to win. Not really exploiting game design... its exploiting Stephano's style. Ling infestor smashes the shit out of sentry immortal all in... Sentry immortal just hard counters Stephano's max roach pushes. idd, its something I've been doing vs every z for a while, becasue nearly every z on ladder does the stephano max on roaches build... and it was really nice seeing the counter to that being done so well and at such a high level There is currently no answer as Zerg to a well executed immortal/sentry thats not really true. its stupidly strong but beatable. the 2nd game stephano cancelled his top left hatch when he didnt have enough larvae to produce lings anyway, and he was on 2 gas so he couldnt make roaches. with the extra larvae of lings or with more spine crawlers he couldve held. he was almost at the tipping point anyway. zergs dont focus on creep spread enough either, which is very important vs the immortal allin. and ling infestor or ling bane+drop are build counters to it, they just have other weaknesses. He has spoken.
It is known.
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Okay, now some guys here have zero idea about european scene, apparently. Mana and Stephano are actually friends, they practice with each other and friendly-tease all the time (e.g. making bets that loser of their showmatch is goin to be his opponent's 'bitch' for one day), so stop with the bm nonesense.
Mana countered the single thing that Stephano does the best - max roach push. Stop whining about immortal/sentry because here goes the list of zerg counters:
- 2 base muta
- ling/infestor
- roach/hydra (yes, hydra is, like, you know... hard counter to this)
- hell, even ling/bling of dimaga
Mass roach is actually also capable of beating this build (drg games, previous stephano games). Stephano lost 1st game due to map architecture and 2nd game because of early pressure/losing lings/roaches at Mana's 2nd (great move to split forces by Mana, look how he perfectly balanced his forces to leave just enough)
Also: Mana + Dimaga are TERRIBLY underrated players. Ask Khaldor, I think he can put some light on how both of these guys are actually amazing.
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On June 19 2012 04:04 kellenr wrote:
Can someone help me with the conversion? I'm clearly an idiot. Does UTC = CST -5 or -6?
I believe it will be at either 5:15 or 6:15 CST. Can someone let me know which is correct?
Time zone offset: UTC - 6 hours
CST is 6 hours behind of Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/ca/cst.html
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