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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On June 12 2012 20:03 andropopp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:59 Hassybaby wrote:On June 12 2012 19:58 andropopp wrote:
i wont call imba just yet because maybe theres some messiah build that some terran will find in the next couple weeks that deals with zerg completely and brings it into a even lategame
what irks me about the queen is its 2food and it actually KILLS 2stim/combat shield marines or a zealot or a stalker. In fact, queens FOOD FOR FOOD i believe can kill EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME (carrier, battlecruiser, roach, hydra, broodlord, collossi, banshee, voidray, hellion, tank, marauder)
the only units i think queens cannot beat is thor, ultralisk, and battlecruiser maybe (due to the high armor and health, but im not sure queens might almost win). and thats all WITHOUT transfuse being used. So queens are so powerful and PLUS they have transfuse which is like 1click for a instant massive heal instantly making another queen.... On paper queens do seem ultra powerful
MKP vs DRG at MLG showed that pretty much if the terran tries to rev his engine and power out with the zerg and compete in the lategame he gets toasted. MKP did beat Stephano with a pure marine marauder medivac army but i dont think that can be the answer it cant be stephano was just outmicro'ed he usually seems to lose steam at the end of tournaments and plenty engagement stephano could have won but didnt get the right fungals MKP was outmicro'ing but i think a zerg should be able to stop that from happening and get off good fungals and normally win so i dont think MMM is the true answer MKP was just insane that game and made it work
no i think theres another answer out there. or i hope there is. some messiah build will hopefully arrive and bring terran back into shape.... or at least i hope that will happen
So why doesn't everyone mass queen? queens beat marines but queens lose to medivac supported marine/marauder, thors, massed collossi, or ultralisks so thats why people dont mass queens
So what you're saying is...queens are great against lower numbers of units, but when tech gets back up they're not so good
Like the defensive unit they are, and as Blizzard intended
Huh.....
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its zvp so i wouldn't say nestea is actually going to lose..unless creator goes all-in of course
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He could run away from the lings no need to try to kite them...
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opterown
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If he planted the hatch further away, he might've been able to get the creep up, and unremoveable before observers. Then he could make the spinecrawlers and spinecrawler-jump/push. This can work, but it got scouted and came too late to work.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
On June 12 2012 20:04 drbrown wrote:
the thing is that must've worked in practice
My condolences to YongHwa and Seed 
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On June 12 2012 20:04 Tyrant0 wrote:Nestea failed but the damage is already done. It's gonna be the only build anyone does on antiga for the next week.
Just FFE at the ramp, ends any chance of that happening.
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United Kingdom12023 Posts
What does Nestea's name actually appear as in the top corner? I can't even read what that says it's too blurry.
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On June 12 2012 20:05 Tarrot wrote:
If he planted the hatch further away, he might've been able to get the creep up, and unremoveable before observers. Then he could make the spinecrawlers and spinecrawler-jump/push. This can work, but it got scouted and came too late to work.
Can't, without vision of the high ground it's useless
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I think it could have worked if Nestea put it a little further out and not in front of the units.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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You'd think Nestea would have timed that rush out so it got there before any units from Creator came out, since it seemed that as soon as it was spotted it would be stopped by 2x zealots and stalkers. Did creator get a really early gate or something or was nestea just way off?
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On June 12 2012 20:05 Qikz wrote:
What does Nestea's name actually appear as in the top corner? I can't even read what that says it's too blurry.
I believe LG-IM Nestea
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On June 12 2012 20:04 Tyrant0 wrote:Nestea failed but the damage is already done. It's gonna be the only build anyone does on antiga for the next week.
It only works vs FFE where the protoss uses Nexus as a part of the wall in though. So just wall off at ramp 
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On June 12 2012 20:05 Qikz wrote:
What does Nestea's name actually appear as in the top corner? I can't even read what that says it's too blurry.
LG-IMNESTEA
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On June 12 2012 20:05 Qikz wrote:
What does Nestea's name actually appear as in the top corner? I can't even read what that says it's too blurry.
LG-IMNesTea
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On June 12 2012 20:05 rothsbury wrote:
You'd think Nestea would have timed that rush out so it got there before any units from Creator came out, since it seemed that as soon as it was spotted it would be stopped by 2x zealots and stalkers. Did creator get a really early gate or something or was nestea just way off?
Creator's gate was fucking early.
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Yeesh I've seen Nestea get toasted on his stream after a ballsy move like that (obv not that exactly) and I'm getting a similar vibe. He's pretty far back I think.
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United States97276 Posts
Creator is sitting in a great position :D
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EPT
