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[SPL] KT vs STX Soul

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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 13:54:22
June 03 2012 03:16 GMT
#1
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Sunday, Jun 03 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(followed by Samsung KHAN vs. SK Telecom T1)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011-2012_Proleague_Season_2/Round_1



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eSportsTV: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV
Korean restream: http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrt
English restream:



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<Neo Ground Zero>
<Neo Jade>
<New Sniper Ridge>

<Ohana>
<Entombed Valley>
<Cloud Kingdom>

<Antiga Shipyard>



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+ Show Spoiler [Eligibility] +
(P)Wooki, (P)Stats, (Z)HoeJJa, (Z)Action, (T)BarrackS, (P)Shuttle, (Z)hyvaa, (P)mini, (Z)Modesty and (Z)Calm must play SC2
(Z)Crazy-Hydra, (T)Flash, (P)Lizzy, (Z)Acacia, (P)Dear, (T)Last, (P)Trap, (T)Bogus and (T)Classic must play BW.
Anyone from the starting 6 can play in the Ace match (this will not affect what game they can play in the next match).


+ Show Spoiler [Lineup] +

(P)Lizzy <Neo Ground Zero> (P)Trap
(T)Flash <Neo Jade> (P)Dear
(Z)Crazy-Hydra <New Sniper Ridge> (T)Classic



(P)Wooki <Ohana> (Z)hyvaa
(Z)HoeJJa <Entombed Valley> (P)mini
(P)Stats <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Shuttle



+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +
<Antiga Shipyard>






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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +

+ Show Spoiler [Neo Ground Zero] +
(P)Lizzy <Neo Ground Zero> (P)Trap

+ Show Spoiler [Neo Jade] +
(T)Flash <Neo Jade> (P)Dear

+ Show Spoiler [New Sniper Ridge] +
(Z)Crazy-Hydra <New Sniper Ridge> (T)Classic




+ Show Spoiler [Ohana] +
(P)Wooki <Ohana> (Z)hyvaa

+ Show Spoiler [Entombed Valley] +
(Z)HoeJJa <Entombed Valley> (P)mini

+ Show Spoiler [Cloud Kingdom] +
(P)Stats <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Shuttle




+ Show Spoiler [Antiga Shipyard] +
<Antiga Shipyard>




+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

(P)Lizzy <Neo Ground Zero> (P)Trap
(T)Flash <Neo Jade> (P)Dear
(Z)Crazy-Hydra <New Sniper Ridge> (T)Classic



(P)Wooki <Ohana> (Z)hyvaa
(Z)HoeJJa <Entombed Valley> (P)mini
(P)Stats <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Shuttle



<Antiga Shipyard>



KT wins 2-0 (4-1)!





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+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Neo Ground Zero] +
Poll: Recommend Set 1: Neo Ground Zero?

No (10)
 
83%

Yes (2)
 
17%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 1: Neo Ground Zero?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Neo Jade] +
Poll: Recommend Set 2: Neo Jade?

Yes (7)
 
54%

No (4)
 
31%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 2: Neo Jade?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [New Sniper Ridge] +
Poll: Recommend Set 3: New Sniper Ridge?

Yes (5)
 
83%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 3: New Sniper Ridge?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No







+ Show Spoiler [Ohana] +
Poll: Recommend Set 4: Ohana?

No (6)
 
67%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

Yes (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 4: Ohana?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Entombed Valley] +
Poll: Recommend Set 5: Entombed Valley?

Yes (4)
 
44%

If you have time (3)
 
33%

No (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 5: Entombed Valley?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



+ Show Spoiler [Cloud Kingdom] +
Poll: Recommend Set 6: Cloud Kingdom?

No (3)
 
50%

If you have time (2)
 
33%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 6: Cloud Kingdom?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No






+ Show Spoiler [Antiga Shipyard] +
Poll: Recommend Set 7: Antiga Shipyard?

Yes (4)
 
67%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

No (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 7: Antiga Shipyard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No








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+ Show Spoiler [Live Reports] +

Neo Ground Zero
Neo Jade
Neo Sniper Ridge



Ohana
Entombed Valley
Cloud Kingdom



Antiga Shipyard

rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2
lizzy so good at bw
The Notorious Winkles
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#3
Thanks Opterown. This thing looks so challenging >_<

Poll: Recommend Set 1: Neo Ground Zero?

No (10)
 
83%

Yes (2)
 
17%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 1: Neo Ground Zero?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#4
woooo! :D thanks~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
June 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#5
I don't think you can call set 1 an actual set, so didn't vote in the poll here.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
June 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#6
I think all polls that involve Lizzy playing BW should just have these 3 options:

lol
No
Fuck no
Writer:o
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 03:20 GMT
#7
I feel bad for Lizzy...but why the hell would you play him first >_<
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
June 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#8
On June 03 2012 12:19 Kiett wrote:
I think all polls that involve Lizzy playing BW should just have these 3 options:

lol
No
Fuck no


I second this so hard, I can only hope he somehow ends up in the lol category the most often.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 03 2012 03:28 GMT
#9
Woot, I'm a little bit to late but thank Talionis for making a thread!!!
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 03 2012 03:28 GMT
#10
Can someone elaborate on Lizzy? I don't follow BW. Is he known for being bad or something?
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 03 2012 03:29 GMT
#11
On June 03 2012 12:28 HolyArrow wrote:
Can someone elaborate on Lizzy? I don't follow BW. Is he known for being bad or something?


He's kinda a SC2 specialist for KT so he's pretty much suck in BW really really hard.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#12
On June 03 2012 12:28 HolyArrow wrote:
Can someone elaborate on Lizzy? I don't follow BW. Is he known for being bad or something?

known for being good at sc2, but horrible at bw. since players have to alternate, every other week is full of crap from lizzy hahaha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
June 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#13
On June 03 2012 12:28 HolyArrow wrote:
Can someone elaborate on Lizzy? I don't follow BW. Is he known for being bad or something?


he's known for never playing a broadcasted game until this season. he's fairly obviously like a 98-2 sc2:bw ratio.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
NippIeLuv
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada13 Posts
June 03 2012 03:32 GMT
#14
I'm using the HD link in VLC, and it lags massive amounts/closes sometimes. Is there any way to make it pre-buffer the stream when it lags so even if it puts me behind, at least it still plays and doesn't skip? My internet should not be the problem.. Any way that I can use the GOM player, since that thing seems to deal with lag just fine?
MULE XING
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 03 2012 03:32 GMT
#15
Oh dear. Vultures in your base, killin your d00ds
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
June 03 2012 03:33 GMT
#16
how does that even happen
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 03 2012 03:35 GMT
#17
Black craven magic from the dark continent or possibly the thing Sayle said about the pylons not being flush against the edge due to the map architecture.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 03:38 GMT
#18
Poor Dear

Poll: Recommend Set 2: Neo Jade?

Yes (7)
 
54%

No (4)
 
31%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 2: Neo Jade?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
June 03 2012 03:39 GMT
#19
Okay so 1 more bw match then 4 sc2 matches?
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 03:40:21
June 03 2012 03:39 GMT
#20
It depends on who wins the BW set. If the same team wins the SCII bo3, there would only be 2 or 3 and no ace match.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 03:39 GMT
#21
On June 03 2012 12:39 jcroisdale wrote:
Okay so 1 more bw match then 4 sc2 matches?


2-4 sc2 matches, depending on how the games go.
MMA: The true King of Wings
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 03:41:16
June 03 2012 03:41 GMT
#22
On June 03 2012 12:30 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:28 HolyArrow wrote:
Can someone elaborate on Lizzy? I don't follow BW. Is he known for being bad or something?


he's known for never playing a broadcasted game until this season. he's fairly obviously like a 100-0 sc2:bw ratio.


fixed
The Notorious Winkles
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 03 2012 03:41 GMT
#23
On June 03 2012 12:32 NippIeLuv wrote:
I'm using the HD link in VLC, and it lags massive amounts/closes sometimes. Is there any way to make it pre-buffer the stream when it lags so even if it puts me behind, at least it still plays and doesn't skip? My internet should not be the problem.. Any way that I can use the GOM player, since that thing seems to deal with lag just fine?

tick more options where you input the address in, there should be a spot where you can change from the default of 1200ms to 10,000ms or something
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
June 03 2012 03:41 GMT
#24
On June 03 2012 12:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:39 jcroisdale wrote:
Okay so 1 more bw match then 4 sc2 matches?


2-4 sc2 matches, depending on how the games go.


Okay so its a bo7. I still do not understand the lack of commentating for this event.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
June 03 2012 03:43 GMT
#25
On June 03 2012 12:41 jcroisdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 03 2012 12:39 jcroisdale wrote:
Okay so 1 more bw match then 4 sc2 matches?


2-4 sc2 matches, depending on how the games go.


Okay so its a bo7. I still do not understand the lack of commentating for this event.

It's two Bo3s. If they split the Bo3s, then there's a single SC2 ace match.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 03:45 GMT
#26
On June 03 2012 12:41 jcroisdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 03 2012 12:39 jcroisdale wrote:
Okay so 1 more bw match then 4 sc2 matches?


2-4 sc2 matches, depending on how the games go.


Okay so its a bo7. I still do not understand the lack of commentating for this event.


2 Bo3 + 1 potential Ac2 match, one Bo3 in BW and the other in SC2.

If a team wins the BW Bo3 and 2-0's the SC2, then only 2 SC2 games. If each team takes a Bo3 each, then there is one extra SC2 ace match.
MMA: The true King of Wings
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 03 2012 03:47 GMT
#27
Congrats to flash for his 400th win!
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
June 03 2012 03:48 GMT
#28
Flash wins 400 games and we get a TvZ to watch!
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 03:49 GMT
#29
On June 03 2012 12:48 Grobnik wrote:
Flash wins 400 games and we get a TvZ to watch!


I wish we could watch a TvZ in SC2 Proleague.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 03 2012 03:49 GMT
#30
Why you steal JD's song brah.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 03:52 GMT
#31
These girls aren't hiding their faces. What is this madness?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 03 2012 03:53 GMT
#32
On June 03 2012 12:49 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:48 Grobnik wrote:
Flash wins 400 games and we get a TvZ to watch!


I wish we could watch a TvZ in SC2 Proleague.


In SC2 PvProleague you mean?
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 03:56 GMT
#33
On June 03 2012 12:53 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:49 cablesc wrote:
On June 03 2012 12:48 Grobnik wrote:
Flash wins 400 games and we get a TvZ to watch!


I wish we could watch a TvZ in SC2 Proleague.


In SC2 PvProleague you mean?


Yes. Unfortunately, that's what I meant.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 04:10:04
June 03 2012 04:07 GMT
#34
Crazy-hydra is floating some serious amount of cash.

It's all nearly gone o_o. Mass ultras inc?
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
June 03 2012 04:10 GMT
#35
not enough vessels from classic
PattyJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States153 Posts
June 03 2012 04:12 GMT
#36
why cant my lings and ultras be this good
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:14 GMT
#37
CH is so good

Poll: Recommend Set 3: New Sniper Ridge?

Yes (5)
 
83%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 3: New Sniper Ridge?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 04:14 GMT
#38
On June 03 2012 13:12 PattyJ wrote:
why cant my lings and ultras be this good


No imba dark swarm.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:16 GMT
#39
Please not Mini vs Stats please.

Wonder how many PvPs are we going to get this time.
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
June 03 2012 04:17 GMT
#40
To be honest Sayle would have to be the only caster i thought was annoying. I don't know why, i know he works hard but i just can't stand his casting. I really hope someone like Orb starts casting these SPL's or even Khaldor or Wolf.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 04:19 GMT
#41
On June 03 2012 13:14 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:12 PattyJ wrote:
why cant my lings and ultras be this good


No imba dark swarm.


Fungals are pretty imba. See Yugioh vs MKP in Code A last year.

Ultra/Ling cleaning shit up with infestor support.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
MaleficOR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States315 Posts
June 03 2012 04:19 GMT
#42
Holy did u see that little ling? He had some crazy attack speed goin on, he was taking down that CC all by himself. TakTakTakTakTakTakTak!!
Its ihdra, like the beginning of idiot- IdrA
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
June 03 2012 04:20 GMT
#43
On June 03 2012 13:16 Talionis wrote:
Please not Mini vs Stats please.

Wonder how many PvPs are we going to get this time.


Judging by the eligible players, I get a bad feeling at least two.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:23 GMT
#44
First game is Wooki vs hyvaa apparently. A PvZ.
ryanymoon
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada38 Posts
June 03 2012 04:25 GMT
#45
OH PvZ This time!
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 04:25 GMT
#46
At this point PvZ is a victory in PvProleague.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 03 2012 04:29 GMT
#47
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 03 2012 04:32 GMT
#48
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 04:38 GMT
#49
Oh Hatch block. Life messed up Crank doing this in the GSTL.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 03 2012 04:39 GMT
#50
On June 03 2012 13:38 cablesc wrote:
Oh Hatch block. Life messed up Crank doing this in the GSTL.


When was this..I've never seen this before >.>
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
June 03 2012 04:39 GMT
#51
So much cock-blocking tonight. I mean, blocking.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:40 GMT
#52
Heh, cute probe/broodling dance
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
June 03 2012 04:41 GMT
#53
Sick zealot control.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
June 03 2012 04:42 GMT
#54
Excellent zealot ling micro. Expectedly bad builds; expectedly good micro from the BW pros.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 04:42 GMT
#55
On June 03 2012 13:39 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:38 cablesc wrote:
Oh Hatch block. Life messed up Crank doing this in the GSTL.


When was this..I've never seen this before >.>


This happened last week in the GSTL. Slayers vs Zenex.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 03 2012 04:49 GMT
#56
Protoss just to easy to play
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
June 03 2012 04:49 GMT
#57
That was a really crisp build. Well executed IMO
MaleficOR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States315 Posts
June 03 2012 04:49 GMT
#58
Does he not know the corruptors can hit the colossus?
Its ihdra, like the beginning of idiot- IdrA
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:50 GMT
#59
Oh look, Protoss wins again >_>

Poll: Recommend Set 4: Ohana?

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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
June 03 2012 04:50 GMT
#60
Protoss is so boring to watch.

One attack move and the game is over.
#1 Terran hater
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 03 2012 04:52 GMT
#61
Watching BW pros is quite boring right now.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
June 03 2012 04:54 GMT
#62
None of the BW pros know wtf to do against Protoss
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 04:56:25
June 03 2012 04:54 GMT
#63
Protoss is currently 13-6 vs. Terran and Zerg in this Hybrid Proleague.

EDIT: Specifically, 7-2 PvT and 6-4 PvZ. Also TvZ is 0-2 for the curious.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 04:55 GMT
#64
On June 03 2012 13:54 MCXD wrote:
Protoss is currently 13-6 vs. Terran and Zerg in this Hybrid Proleague.


That's bad lol but I expected even worse.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 03 2012 04:56 GMT
#65
On June 03 2012 13:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:54 MCXD wrote:
Protoss is currently 13-6 vs. Terran and Zerg in this Hybrid Proleague.


That's bad lol but I expected even worse.


That is because we have had a lot of PvP.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 04:57:43
June 03 2012 04:57 GMT
#66
On June 03 2012 13:50 Highways wrote:
Protoss is so boring to watch.

One attack move and the game is over.


Yeah, because other Proleague SC2 games have been soooo good. I mean, only a few days ago I saw a TvT where one guy just walked across the map with marines and killed the other guy in the midgame, when he already had tanks out but no siege mode for whatever reason (IIRC he had plenty of time to get it but just didnt/got it late). Clearly, the BW pros aren't too great at SC2 yet so you're gonna see pretty bad games. Crank vs Freaky for how awesome PvZ can truly be
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 04:58:28
June 03 2012 04:57 GMT
#67
I'm still waiting for a Terran to go 111 vs Protoss. It's better than fast expand into loss. And it's legitimately difficult to hold if you don't know what you're doing, which describes most of these Kespa SC2 players.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 04:58 GMT
#68
Hoejja vs Mini next. Another ZvP >_<

figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 03 2012 04:59 GMT
#69
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
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If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 03 2012 05:00 GMT
#70
On June 03 2012 13:58 Talionis wrote:
Hoejja vs Mini next. Another ZvP >_<



Hoejja is protoss in SC2 .
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
June 03 2012 05:00 GMT
#71
Crowd looks so empty T_T
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
June 03 2012 05:01 GMT
#72
Half the audience is gone
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 05:01:51
June 03 2012 05:01 GMT
#73
On June 03 2012 13:57 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:50 Highways wrote:
Protoss is so boring to watch.

One attack move and the game is over.


Yeah, because other Proleague SC2 games have been soooo good. I mean, only a few days ago I saw a TvT where one guy just walked across the map with marines and killed the other guy in the midgame, when he already had tanks out but no siege mode for whatever reason (IIRC he had plenty of time to get it but just didnt/got it late). Clearly, the BW pros aren't too great at SC2 yet so you're gonna see pretty bad games. Crank vs Freaky for how awesome PvZ can truly be


The reason the Protosses look better is basically 2 fold. One these are some pretty good protoss maps but more importantly as a whole protoss sets tone for there matchups (yes there are some exceptions but work with me here). In PvZ zerg prepares for whatever protoss is doing and then reacts accordingly as well as in PvT but these guys arent at that level where they see it and go "okay I know what this is time to react properly"
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 03 2012 05:01 GMT
#74
On June 03 2012 14:00 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:58 Talionis wrote:
Hoejja vs Mini next. Another ZvP >_<



Hoejja is protoss in SC2 .

Why, hello there.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
flk0s
Profile Joined September 2010
54 Posts
June 03 2012 05:02 GMT
#75
On June 03 2012 12:20 Talionis wrote:
I feel bad for Lizzy...but why the hell would you play him first >_<


I thought it was actually a really good choice. Usually the teams have been playing their worst player last, in the hopes they don't have to play. But Lizzy is so bad, you know no matter who he plays against he will lose. So, by putting him first, you take his loss straight away from a good BW player, but in return your own BW player is matched against a much worse player in the third set, giving a much better chance of winning the whole thing.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 03 2012 05:04 GMT
#76
On June 03 2012 14:02 flk0s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:20 Talionis wrote:
I feel bad for Lizzy...but why the hell would you play him first >_<


I thought it was actually a really good choice. Usually the teams have been playing their worst player last, in the hopes they don't have to play. But Lizzy is so bad, you know no matter who he plays against he will lose. So, by putting him first, you take his loss straight away from a good BW player, but in return your own BW player is matched against a much worse player in the third set, giving a much better chance of winning the whole thing.


They might have also just asked Flash and Hydra what maps they wanted and they decided on not that map. I mean you are confident Flash will win and confident Lizzy will lose so let Hydra pick whatever map he wants.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 03 2012 05:06 GMT
#77
On June 03 2012 14:01 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:00 raga4ka wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:58 Talionis wrote:
Hoejja vs Mini next. Another ZvP >_<



Hoejja is protoss in SC2 .

Why, hello there.


Well at least i thought he was .
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
June 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#78
This is frustrating because I'd like more games but having another P win I don't think is very helpful to PL atm.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 03 2012 05:09 GMT
#79
LOL Are you serious, he didn't wall off properly, nor did he have Sentries.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 03 2012 05:09 GMT
#80
LOL nexus down
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
June 03 2012 05:09 GMT
#81
Walling off properly is too mainstream
I've got moves like Jagger
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 03 2012 05:09 GMT
#82
Cute spire
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 03 2012 05:10 GMT
#83
Oh yeah colossus definitely counters mutalisks.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
June 03 2012 05:10 GMT
#84
mini sacrificed his sc2 pvz for his bw pvz skills
Commentator
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
June 03 2012 05:11 GMT
#85
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 03 2012 05:11 GMT
#86
Lol, hoejja just balling over mini here. GG
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 03 2012 05:11 GMT
#87
Ye this is the way you get those broodwar fans enjoying Sc2 ...
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
June 03 2012 05:12 GMT
#88
Nice wall.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 03 2012 05:12 GMT
#89
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Errr, Effort is 2-1.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 03 2012 05:12 GMT
#90
Sad Mini

Poll: Recommend Set 5: Entombed Valley?

Yes (4)
 
44%

If you have time (3)
 
33%

No (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 5: Entombed Valley?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



And I guess I need to do these too

Poll: Recommend Set 6: Cloud Kingdom?

No (3)
 
50%

If you have time (2)
 
33%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 6: Cloud Kingdom?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Set 7: Antiga Shipyard?

Yes (4)
 
67%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

No (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 7: Antiga Shipyard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 03 2012 05:12 GMT
#91
On June 03 2012 14:12 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Errr, Effort is 2-1.


Keyword is "More than 2"
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#92
On June 03 2012 14:11 Lysanias wrote:
Ye this is the way you get those broodwar fans enjoying Sc2 ...

By showing them how to fail your wall on Protoss Valley ?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#93
Cool, Protoss loses in PvProleague!

Although I kinda wanted 7 games, though Hoejja winning in SC2 is nice.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#94
On June 03 2012 14:12 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Errr, Effort is 2-1.


"Win more than 2", he's played 3 games, but hasn't won 3.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 05:14:39
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#95
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Never mind more then 2 games , its probably because players alternate to much to play a lot of games .
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#96
On June 03 2012 14:12 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:12 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Errr, Effort is 2-1.


Keyword is "More than 2"


Oh shit, sorry. It's still early here :p
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
June 03 2012 05:14 GMT
#97
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.
Commentator
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
June 03 2012 05:14 GMT
#98
On June 03 2012 14:13 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:11 MCXD wrote:
Another fun fact, there has yet to be any KeSPA player win more than 2 proleague SC2 games. Mini would have been the first had he won here.


Lizzy won 2 games on the first day .


Yeah, but lost in all subsequent appearances. So not 3 wins yet.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 03 2012 05:15 GMT
#99
On June 03 2012 14:14 GTR wrote:
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.


Hoejja saves the day.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 05:15 GMT
#100
On June 03 2012 14:14 GTR wrote:
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.


Not Lizzy huh?
MMA: The true King of Wings
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 03 2012 05:15 GMT
#101
On June 03 2012 14:15 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:14 GTR wrote:
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.


Not Lizzy huh?


LIzzy already played BW today.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 03 2012 05:16 GMT
#102
On June 03 2012 14:15 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:14 GTR wrote:
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.


Not Lizzy huh?
Lizzy was obligated to play BW today (horribly, of course, saved by Flash+CH); so that he can play SC2 next match - and I'm guessing he'll get his 3rd SC2 win then.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 03 2012 05:16 GMT
#103
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 03 2012 05:17 GMT
#104
On June 03 2012 14:15 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:15 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:14 GTR wrote:
Phew, Game 6 was going to be (P)Stats vs (P)Shuttle.


Not Lizzy huh?


LIzzy already played BW today.


I'm not a bright monster.
MMA: The true King of Wings
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
June 03 2012 05:17 GMT
#105
On June 03 2012 14:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]

SKT near the bottom just looks strange to me. :S
Long live the King of Wings
DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
June 03 2012 05:17 GMT
#106
On June 03 2012 14:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]


SKT doing pretty well
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 03 2012 05:18 GMT
#107
On June 03 2012 14:17 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]

SKT near the bottom just looks strange to me. :S


I know right x_x
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 03 2012 05:18 GMT
#108
On June 03 2012 14:13 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:11 Lysanias wrote:
Ye this is the way you get those broodwar fans enjoying Sc2 ...

By showing them how to fail your wall on Protoss Valley ?


Oh ye that's they only problem currently, no i mean going from insane skilled BW matches to medicure play in Sc2.
Not blaming the players they are not at vault, just i don't think this is the way to get BW fans convinced of Sc2.
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
June 03 2012 05:19 GMT
#109
It kind of shows that P is the easiest race to play in SC2. Give it time, this was expected.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 05:21:53
June 03 2012 05:20 GMT
#110
So far (provided I didn't make any errors):

Terran vs. Protoss = 2-7
Terran vs. Zerg = 0-2
T Non Mirror Totals = 2-9

Protoss vs. Terran = 7-2
Protoss vs. Zerg = 6-5
P Non Mirror Totals = 13-7

Zerg vs. Terran = 2-0
Zerg vs. Protoss = 5-6
Z Non Mirror Totals = 7-6

# of PvPs = 11
# of TvTs = 6
# of ZvZs = 2
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
June 03 2012 05:21 GMT
#111
On June 03 2012 14:18 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:13 Otolia wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:11 Lysanias wrote:
Ye this is the way you get those broodwar fans enjoying Sc2 ...

By showing them how to fail your wall on Protoss Valley ?


Oh ye that's they only problem currently, no i mean going from insane skilled BW matches to medicure play in Sc2.
Not blaming the players they are not at vault, just i don't think this is the way to get BW fans convinced of Sc2.


Its too late for your rant now. Had the BW pros transitioned to SC2 during release, it would have been alot different but theres nothing to shortened that 2 year gap other than going through this "period". You should be glad that most BW pros think they can reach the GSL code A/S level within 6 months which MANY foreigners cant do. So patience.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 03 2012 05:21 GMT
#112
On June 03 2012 14:17 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]

SKT near the bottom just looks strange to me. :S

They still need to play 1 game, so current score doesn't really matter.
SKT can become R1 team if they will win next match 4-0.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 05:25 GMT
#113
Kespa teams need to hire more sc2 coaches asap. Like Ryu Won to Woongjin and Cezanne to Team 8.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 03 2012 05:27 GMT
#114
On June 03 2012 14:21 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:17 LimitSEA wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:59 figq wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:32 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 03 2012 13:29 figq wrote:
Don't worry, Sayle, it's easy to mix up third-rate teams like KT and SKT.

SKT is the third-rate team when compared to first-rate KT, amiright?
^_^ nah, just Woongjin fan using rare opportunity for trolling KT and SKT + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Don't worry. We're not that bad anymore

SKT on the other hand...

[image loading]

SKT near the bottom just looks strange to me. :S

They still need to play 1 game, so current score doesn't really matter.
SKT can become R1 team if they will win next match 4-0.


Against Khan with JangBi playing BW and Fantasy+Bisu playing SC2? I doubt they can go 4-0.

Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18624 Posts
June 03 2012 09:56 GMT
#115
4 protoss from STX, you serious? lol
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