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Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
June 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#11941
holy shit, jaedong english so good
asdfg
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
June 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#11942
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 11:51:07
June 10 2012 11:50 GMT
#11943
Apparently Sundance has had some sort of reputation for guessing correct MLG winners.
In interview he did with slasher he also predicted Flash to win Kespa, as well as MC to win this MLG.
Certainly think that's an interesting prediction with MC, but it might be the new Sundance Blessing.
(This was in gamespot interview with slasher)
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
June 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#11944
On June 10 2012 20:50 MrCash wrote:
Apparently Sundance has had some sort of reputation for guessing correct MLG winners.
In interview he did with slasher he also predicted Flash to win Kespa, as well as MC to win this MLG.
Certainly think that's an interesting prediction with MC, but it might be the new Sundance Blessing.
(This was in gamespot interview with slasher)

Betting on Flash to win something is like, you know, betting on the favourite.

j/k I didn't expect Flash to have improved so much when he still has an OSL to win.
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 12:02:21
June 10 2012 12:01 GMT
#11945
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.
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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
June 10 2012 12:06 GMT
#11946
On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.


Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that:
more foreigners left -> more viewers;
more koreans -> higher level competition.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#11947
Any vods Idra vs Spades?
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
June 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#11948
Flash looking so strong, its scary
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#11949
On June 10 2012 21:06 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.


Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that:
more foreigners left -> more viewers;
more koreans -> higher level competition.

To an extent. I doubt an MLG only consistent of foreigners would have more viewers than a good mix of the best Koreans and a bunch of the best foreigners.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#11950
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
June 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#11951
On June 10 2012 20:50 MrCash wrote:
Apparently Sundance has had some sort of reputation for guessing correct MLG winners.
In interview he did with slasher he also predicted Flash to win Kespa, as well as MC to win this MLG.
Certainly think that's an interesting prediction with MC, but it might be the new Sundance Blessing.
(This was in gamespot interview with slasher)


Well to win the tournament MC would have to beat MKP, and I just don´t see that happening,.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
June 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#11952
On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.


That's not hard.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#11953
On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.


Im trying to, but the restream doesnt work for me for POV
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#11954
On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.

As much as people argue at what his skill level are at in sc2 right now, it is for sure it won't be his mechanics that will hold him back.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#11955
On June 10 2012 21:14 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 21:06 marcesr wrote:
On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.


Well Huk (in the HotBig interview) and others pointed out that:
more foreigners left -> more viewers;
more koreans -> higher level competition.

To an extent. I doubt an MLG only consistent of foreigners would have more viewers than a good mix of the best Koreans and a bunch of the best foreigners.

Agreed, the Foriegner vs Korean storyline is one the most enduring things in SC2. I feel like this MLG went too far in the Korean direction, but some tournaments like Dreamhack don't do enough to bring Korean's in, and it hurst their legitimacy. I say this as though the tournaments have much control over it, with the openbrackets and the fact that all the Koreans have come from the Arena, it feels like Koreans have just chosen MLG to be their tournament.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#11956
On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.



I got to agree , a the end of the day its the Koreans are simply the better players.

I watch Premership football in England and the top flight is dominated by Foreign players. They simply have better skill, and technique. With out them i wouldnt even turn on the TV to watch them. Its a fact of life

Class floats to the top, as has and always will. Westerns for the most part are overated to the extreme. There is currently about 3 or 4 players from Europe that can actually win a best or 5 from a Korean players.

People wont pay to watch substandard players its a simple as that.
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
June 10 2012 12:28 GMT
#11957
On June 10 2012 21:22 emis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.


That's not hard.


I love how you're trying to take away from the most talented RTS gamer the world has seen so far.
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 10 2012 12:28 GMT
#11958
On June 10 2012 21:22 emis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 21:18 Chicken Chaser wrote:
You guys should watch the Flash POV cam... it's absolutely ridiculous how good his mechanics are.. he literally keeps his money under 150-200 at all times. Gas never goes over 300 (i usually see it at double digits) and minerals are always being spent for something.


That's not hard.


Lol, really? Even after 20 minutes in-game you think it's not hard to maintain near perfect macro? A lot of pros spike up in cash, and much lesser players frequently have this problem too with macro when their attention is fixated on moving around their armies late-game
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
June 10 2012 12:29 GMT
#11959
Flash looks impressive but let's not go overboard. I'll wait until he plays someone who's actually good to great at SC2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
June 10 2012 12:31 GMT
#11960
On June 10 2012 21:01 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 20:48 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Looking at these brackets. I wonder, would the viewercounts be higher if Koreans weren't at MLG? Or at least limited? Personally everytime I see barely any western players are left my interest just drops like a brick. I doubt I'm alone in that. In the end I'm sure MLG wants as high as possible viewercounts.

After seeing countless hyped foreigners get rocked in the Code A qualifiers I stopped caring about the foreign scene. You have no credibility IMO if you don't make it into Code A or have a winning record versus Code A players that are playing abroad.

MLG is all about the koreans IMO.


i disagree actually. For every foreigner who went to code a there are koreans that highly underperform in MLG style tournaments.

In code A/Code S it's a methodical game by game approach. For MLG it's a survival game. Most westerners practice for the second, with little experience in the first. If you notice, the foreigners that had succeeded in korea were the more methodical and mechanically inclined players.
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