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On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams  On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals.
lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket.
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On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket.
If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket!
I would be very supriced if it didnt happend
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On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend
I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win.
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IMO either Hero or Stephano can win (against eachother), however, don't count out fraer, that kid is sick yo!
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On June 18 2012 15:00 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win.
Stephano has pretty damn solid ZvP though, I dunno, it would be a very close matchup but I'd expect Stephano to have a slight edge.
I think if Stephano can dodge or defeat Nerchio he should have a decent way to the title, but I think he'll lose early on.
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On June 18 2012 15:05 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 15:00 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win. Stephano has pretty damn solid ZvP though, I dunno, it would be a very close matchup but I'd expect Stephano to have a slight edge. I think if Stephano can dodge or defeat Nerchio he should have a decent way to the title, but I think he'll lose early on.
I don't think you've seen Hero play Stephano though. Back when they did practice games Hero beat Stephano in 3 or 4 straight macro games and finally Stephano just ended up Idra GGing in a game and they didn't play any more. This was of course a bit of time ago but Stephano's style has remained rather stagnant while Hero has improved a great deal since then. Hero has probably top 3 PvZ in the world and I think the only zerg that should be able to take him down in a series is DRG atm. Hero's mothership and warp prism play is perfect against Stephano and Hero's control just ends up being too much.
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On June 18 2012 15:11 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 15:05 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 15:00 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win. Stephano has pretty damn solid ZvP though, I dunno, it would be a very close matchup but I'd expect Stephano to have a slight edge. I think if Stephano can dodge or defeat Nerchio he should have a decent way to the title, but I think he'll lose early on. I don't think you've seen Hero play Stephano though. Back when they did practice games Hero beat Stephano in 3 or 4 straight macro games and finally Stephano just ended up Idra GGing in a game and they didn't play any more. This was of course a bit of time ago but Stephano's style has remained rather stagnant while Hero has improved a great deal since then. Hero has probably top 3 PvZ in the world and I think the only zerg that should be able to take him down in a series is DRG atm. Hero's mothership and warp prism play is perfect against Stephano and Hero's control just ends up being too much.
To add onto this, find Hero vs Stephano on Metropolis in the EGMC and watch that to get an idea of what Hero can do to him.
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On June 18 2012 15:12 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 15:11 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 15:05 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 15:00 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win. Stephano has pretty damn solid ZvP though, I dunno, it would be a very close matchup but I'd expect Stephano to have a slight edge. I think if Stephano can dodge or defeat Nerchio he should have a decent way to the title, but I think he'll lose early on. I don't think you've seen Hero play Stephano though. Back when they did practice games Hero beat Stephano in 3 or 4 straight macro games and finally Stephano just ended up Idra GGing in a game and they didn't play any more. This was of course a bit of time ago but Stephano's style has remained rather stagnant while Hero has improved a great deal since then. Hero has probably top 3 PvZ in the world and I think the only zerg that should be able to take him down in a series is DRG atm. Hero's mothership and warp prism play is perfect against Stephano and Hero's control just ends up being too much. To add onto this, find Hero vs Stephano on Metropolis in the EGMC and watch that to get an idea of what Hero can do to him.
Oh I actually completely forgot about those games. xD Yes that was indeed amazing. I was trying to remember if they played officially anytime recently but couldn't of anything.
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dont get ahead of yourself. hero can lose to taeja before that even happens. they probably practice with each other and will play mindgames
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On June 18 2012 15:24 GreyKnight wrote:
dont get ahead of yourself. hero can lose to taeja before that even happens. they probably practice with each other and will play mindgames
Very true, in fact almost every time Hero and Taeja met on ladder while streaming Taeja would win...so I'm not too confident in Hero taking that.
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nice bracket, roxkisFRAER will be in top 4 of Dreamhack
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Brat OK will beat Nericho så Stephano is fine
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i wasnt at home in the weekend and i couldnt watch. The group results say to me I missed quite a lot. Hope i'll be able to watch at least the last phase.
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On June 18 2012 15:00 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 14:53 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket. If Nerchio beats Stephano like everyone expects then I think Hero gonna win it all, even though Hero lost to Nerchio in HSC 3. If Stephano actually beats Nerchio then I think Stephano gonna win it all. Ofcourse Stephano and Nerchio have to beat Keen and Bratok but I dont really see niether of the zergs losing but ofcourse it can happend. One thing is for surden the winner of Dreamhack will come from this side of the bracket! I would be very supriced if it didnt happend I don't think there is any chance that Stephano can beat Hero if Hero is playing well. Hero knows how to play against Stephano and knows just what to do in macro games against him so Stephano would have to cheese Hero out if he wanted to win.
I dont see hero comming out ahead vs Stephano. I think its gonna be parting/squirtle all over again. But we will see:D thats whats makes starcraft 2 great you never know
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dreamhack hurts my eyes. some matchups are just horrendously onesided >.> but its allcabout the money i guess
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On June 18 2012 16:05 ThePlayer33 wrote:
dreamhack hurts my eyes. some matchups are just horrendously onesided >.> but its allcabout the money i guess
early brackets are usually like that in all tournaments
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I don't mind at all if the organizers "design" the seeds so we get the most interesting matches/matchups/players/stories&drama. Actually I hope they do, so we get the most fun!
What would have happened if the seeding was completely random from the first group stage and we would have groups with great players that would be eliminated and groups with undeserving players advancing? It would be bad...
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On June 18 2012 14:37 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 13:55 Ace.Xile wrote:On June 18 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:On June 18 2012 13:50 quannguyen wrote:Seriously wtf? Teamkill for HerO AGAIN? And this time it's Taeja of all people. Man I think Liquid's luck in Dreamhack is the worst of all teams On the flipside, winner of that series seems likely to take the tournament, so it could be pretty good for liquid overall I'd say they'd have a chance if it weren't for the almost certainty that they will have to face stephano, and if they somehow manage to beat him, then likely naniwa in the finals. lol @ overrating those 2. Hero can have his way with either of those guys with ease. If Taeja is playing well then he would certainly beat them also. Anyway most people don't think Stephano will even get out of the RO8 it seems and if Keen is on his game he won't even get through 1 round. And Naniwa will fall to some zerg (ANY of them) over on his side of the bracket.
You've already got the excuses piled up don't you. Anytime Stephano wins vs a top Korean it's just because they played really bad People overrate stephano, but you, like Aeroplaneoverthesea just hate foreign players 
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I have no idea, but i will predict a Keen vs Dimaga final.
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My Guesses for today:
M|Stephano [2 : 1] MyM.MvP.Keen
Acer.Nerchio [2 : 0] ROX.KIS.BratOK
Liquid'HerO [2 : 1] Liquid'Taeja
Mouz.MaNa [1 : 2] Ai.Cytoplasm
Quantic.NaNiWa [2 : 0] ROX.KIS.sLivko
mTw.Dimaga [2 : 0] Fightline'Protosser
Quantic.SaSe [1 : 2] Liquid'ret
ROX.KIS.fraer [1 : 2] mCon.Harstem
M|Stephano [1 : 2] Acer.Nerchio
Liquid'HerO [2 : 0] Ai.Cytoplasm
Quantic.NaNiWa [2:1] mTw.Dimaga
Liquid'ret [2 : 0] mCon.Harstem
Liquid'HerO [2 : 1] Acer.Nerchio
Quantic.NaNiWa [1 : 2] Liquid'ret
Liquid'HerO [2 : 3] Liquid'ret
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EPT
