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On June 10 2012 21:28 Chicken Chaser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 21:22 emis wrote:On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something. That's not hard. Lol, really? Even after 20 minutes in-game you think it's not hard to maintain near perfect macro? A lot of pros spike up in cash, and much lesser players frequently have this problem too with macro when their attention is fixated on moving around their armies late-game
It's terran, you can quoue up units. Keeping minerals and gas low isn't always the best with zerg, since you can't really do anything with 3 mutas or a single infestor, so you stockpile it and once you have the tech you spend it.
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omg! I got teary eyed when they introduced the Kaspa players! <3
So amazing!!
This event is incredible!!!
The games have been awesome!!
The show is tremendous! Everyone is doing a great great job in any way!!!
Loved the videos from HotS with Day and Rob !! Only thing that is annoying that I cannot wait to play it no more!! It seems like a huge improvement to an already incredible game! !!!
So much awesomeness <3
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On June 10 2012 21:39 Klaas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 21:28 Chicken Chaser wrote:On June 10 2012 21:22 emis wrote:On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something. That's not hard. Lol, really? Even after 20 minutes in-game you think it's not hard to maintain near perfect macro? A lot of pros spike up in cash, and much lesser players frequently have this problem too with macro when their attention is fixated on moving around their armies late-game It's terran, you can quoue up units. Keeping minerals and gas low isn't always the best with zerg, since you can't really do anything with 3 mutas or a single infestor, so you stockpile it and once you have the tech you spend it.
You are funny/
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On June 10 2012 17:21 sharky246 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:16 beat farm wrote:On June 10 2012 17:16 ssg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:15 beat farm wrote:On June 10 2012 17:13 Mike15xp wrote:On June 10 2012 17:11 ShadeR wrote:
All the people saying it's 1am there... the crowd is tired... lol.... its finals week for many schools too so many of us couldn't attend you got to be kidding me. most college students got out a month ago in the states. high school still in session though for many. really. highschools around my area got out about 2-3 weeks ago. well its 3 am time to go to bed and attempt to get up for church in the morning. So is this an atheist church (if there is such thing), because dayum, a religious TLer is like finding snow in summer.
6 hours of sleep and im up for church as well. Go religion!
Anyhow, flashp has the right mindset to be a good terran, and is studying the best terrans. He will probably be the best terran from pro broodwar
Marineking is gonna have to lose in the finals
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On June 10 2012 21:14 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 21:06 marcesr wrote:On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts. After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad. MLG is all about the koreans IMO. Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that: more foreigners left -> more viewers; more koreans -> higher level competition. To an extent. I doubt an MLG only consistent of foreigners would have more viewers than a good mix of the best Koreans and a bunch of the best foreigners.
I don't agree there. Western players getting schooled by noname korean X isn't much fun. Purist, top level play fans can just watch GSL. Imagine the world of tennis being dominated by solely Americans, you can bet your ass that Europeans and the like would lose interest. That's how SC2 is right now. Another example would be the Champions League in football. Only european teams. Maybe a Brazillian team is a lot better, but they simply don't get invited since it's regional.
Idra, while a mediocre player and a douche had to fight his way through countless unbroadcasted matches because the pools are 95% Korean. I can assure you more people would be watching if Idra was playing on the main stage.
The best scenario would be that there is a limit of the amount of Koreans invited. And I'm purely talking from a viewers perspective here. If it's fair is a whole other story.
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The games with BW pros weren't good. Neither the cast was, they were probably too excited to see them play.
Players just need more time to show top games, it was excepted. Hopefuly they will come up with something new.
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Who is suppy? He beat InControl,Tails,Select,Killer and Bling.That's pretty good.
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On June 10 2012 21:50 Youtakenocandle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 21:14 nihlon wrote:On June 10 2012 21:06 marcesr wrote:On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts. After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad. MLG is all about the koreans IMO. Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that: more foreigners left -> more viewers; more koreans -> higher level competition. To an extent. I doubt an MLG only consistent of foreigners would have more viewers than a good mix of the best Koreans and a bunch of the best foreigners. I don't agree there. Western players getting schooled by noname korean X isn't much fun. Purist, top level play fans can just watch GSL. Imagine the world of tennis being dominated by solely Americans, you can bet your ass that Europeans and the like would lose interest. That's how SC2 is right now. Another example would be the Champions League in football. Only european teams. Maybe a Brazillian team is a lot better, but they simply don't get invited since it's regional. Idra, while a mediocre player and a douche had to fight his way through countless unbroadcasted matches because the pools are 95% Korean. I can assure you more people would be watching if Idra was playing on the main stage. The best scenario would be that there is a limit of the amount of Koreans invited. And I'm purely talking from a viewers perspective here. If it's fair is a whole other story.
I feel like this doesn't need saying, but I'll say it: Idra wouldnt get more viewers than marineking, or stephano. Would more people be watching just for idra? Maybe his stream followers.
This is a weird branch off from opinions. I mainly watch GSL and normally watch MLGs, dreamhacks, and the like. Big tournaments.
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The following has resulted from this:
1: Tournament wins without many koreans, top tier koreans, or any koreans are disvalued in my mind.
2: I pretty much know every korean anyway. When you say "western players getting schooled by no name korean X" it's more like oh xxxxxx who fell out of code a or plays in gstl is climbing up the ladder and this foreigner is his next task.
3: the "final boss" scenario. Basically, when good foreigner like stephano faces koreans or even super koreans like marineking, its like watching someone play mario trying to beat bowser, but there arent any retries or extra lives. It's epic, it's trial by fire. This really doesnt happen for me in GSL, unless if an up and comer is facing like parting or marineking or mvp when he decides to be good.
Basically, these reasons along with the kespa deal MLG made and the good relations with GSL means we will never have korean segregation.
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Any unbiased person that can tell me around what level Flash play was?
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Anyone have a time for the Stephano v MKP games?
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On June 10 2012 22:01 Lillpapps wrote:
Any unbiased person that can tell me around what level Flash play was?
Very, very good. For the time he has been playing that is. Give him 2-3 months and he will be a serious contender to take code A home.
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Are the VODs for Kespa tournament not available? I try to watch Leta vs Jaedong, but I get a blue screen saying no stream. Works for Red stream though. So is it impossible to watch Jaedong vs Leta? Y_Y
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On June 10 2012 22:05 SnowK wrote:
Anyone have a time for the Stephano v MKP games?
Game 1 starts at 9:13
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On June 10 2012 21:50 Youtakenocandle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 21:14 nihlon wrote:On June 10 2012 21:06 marcesr wrote:On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts. After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad. MLG is all about the koreans IMO. Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that: more foreigners left -> more viewers; more koreans -> higher level competition. To an extent. I doubt an MLG only consistent of foreigners would have more viewers than a good mix of the best Koreans and a bunch of the best foreigners. I don't agree there. Western players getting schooled by noname korean X isn't much fun. Purist, top level play fans can just watch GSL. Imagine the world of tennis being dominated by solely Americans, you can bet your ass that Europeans and the like would lose interest. That's how SC2 is right now. Another example would be the Champions League in football. Only european teams. Maybe a Brazillian team is a lot better, but they simply don't get invited since it's regional. Idra, while a mediocre player and a douche had to fight his way through countless unbroadcasted matches because the pools are 95% Korean. I can assure you more people would be watching if Idra was playing on the main stage. The best scenario would be that there is a limit of the amount of Koreans invited. And I'm purely talking from a viewers perspective here. If it's fair is a whole other story.
They don't get invited. They qualify like everyone else through the arenas. And the aren qualification has already a geograhical element (16 NA , 16 EU , 16 KO).
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Are there korean netizen coming up? I would love to see that
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On June 10 2012 22:14 TheDroneNextDoor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 22:05 SnowK wrote:
Anyone have a time for the Stephano v MKP games? Game 1 starts at 9:13
link to the stream?
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Flash is coming for you, SC2.
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Is there anyway to re-watch the Kespa games?
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On June 10 2012 21:59 DifuntO wrote:
Who is suppy? He beat InControl,Tails,Select,Killer and Bling.That's pretty good.
A Superior Wolf.
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EPT
