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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 23:39:25
May 27 2012 23:38 GMT
#3241
On May 28 2012 08:34 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:22 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
[quote]

honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Because people are stupid as hell.
:/


Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?

Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.


and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....



Yes, like NA players at MLG lol


NA players do have a home turf advantage in the NA. The problem is when the skill gap is huge enough that the home turf advantage has no effect.

A lot of Korean Code S players do fall to NA/EU players in NA/EU tournaments that have no shot at beating them in the GSL. For example, Ganzi and Parting got rolled this tournament. They played bad. You think that has nothing to do with them playing in NA?
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
May 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3242
On May 28 2012 08:34 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote:
2 down? Not2worry.

Seriously Squirtle, don't you dare go down 3-0. Don't you dare quit on me. My starter pokemon is better than this.

All this pokemon talk recently...

brb downloading the ROM for pokemon blue. Damnit.


pfft,., getting my HUGE old gameboy with the original pokemon blue in it out from the box of memories..

got a flight coming up,., gonna have some pkay fun!!
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3243
On May 28 2012 08:38 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:37 Alryk wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:31 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:22 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
[quote]


Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Because people are stupid as hell.
:/


Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?

Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.


and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....



That's why they go to MLG, IPL, NASL and even the RedBull thingie on foreign soil, jetlagged and are still winning?


Stephano has to travel from Europe too you know... O.o


he's been in Arizona for the past week.


Yeah, but he's been training with EG all week. That's a whole new level of disadvantage compared to jetlag.
MMA: The true King of Wings
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3244
Is Bomber in Code-S next season?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3245
No, Bomber went 1-3 in U/D groups.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3246
On May 28 2012 08:38 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:36 Toadvine wrote:
Why Squirtle decided moving his WHOLE ARMY to the watchtower was a good idea, I don't know.

I've also found myself watching the whole tournament mostly muted (except the Husky solo cast, funnily enough). I honestly prefer casters to just do play-by-play with random tangents if they don't know their shit, because there's nothing more annoying than false hype and over-exaggeration of irrelevant crap. At this point, I prefer TB to Day9, at least the former doesn't pretend to know stuff.


You think Day9 doesn't know what he's talking about while analyzing?


Is this a serious question haha
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3247
On May 28 2012 08:39 zyzq wrote:
Is Bomber in Code-S next season?


nope, lost Up and Downs
Flash
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3248
On May 28 2012 08:37 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:31 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:22 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
[quote]
Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Because people are stupid as hell.
:/


Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?

Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.


and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....



That's why they go to MLG, IPL, NASL and even the RedBull thingie on foreign soil, jetlagged and are still winning?


Stephano has to travel from Europe too you know... O.o


I'm not denying Stephano's skills, yo. I'm just saying that wether GSL is in Korea or not - I actually think the koreans would still be dominating. Like they are dominating every foreign tournament. Very few foreignors are able to keep up. Kas, Grubby, Stephano, Ret, NaNiWa, ThorZaiN and Sheth are the only ones who have been able to keep up lately imo. (maybe DeMusliM aswell, that guy is alot better than he's getting credit for)
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#3249
On May 28 2012 08:39 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:34 Dosey wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote:
2 down? Not2worry.

Seriously Squirtle, don't you dare go down 3-0. Don't you dare quit on me. My starter pokemon is better than this.

All this pokemon talk recently...

brb downloading the ROM for pokemon blue. Damnit.


pfft,., getting my HUGE old gameboy with the original pokemon blue in it out from the box of memories..

got a flight coming up,., gonna have some pkay fun!!

hahaha those massive gameboys were so awesome. They doubled as a weapon when your siblings tried stealing it from you.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#3250
15 min no rush mmk?
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#3251
Civilzation is so fun, except when you get tricked by your allies
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
May 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#3252
On May 28 2012 08:38 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:36 Toadvine wrote:
Why Squirtle decided moving his WHOLE ARMY to the watchtower was a good idea, I don't know.

I've also found myself watching the whole tournament mostly muted (except the Husky solo cast, funnily enough). I honestly prefer casters to just do play-by-play with random tangents if they don't know their shit, because there's nothing more annoying than false hype and over-exaggeration of irrelevant crap. At this point, I prefer TB to Day9, at least the former doesn't pretend to know stuff.


You think Day9 doesn't know what he's talking about while analyzing?


Yep.

Or rather, I think most of what he says is either irrelevant or trivial. Like, yesterday he would make a point about how Thorzain has such good worker distribution between bases. Then the observer actually showed the bases and it was obvious Thorzain just got to optimal saturation on his main/nat and rallied every CC to his third. Day9 does stuff like this a lot, when he's not doing play by play.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#3253
On May 28 2012 08:35 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:34 Dosey wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote:
2 down? Not2worry.

Seriously Squirtle, don't you dare go down 3-0. Don't you dare quit on me. My starter pokemon is better than this.

All this pokemon talk recently...

brb downloading the ROM for pokemon blue. Damnit.


Pick squirtle its the best starter!

But bulbasaur is good against the first 2 gyms and lightning is not very effective. Then you just catch and abra and get an alakazam to faceroll
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Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3254
lol ghosts so gud
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3255
TvP late game is imbalanced I thought?
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3256
Now go beat MC!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3257
Bomber <3
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3258
On May 28 2012 08:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:34 Dosey wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote:
2 down? Not2worry.

Seriously Squirtle, don't you dare go down 3-0. Don't you dare quit on me. My starter pokemon is better than this.

All this pokemon talk recently...

brb downloading the ROM for pokemon blue. Damnit.


Pick squirtle its the best starter!

But bulbasaur is good against the first 2 gyms and lightning is not very effective. Then you just catch and abra and get an alakazam to faceroll


lowest attack and speed stats also weak to the first like 6 areas...
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3259
Bomber is looking poised to kill Squirtle.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#3260
Bomber is a motherfucking badass.
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